E-Bolt for the A-5

[xXblinkXegoXx]

is there ever gonna be an e bolt for the a5? that would be awsome if they came out with one, but i didnt think that they were gonna come out with one because the egrip is already out. thanks.

[Ares - II]

ur just as stumped as we are, if their is and word gets out theirs gunna be a e-bolt for A-5 people here will probably be the first to let you know.

But its not very likely, that they will come out with a e-bolt for A-5

So just sit tight be patient and somethin new will come.

[AgentOrange]

Does the e-grip not suffice? An easier, cheaper way to go electro a grip is, but than one can argue its not a 'true' electro.

[xXblinkXegoXx]

Does the e-grip not suffice? An easier, cheaper way to go electro a grip is, but than one can argue its not a 'true' electro.

lol. you kinda sound like yoda or something.:P

i would get the e grip, but my friends dad was having way too many problems with it adjusting the modes and stuff. are the e grips known to have problems?

[ace6160]

I wish they made a hundred dollar electric grip for the 98c. I know that I'm not dishin out $250 for an e-bolt.

If i had an a-5, I would definately buy an e-grip.

[Ares - II]

This may be a little off topic but,

Either way if you get the a-5 and e-grip or tippy 98c and e-bolt its about same amount of money

Stock New A-5 about $229.00
+
E-grip New about 119.00
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Total $350.00

Stock New Model 98c $139.00
+
E-bolt New about $229.00
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Total $ 370.00

About the same price wow give or take 20 bucks

You could probably find prices cheeper then that but i just used action village cause i was to lazy to look everywhere

So in the end they both about even out its just what YOU want.

refer to my earlier post about the answer to the origional question.

[chaosoffar]

http://www.paintballfanatics.com/product-exec/product_id/2857
I'd say there's about to be an egrip.... Wonder if that means the soon to be death of the 98?

[Ares - II]

wow nice find man, But i doubt it 98c will die quite yet, Maybe fewer will be sold and made, but you will still see plenty wherever you go.

Also if you run the math threw again youd come out$$$ 100.00 cheeper for the 98c with e-bolt then the A-5 with e-bolt. So then you would save more money on the 98c.

Unless you think a cyclone feed is worth $$$ 100.00

98c is still the most customizable gun on the market last i knew.

[p8ntba11dude89]

well, if the do come out with an e-bolt for the a-5, say bye bye to the quick strip feature (because of the hoses going to the ram)

[chinesebugrepel]

Originally posted by Ares - II
98c is still the most customizable gun on the market last i knew.
No, a cocker is, then spyder, then tippmann.

[Tippmann Owns]

The cyclone can cycle at over 22bps (TE proved it), for that kinda money youd be payin more than 125 for a hopper

[Ares - II]

Well its all about persona preferance isnt it.
your choice, your destiny.

[AgentOrange]

The ebolt for the A-5 won't deplete 98c sales. The bulk of people will never buy either ebolt. And like said, comes down to preferance. When it comes to tippmann, I'll stick with a 98c.

[chinesebugrepel]

Originally posted by Tippmann Owns
The cyclone can cycle at over 22bps (TE proved it), for that kinda money youd be payin more than 125 for a hopper
Halos have been proven to cycle over 40bps for a few shots, but they can't sustain that rof and I don't believe the cyclone can either.

[Erik3032]

i'd still rather get the e grip. There is an adjustable blade trigger out that only fits for the egrip. The e bolt is cool but just kind of over priced. Sure it has it's advantages but it's defenitely not worth 230 (according to the site that dude posted)

[ace6160]

Originally posted by Ares - II
This may be a little off topic but,
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Total $350.00

Stock New Model 98c $139.00
+
E-bolt New about $229.00
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Total $ 370.00



Plus a $120 hopper.

[chinesebugrepel]

Originally posted by Erik3032
i'd still rather get the e grip. There is an adjustable blade trigger out that only fits for the egrip. The e bolt is cool but just kind of over priced. Sure it has it's advantages but it's defenitely not worth 230 (according to the site that dude posted)
I do have to agree that the egrip a5 has a nicer feel to the trigger than the tippmann 98c ebolt does. However, by all accounts the bs ebolt is pretty superior to the tippmann one, and probably better than the egrip too.

[Tippmann Owns]

Halo bs can sustain about 22 bps. 40 bps is a burst rate that, as far as i know, hasnt been recorded. The cyclone is limited only by the gun it is on, the faster you shoot the faster it feeds. if someone got something like a worrblade onto an A-5 and did some internal mods the cyclone would easily be able to keep up, instead of a 40bps burst rate you could have 40bps sustainable rof, as a matter a fact there is no real burst rate for a cyclone, you just cant outrun it if its in good worlking condition

[kingofyourmom]

there is no e-bolt for the a-5. this was actually on the pbfanatics website the kid posted:

The E-Bolt Electronic System is available for the 98 Custom, and can be retro-fitted to the Model 98 by the Tippmann Proshop. Contact the Tippmann Proshop for more deatails.

i also looked in the 98 section and there was no e-bolt. this must mean that the e-bolt was intended to be in the 98 section, but misplaced. pbfanatics is gonna have some upset customers that own a-5's when they realize they got a 98 custom e-bolt kit....

