e-bay/3A paintball

[crazyone777]

Yes I'm Yelling
DO NOT BUY FROM 3A PAINTBALL ON E-BAY they have been kicked off e-bay 2 or 3 times b-4 under different names for shady parctices, massive neg feedback from customers, retaliatory feedback to customers
wrong items sent and no attempt to rectify, losing payments
and not shipping the item the list goes on and on and on
and yes I do have first hand expeience with them and it WILL be the worst aggrevation you will ever put yourself through if you buy from them

[bdpropain]

I wish this had been posted earlier. he co captain of my team is having issues with them now. Bought a 4 piece barrel kit from them at the end of april. they rec'd payment on the 4th of may. Have not shipped out his barrels yet. he just won a 10 piece, YESTERDAY, and they are *****ing about not receiving payment. He refuses to pay until they send his 4 piece, and I dont blame him.

[crazyone777]

dude tell your buddy he has my sincerest appologies and further more when he finally does get his barrels he's really gonna be:pissed: they are the absolute worst piece of garbage you will ever have the misfortune of screwing on your gun they're that cheaply made if you fall and bang your gun it's my opinion that the barrel will likely fold easier than
a mickey D's drink straw, paper thin! super soft metal you do the math, I took one look at the one I bought and disgustedly heaved it under the counter and basicly wrote the whole thing off and haven't even looked at it since
it took me roughly 5 weeks to get my barrel set but not before they slammed me on my feedback for filing a complaint , they're total lyin thievin cheatin lyin *******s
peddling knockoff junk and lyin about it, yeh and they lie too
they even lie about lyin

[paintballer42o]

4 words and 1 symbol:

3a = worst compony ever

[bdaniel08]

I wonder why they haven't been sued...

[reneirwolf878]

Same here, they should be taken to court by the people who've bene hurt by their faulty products.

[clown_13_2001]

Some people that play at the field I go to have 3a nitro tanks, and are very happy with them. But the barrels are just the opposite, very bad.

[crazyone777]

I'm sure some of their stuff probably is at least funtional no matter how cheaply made it is but the issue at hand is thier
misrepresentation of the products they sell making them seem like a super deal for the price entirely not so, in the case of 3a the old addage you get what you pay for comes to mind but in their case you aren't even getting that from them and thats when and if you do finally get it

[paintballer42o]

Originally posted by crazyone777
I'm sure some of their stuff probably is at least funtional no matter how cheaply made it is but the issue at hand is thier
misrepresentation of the products they sell making them seem like a super deal for the price entirely not so, in the case of 3a the old addage you get what you pay for comes to mind but in their case you aren't even getting that from them and thats when and if you do finally get it
agreed. I really think they shouldnt be a compony anymore. Theyre nitro tanks are fine, its just that theyre compony representation is horrible. Just, buy from other componies.

[autoload]

I'm glad I read ths thread. I see them spamming there stuff on eBay all over and was wondering how they were.

[Frownz]

i wish i would have read this post before i bought from them cuz i bought a 16 inch knock out barrel from them for my spyder and it took 3 weeks to get it. and i thought it waz a std bore size but its not its a .690 so now i have to buy new paint. it didnt say tha size so i figured it waz a std. bore. or maybe im wrong and that is std. but my paint i bought doesnt work:pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

[hobotroll89]

has anyone ever tried their guns? i see them all over ebay, and its starting to piss me off because whenever i try to do a decent search, 80% of it is 3a crap. how does ebay not know about this?

[crazyone777]

theres been one or two guys has bought their guns and did not have a very good experience with them JUNK! not to mention wrong gun

[plushdragon]

with ebay as long as what your selling is detailed on the web page.(barrel,marker,pod)and does not go agoasit ebays tos then they can sell stuff till there feedback goes to hell.can you get good deals on ebay..yes can you get burnt on ebay yes to that to.ebay not a store and there been a few lawsuits agist ebay to get nore rights for buyers if the seller skips out.

[hobotroll89]

wow dude, where did you learn to spell? that has honestly been the worst spelling ive ever seen on here, and i didnt understand half of your points

[CRJenkins13]

HAHAHA^^^

3a plain out blows. Although now their tanks are getting better, because they have (I think) Crossfire regs, or atleast my store got a shippment of those in, but still. I had a kid at my local field and he just bought a 4pc for his 98c and the threads were too long by like 1/2 an inch so the barrel wouldnt even screw in the marker...I was like hmmmmmm

[rock]

The people that sell th3e 3a stuff on ebay is not actually the 3a company. Its some person that made a deal with them and they order stuff then sell it so they both get some money. My friend has a 3a barrel and its sweet acurate as crap i dunno maby he got lucky. Theres also alot of 3a nitro tanks at my field that work just fine.

[crazyone777]

don't let aesthetics fool you, I have an empire barrel set and the pmi premium fits the 684 back perfect I tried like 30 or paintballs in it and they all fit the same I tried the same thing with the 3a .684 back and they rolled right thru with room to spare, now i'm not makin any accusations but .684 is still .684 dia and if it fits the empire set and don't drop thru then why does it on the 3a, i even tried a different 30 or so pmi premiums out of another bag thru the 3a set and the result was the same they rolled right thru the 684 back as they did with every back in the 3a set, I do own a bore micrometer and at some point will dig it out and actually measure the 3a backs to see exactly what they do measure, if you are unaware of what .684 means I'll tell you it means 684 thousanths of an inch thats a damned narrow margin for error so it would be safe to say if the paint fits an empire 684 back it should also fit the 3a and if it doesn't then it's not 684 like it is stamped
and therefore it is misrepresented and you didn't get what you paid for.
for the $120 they charge for the knock off set you could've
bought a time tested and proven, quality barrel like a Dye boomstick, that many tourny players can't all be wrong
there's alot of other mfgrs that also make comparibly priced barrels and sets that are 10 times the quality and performance of the 3a stuff, lets put it this way if 3a made an airplane would you fly in it?

[CRJenkins13]

Hell no I wouldn't fly in it...and I think your right that paint should have fit perfect in both .684 backs...

[bdpropain]

My friend got his kit, and it is very flimsy, glad he only paid 40 bucks....

[PB_Matty]

Well 3-a sure ain't contrifuting to the sport in a positive way. You get their ads in all the magazines with the scantily clad anime chics with double g's and that makes the parents of young paintall players get a misconception of the sport.

And they make their product obviously just for the profit rather than trying to at least make a good reputation. So they might make some money now but they are going to wind up damging paintballs reputation and their own.

[bdpropain]

OK, here is the update. Took the kit to our field, and did the blow thru test with Premium. Ended up taking the 690 back, which was fine, but after a few hundred shots, the balls would curve funny. The barrel was cleaned and all, but I dunno, and it feels really limsy, we'll se how it holds up in future uses.

[crazyone777]

yeah that was much the same impression I got too
I don't think that 3a manufactures their stuff with the highest standards or tolerances in mind in fact i think the only standards they observe is how cheaply they can make the products to facilitate maximum profit with about zero consideration being given to quality or their reputation
but their are a bunch of guys on here that'll tell you that the 3a stuff is the best stuff out there which only tells me that they aren't comparing it to anything that has been proven
to be a good performer where it counts in the field.
Which would explain why they have their sappers infiltrate these forums to fluff up 3a's stuff so that people will think it's way better than what it is or ever will be

[The Gargoyle]

I bought a Scuba Tank Air Tank Adapter from 3A via eBay.
I got it for $33.45 ($9.95 shipping included).
It was a great deal.

I asked for feedback and they said I had to Feedback them first.

Then I found out that the Nipple Fitting does not match my Tank Nipples. I have two. Crossfire & Center Flag.

3A will not respond to me anymore.

The fitting I need I can find at he Hardware Store for about $3.00. I still got a good deal, but 3 A does suck! I thought that they couldn't screw up this kind of adapter - I was wrong!