[chinesebugrepel]

Originally posted by Tippmann Owns
Halo bs can sustain about 22 bps. 40 bps is a burst rate that, as far as i know, hasnt been recorded. The cyclone is limited only by the gun it is on, the faster you shoot the faster it feeds. if someone got something like a worrblade onto an A-5 and did some internal mods the cyclone would easily be able to keep up, instead of a 40bps burst rate you could have 40bps sustainable rof, as a matter a fact there is no real burst rate for a cyclone, you just cant outrun it if its in good worlking condition
That's perhaps kinda possible, but it also has not been tested so yu have nothing to back up this claim. All you have to base this on is tippmann's claim that the cyclone turns once for every shot. But the valve can only recharge so fast and air can only move so fast, which means the cyclone is mechanically capped at some speed (which hasn't been successfully tested). But if you're so confident that the cyclone is better than halo b, why do you think TE ever modded their a5s to accept halos?

[Coenen]

Originally posted by Tippmann Owns
The cyclone can cycle at over 22bps (TE proved it), for that kinda money youd be payin more than 125 for a hopper I've heard this song before, but no one answered the question I followed it with. Where did that information come from? There is no trigger system, save a seriously tuned RT, that'll even approach that speed for the A-5.

Even if that info is factual, the Cyclone is limited by the marker's air system, at that speed I would guess that unlesss you were giving the marker at least 900psi input you'd have of heck of a shootdown problem before you knew what was going on. Since shootdown means the marker is starving for air, that means the Cyclone is starving for air as well. A Cyclone without enouggh air isn't cycling fast enough or fully.

There will probably never be an E-bolt for the A-5, there just isn't much of a market for it. Once you got done with the cost of an E-bolt and A-5 you could've had a BKO or comparable mid-range gun.

[yakitori]

Ive heard that the cyclone gets kinda ruff on paintballs too when it starts feeding faster than 15bps anyway. even so, there is no way anyone will ever be shooting that fast w/ the a5. Ive never seen it or heard it.

[Tippmann Owns]

It is true that the A-5 would be rough on balls at a high rof, but that was with really only the first few generations. Tippmann made a free drop-in kit to fix this problem, and all newer A-5s are stamped with an A on the bottom of the cyclone, this indicates that the problem has been fixed. Yakitori,(correct me if im wrong) you yourself claim to be able to get up to 21 bps with an rt, lp flow hose and halo b, since we personally already confirmed that the internals on the two guns are nearly the same im sure that the A-5 could perform just as well. Im also pretty sure that being a factory sponsored team, TE could have some pretty crazy mods done to there guns. and coenen, i know that tippmanns arent particularly quick on there feet when it comes to recharging, but wouldnt n2/HPA pretty much fix that problem, or atleast make it capable of sustaining high rofs for a short period of time? as i said before, i doubt TE is shooting ordinary guns

this may sound like a very shaky basis of information, as a matter iof fact it does, but my local (and extremely knowledgeable) proshop owner supplied me with the information.

[yakitori]

I said that the lp hose on the RT will go to 19+bps and if not then it was a range. Besides, I took that off because it used hella gas and had trouble activating. I just use the stock RT hose now. :P

You can try hard this time, but Im not getting drawn into your arguement. Hahah :D but geez you sure are defensive about the a5 :P. so, just to please you, the a5 is the best marker on the market. :D. thats why I bought one. :P

peace
yak

[chinesebugrepel]

The point is that there really isn't reliable evidence that the cyclone can cycle as fast as a halo reliably or continuously. Even if it could, it's extremely impractical because of the type of modding/tuning you'd need for the gun to just be able to shoot at such speeds. Then, after setting your pressure extremely high, messing with lp and tuning the rt and doing who knows what else, you are victorious in proving that an a5 can shoot 22bps without shootdown and the cyclone can keep up. The viking owner beside you shrugs his shoulders and doesnt care because his gun can do the same thing except it's bone stock and still tourny legal.

[Coenen]

It has been proven time and time again that all myths regarding Tippmann Effect's markers being doctored up or having Timmy guts etc. are false. You can even go to PBN and talk to a couple of TE's players if you want real conformation on that. Anything that TE uses you can use.

As for the recharge rate of gases, Nitro helps, but does not fix, a shoot down problem, at high speed the marker will still starve for gas unless the marker is being given a higher than usual input pressure.

There is a hell of a lot of false info floating around out there. Often times it is hard to discern what is true from what is false. I'm sure if we cooked up a bogus claim about Tippmann suing everybody over pin valves and blowback markers we could make it the talk of quite a few forums before the truth overcame the rumor.

[chinesebugrepel]

Actually many people in this forum probaby have more upgraded markers than the majority of TE. Most of them are pretty close to stock and a few use ebolts (like 2 or something). Well, last I heard anyways.

[Tippmann Owns]

i dont really follow the tourneys, can TE really compete using near stock tippmanns?
i wasnt trying to drag u into the arguement yakitori, i just seemed to remember you saying that from one of our past arguements

[AgentOrange]

Well their 98s (all 98s, no a-5s now). There VERY upgraded, but upgrades anyone could do. Things such as really good nitro tanks, Halo B's, barrel kits, a good reg, things such as that. Thing is they have really good parts on them, but they are things anyone could get if they have the money.

[kingofyourmom]

Originally posted by kingofyourmom
there is no e-bolt for the a-5. this was actually on the pbfanatics website the kid posted:

The E-Bolt Electronic System is available for the 98 Custom, and can be retro-fitted to the Model 98 by the Tippmann Proshop. Contact the Tippmann Proshop for more deatails.

i also looked in the 98 section and there was no e-bolt. this must mean that the e-bolt was intended to be in the 98 section, but misplaced. pbfanatics is gonna have some upset customers that own a-5's when they realize they got a 98 custom e-bolt kit.... it seems no one payed attention to this so i thought i'd post it again

[Coenen]

We read, we saw, the thread developed beyond just the answer to the question, it tends to happen.