:D :pissed:

Item Title : 3A Paintball Scuba HPA-NITRO-AIR Fill Station
Item Number : 3678353079
Marketplace : eBay

Item Price : $23.50
Number of Items : 1
Shipping & Handling : $ 9.95
Insurance : $ 0.00
Tax : $ 0.00

Total Price : $33.45

[[RiP]Stinger]

U can take this as u will, but I own one of there guns. (actually 2 but one is my brothers) First, they def. do have some quality control issues. And there support people aren't the best(depending on who u talk to). First, discrepancies in there listings. They do list that the velocity has a lock, it doesn't. And they also list adjustable dip switch, which it doesn't have. It only has the push button switch like the imagine. Second, the quality control issues. They need to tighten their tolerances. My gun has a few problems. First the feed neck is glued in(and not very good) instead of like the spyders. It has a screw on feed neck (like cockers, i think). With 3 o -rings in it to help hold the hopper tight. Well, it holds it a little to tight. After about the third time of messing with it, the glue gave away and the feed neck came off. Which lead me to find that there are burrs in the breech that chewed the sh*t out of my bolt. Those are the bad things.
On to the good(yes there is some). The gun is good looking and good shooting if u get one from a good batch. My brothers gun, shoots flawlessly. It hasn't even left wear marks on the bolt. It is a good fit. It shoots fast, fairly accurate(for a stock barrel) and is rather strong(not like a tippmann, but not many are).
Customer service. I think this company has "grown up" a little. They will take care of you, if u talk to the right people. You can either get onto their forum and private message the admin SARGOSSO, or email info@3a-paintball.com
I have sent my gun back for replacement(at no charge to me). They have had it for a week(5 working days). Not unreasonable to me. When I get it back I will look at it very closely and make sure it is right. Then I'll post back.

Overall I am satisfied for the most part with my dealings with 3A. Both guns that I have ordered have been in my hands, no longer than 5 days after winning the auction on ebay. And yes it is them selling them on ebay, not some "guy" that is selling them for the company.

PS, I know what some of u are thinking. I do not work and/or affiliated with 3A in anyway.

[hobotroll89]

am i the only one that thinks it necessary to email 3a about their disgusting logos? well, thats what my parents made me do when they saw a 3a ad in my magazine. and im kindve starting to agree. their logos are very detrimental to paintball in my opinion, kindve like kids driving by and shooting cars. what kind of parent is going to let kids try the game out when theres an ad with near pornographic images? theres my $.02

[bdaniel08]

Originally posted by hobotroll89
am i the only one that thinks it necessary to email 3a about their disgusting logos? well, thats what my parents made me do when they saw a 3a ad in my magazine. and im kindve starting to agree. their logos are very detrimental to paintball in my opinion, kindve like kids driving by and shooting cars. what kind of parent is going to let kids try the game out when theres an ad with near pornographic images? theres my $.02

I agree all the way with you there.:agree:

You could say that their crap is "descent" and looks "cool" but you definatley aren't getting your moneys worth, even if it seems like it because you are spending about $20 less. Their stuff may seem well built but as everyone who I have read about/ talked to have complained about something missing, their porno anime, their service, their tanks, ect. Their images are almost as bad as paintball vandilism. I started playing paintball when I was 11. Do you think that an average parent would let an 11 year old play paintball after they see a near porn cartoon? I don't think so. They are just a sick company and they CAN be sued for their cartoons believe it or not... I think.

[[RiP]Stinger]

Not all there tanks have this so called anime "porn". They have at least another dozen designs. If you or your parents don't want u to have them, don't get them. It's the same option u have when on the internet. You can either search for and see porn or not. They are not forcing anyone to buy thier products.

[been_splat]

You all need to take a look at my post in the Other Markers Forum.

I am in the discussion phase with an attorney to file a fraud suit against them.

As for: 3a-wholesale on ebay.

3a Paintball is a DBA (Doing Business As) name (which is legal it allows a company to be identified in the public under a few different names but pay's tax's as a singular entity) for 02 Sports Inc.

Please pardon the typo's. Just talking about 3A makes my blood boil.

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=227366

[crazyone777]

the thing that absolutely amazes me to no end is that with all the bad press 3a is getting in this and other forums such as been splats there's always some dufus who'll stand there and argue uphill and down that 3a stuff is the best they've seen and how dare you criticize them and in the same paragraph go on to say that they had to fix this that and the other thing and in most of the positive responses about 3a the buzz words that indicate poor quality are almost always in their responses

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

Originally posted by crazyone777
the thing that absolutely amazes me to no end is that with all the bad press 3a is getting in this and other forums such as been splats there's always some dufus who'll stand there and argue uphill and down that 3a stuff is the best they've seen and how dare you criticize them and in the same paragraph go on to say that they had to fix this that and the other thing and in most of the positive responses about 3a the buzz words that indicate poor quality are almost always in their responses Its probably their company reps anyway.

[ffej]

Ok, so i hear there barrles and customer service and stuff is ****.

But i see there tanks on canadianpaintball.com for $200, the cheapest tank there.

Are thye any good at all?

[ffej]

Ok, so i hear there barrles and customer service and stuff is ****.

But i see there tanks on canadianpaintball.com for $200, the cheapest tank there, except for a coupel center flag tanks.

Are they any good at all?

[been_splat]

Stay away from them. Stay away from the tanks, guns, everything.

They are a chep company that would rather swindle you for inferor products then give you quality, it's so bad they have to dress it up with near nude, cartoon women on their tanks, and covers.

[hobotroll89]

^^word^^ no reputable company will sell them, wonder why you can only find their **** on ebay and a barely known store? cuz no one would want it

[been_splat]

Actually their parent company is o2 Sports Inc. Not sure if they are listed or not..

[Spyderer]

Yah, 3A is *** and they should have plungers stuck up their A**'s. Although yall are complaining about the graphics on their tanks, i dont see anything wrong with looking over at another players tank and seeing a half-naked lady every once in a while.



3A= :grouphug: :atten:

[crazyone777]

02 sports is another one thats been all over ebay selling
little known stuff thats not real high quality

[Bramge_Dained]

Just one word in the listing of their stupid electro gun sums up their intelligence and knowledge of paintball as a whole,
"The VL-200 is the best loader on the maked"

[Ebonclaw]

God created 3A so BE would have something to laugh at.

[reneirwolf878]

You don't post much anymore ebon, but when you do, damn it's good!

[Yo_987]

where's their warehouse? it would be funny if someone went in and busted 'em. they'd be like :eek:

[coolrazer]

i bought a 3a drop off ebay, works fine for me

[Master-Duo]

Thanks for the warning!

Ill keep that in mind when i search for my autococker and other stuff now :)

[Yo_987]

Originally posted by coolrazer
i bought a 3a drop off ebay, works fine for me

I'm sure it does--i mean, not much can go wrong with drop forwards, those don't need to be really precise. But BARRELS and GUNS do.

[spyder freek]

i wana buy a drop.....but....i wana get it also not just pay for it...ya know?

[Kullervo]

I own a 3A HPA tank.
Aside from taking over a month and a few calls complaining. Having to send it in for repairs 2 times before it would hold air.
It has been a fairly consistant air tank.
All it is though is a centerflag bottle with a 3a logo engraved on the reg. No cartoon stuff or anything.

And no I wouldn't order from them even before reading this.
If I have to remind a company of how long I have been waiting for something then they shouldn't be getting my buiseness.

[FrontMan1122]

I own a 3a Tank, The tank is not the greatest, and neither are the people... first of all they sent the wrong size... and then i had problems with it and they said its not our fault, you mistreated it, well i treated it very well... and the tnak leaks a little and you dont get the amout of shots out of it as u should, i have a 92cu 4500psi and i get 1400 shots maby?
but the tank isnt that bad the staff is though and the barrels suck my friend owns one

[crazyone777]

yeah they are real good at administering their tail light warantee.
once they get your money it's their program and they probably think if they make you wait long enough to get your stuff you'll be so relieved to get it you'll overlook the fact that it's crap.
If I were a betting man I'd be willing to bet the number of
:pissed: customers is far larger than the satisfied ones
me personally I'd like to mail the president of 3A a dozen pissed off skunks with special delivery instructions for the ups guy to shake the hell outta the box prior to delivery
:D

[jubei8d]

:) i got a tank and drop forward from them. came in 5 days and all works well. it sounds like i may have been one of the lucky ones

[Kullervo]

i am pretty sure you got it from a different company.
if not then i think your the only lucky one.:D

[PCW Admin]

I looked up 3a and o2 sports on the better buisness beuro, heres the report:

3A Paintball/o2 Sports Inc.
193 West Orangethorpe Avenue, #100
Placentia CA 92870

Business Started: [Not Available]
File Open Date: 06/23/04
Last Report Date: 06/23/04
Principal Contact: Unknown.

Phone: (714) 993-0078
Fax: Not Available
Email: Not Available
Web Address: Not Available

Bureau ID: 13212040




Nature of Business
This company's business is providing the sales of paintball equiptment.

Bureau File Experience

The Better Business Bureau does not have sufficient background information to issue a complete report on this firm.

The information we need to issue a complete report generally includes a clear understanding of the nature of the business or offer; the length of time the company has been in business; and some information on its principals.


Without this basic information, we also cannot determine and report whether the company's business record is satisfactory or unsatisfactory.


Our complaint history for this company shows that this business has a clear record. To date, no customer complaints have come to our attention.


A Better Business Bureau report is based on our file information and experience with an individual company over the past three years.


The Better Business Bureau does not endorse, recommend, or disapprove of any company, product, or service.


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Given how they have evaded complaints by hiding their real identity, I think we should all send complaints to the bbb at once. If you want to spend five minutes with a chance of getting money back/other help then go to this link:
http://complaints.bbb.org/Welcome.asp

hey look, its 3a: :pinocch:

[PCW Admin]

ps:

please no paintballing of 193 West Orangethorpe Avenue, #100, Placentia CA 92870. As tempting as it may be to send twenty teams to attack their wharehouse you have to remember that plain paint buckets work allot better than paintballs, especially when you drop in a cube of dry ice
:badboy:

no, really....

[The Gargoyle]

Okay you guys ....

Here you go ..

O2Sports
193 W Orangethorpe Avenue
Palcentia, California 92870

714-579-3696 Andrew
714-579-1979 Fax

Here is my story ...
I bought a Scuba Fill Adapter from 3A-Paintball on eBay
It was May 20th and I paid $33.45 (23.50 bid, 9.95 shipping)
I received the item around June 6th.
The Female Quick Disconnect attachment was toooooo
small for my 47ci 3000 Centerflag & Crossfire tanks.
I complained and it took a week for them to figure out what I was talking about. Andrew was nice about it and sent me a smaller Male Nipple Fitting. I wanted a larger Female Quick Disconnect Fitting. He said that he would send me another Male Nipple Fitting. I finally got everything resolved (not to my satisfaction) on July 15th.

I really don't think they understood my problem. I wanted a Larger Female Quick Disconnect Fitting to fit my tanks. Not two smaller Male Nipple Fittings that I had to exchange out on tanks. But Andrew was nice and did try!

So, I do have what I was after after a few modifications.
I did not get a review towards my eBay account (feedback)
to aid in my credibility on eBay (their policy ids that you have to give them feedback first and they will reciprorcate)

I'm glad I did not buy a gun from them ....
Anyone want to buy a nipple??

LOL!

:laugh:

[Rhis]

I have a 3A HPA tank and it works great. Since it was at least $60 cheaper than one from the cheapest competitor and is basically a Luxfer tank with a Centerflag reg I think it was a great deal.

I haven't had any problems with it at all.

[8ball09]

i buy stuff from them i just got a barrel from them it is just find and i got it from ebay and there are still on ebay as 3A so you dont no what you are talking about.:pissed:

[paintreliever]

maybe cause ur thier only person who buys **** from them any more.................................just a thought :crazy:

[8ball09]

no because i know alot of people who buy from them:devil:

[Deathspod]

I sued them. won 145$ and used it to buy a victor and other crap.

[FAILURE131]

Originally posted by 8ball09
no because i know alot of people who buy from them:devil:

Was that :devil: really necessary? Anyways, GJ Death on your victory. I remeber I read someone sueing them for stuff not on the gun, that was listed on the instruction manual. Was that you?

[zackt06]

Originally posted by PCW Admin
ps:

please no paintballing of 193 West Orangethorpe Avenue, #100, Placentia CA 92870. As tempting as it may be to send twenty teams to attack their wharehouse you have to remember that plain paint buckets work allot better than paintballs, especially when you drop in a cube of dry ice
:badboy:

no, really....


lol i live 10 mins away!! maybe ill take your idea and a lil of my own touch (pee on the owner maybe). plus cant paintball the store and make all paintballers look like hoodlums, give a bad rep to paintball, just act like an angry gangster doin some messed up grafiti.

[Turd_Burd]

I was actually thinking about buying a 3A tank when i got my Omen a few months back,thankfully i got a Crossfire 68/4500 and im gald I did. Crossfire reg or not 3A still needs to go the way of the Dodo,their biggest market is 12 year olds who see their adds in APG or some other magazine and think the girls on the tanks are "f'in awesome dude!"

[misnblu]

I guess I'm one of the few satisfied customer that has bought from 3a from E-bay.
Our team bid on their fill station for scuba tanks and got the fill station on time, in a hurry and had no problem with 3a or the product at all.
Sorry for all of the bad reports but I guess we were lucky.
Misnblu

[Turd_Burd]

Originally posted by misnblu
I guess I'm one of the few satisfied customer that has bought from 3a from E-bay.
Our team bid on their fill station for scuba tanks and got the fill station on time, in a hurry and had no problem with 3a or the product at all.
Sorry for all of the bad reports but I guess we were lucky.
Misnblu
Well one of my teammates brothers got a 3A tank (because of the girls :D ) and he hasn't had any problems...yet. Its like for every person that has no problems with 3A there's 10 more that did.

[crazyone777]

Lemme ask ya on ur fill station did the quick disconnect fit ur fill nipples ok? the one I bought before I opened my own store
fit like ****e and I had to replace the quick disconnect to make it work

[The Gargoyle]

No, they did not work.
I found out (after I posted my last response) that the nipples did not have a "Back Check" inside.
They became useless.
I had to buy a nipple replacement with a back check ($15.00).
I did not even want to approach 3 A anymore.
I just was going to chalk it up to experience.

"Now You Know the Rest of the Story"

:pissed:

[misnblu]

Lemme ask ya on ur fill station did the quick disconnect fit ur fill nipples ok? the one I bought before I opened my own store
fit like ****e and I had to replace the quick disconnect to make it work
Never had any problem with the product.
We use it almost every day and never a problem with filling the tanks.
I guess we're one of the lucky few then. :eek: :D
Misnblu
Thanks for the feedback on the 3a company though, this will make me think twice about purchasing again, especially when we have another scuba tank on the way for the team and need another fill station. :| ;)

[VooDooAddict]

Just ordered a cheepo 47/3000 tank from them for dryfire tests and backup. It apeared to be a Centerflag tank. (All my other tanks are Centerflag or old Air Americas)

I can't tell you how many times I've missed a game because the line at the fill station was too long.

This way I can toss on the little tank and keep playing till everyone takes a break ... then go back and fill up all my tanks.

Also have a friend who's just now getting into the sport. When he gets a marker I plan on selling the tank to him for $50 so that he can use HPA. He doesn't shoot that much paint per game either ... real casual player ... so a 47/3000 should do him just fine for now. And prevent him from ever needing to experience CO2 and all it's frustrations with freezing over equiptment and cold weather play.

[SgtPepper]

Originally posted by FrontMan1122
I own a 3a Tank, The tank is not the greatest, and neither are the people... first of all they sent the wrong size... and then i had problems with it and they said its not our fault, you mistreated it, well i treated it very well... and the tnak leaks a little and you dont get the amout of shots out of it as u should, i have a 92cu 4500psi and i get 1400 shots maby?
but the tank isnt that bad the staff is though and the barrels suck my friend owns one

i really hate to argue with you here b\c i hate 3apaintball--they sold me the same crap fill station they sell everyone which ends up causing more grief and trouble than the savings are worth...

however--1400 shots on a 92ci 4.5k psi tank is about right...
rule of thumb is Size X 10 for 3kpsi and Size X 15 for 4500