View Full Version : will BKO 04 run of co2 without a prob?
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 01:44 PM
I forgot where, but someone told me that the BKO 04 runs on co2 without any problems. Is this true? Cuz if i get one i wont me able to get nitro for a while. I think he said something about the guages being lowered to it runs on co2.
And i was also wondering if BKO's have eyes and if they work good on dark paint. And the rate of fire on semi-auto. thanks :)
lucky7
05-27-2004, 01:58 PM
get your co2 tank anti siphoned and buy a FEMALE palmer stabilizer. then you can run it on co2.... I wouldn't run it on co2 stock though, whoever told you that you could is wrong.
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by lucky7
get your co2 tank anti siphoned and buy a FEMALE palmer stabilizer. then you can run it on co2.... I wouldn't run it on co2 stock though, whoever told you that you could is wrong.
Just curious, but why do you suggest a female? Just for the sake of double regging? Anyways...if you dont want to double reg, go with just the male. Either will work fine,but you will have to shell out some moneey to run off of CO2.
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 02:19 PM
mabe ill just get nitro... those things are like 65$. mabe ill just go nitro.
And i was also wondering if BKO's have eyes and if they work good on dark paint. And the rate of fire on semi-auto
lucky7
05-27-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
Just curious, but why do you suggest a female? Just for the sake of double regging? Anyways...if you dont want to double reg, go with just the male. Either will work fine,but you will have to shell out some moneey to run off of CO2.
yeah, a double regged co2 setup works pretty well, thats the way i have my cocker set up. The female basically does the "dirty work" with the co2, and the male HPR regulates it to a pretty consistent power source...you just have to make sure you set the female palmer to at least twice what you have the male HPR set at.
gomster
05-27-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
Just curious, but why do you suggest a female? Just for the sake of double regging? Anyways...if you dont want to double reg, go with just the male. Either will work fine,but you will have to shell out some moneey to run off of CO2. It's not really "double regging" if you think about it, the Female Palmer's Stabilizer takes on the role of the tank regulator.
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 02:24 PM
BKOs do not have eyes stock. You can get eyes, its called PDS. ICD does it for you, it is a charge of 165$.
Nitro would be better then c02 with stabs anyway, so just get a nitro tank.
BKOs are mechanically capped at 18bps. The 4 way solenoid should be coming out sometime which will uncap the BKO.
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
mabe ill just get nitro... those things are like 65$. mabe ill just go nitro.
And i was also wondering if BKO's have eyes and if they work good on dark paint. And the rate of fire on semi-auto
For eyes, you can get PDS, but you have to send it in to ICD for $160. You can get some mech mods though, check the FAQ for more info and prices on them. And yes, PDS is fine with dark paint.
lucky7
05-27-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
mabe ill just get nitro... those things are like 65$. mabe ill just go nitro. good choice, the only reson i use co2 is becase I can't get HPA filled anymore.
And i was also wondering if BKO's have eyes and if they work good on dark paint. And the rate of fire on semi-auto no they don't have eyes stock, but if you did have eyes put on later on (PDS from ICD) then they would work good with dark paint, PDS is a very good eye
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 02:25 PM
OMFG we did it again! 3 posts at the same time!
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
OMFG we did it again! 3 posts at the same time!
Smart minds think alike (and apparently at the same speed).
[Infusion]BigC
05-27-2004, 02:27 PM
About the eyes, the ICD electronic anti-chop is PDS.
It's a break beam system (as opposed to optical, like SP Vision Eye) so it will be totally unaffected by the color of your paint shell.
BKOs do not come with PDS stock, but you can send ICD your BKO and have PDS installed for something like $125 I believe.
Edit: DRN YOU GUYS! Beat me to it! :P
lucky7
05-27-2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
OMFG we did it again! 3 posts at the same time!
weird :eek:
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC
About the eyes, the ICD electronic anti-chop is PDS.
It's a break beam system (as opposed to optical, like SP Vision Eye) so it will be totally unaffected by the color of your paint shell.
BKOs do not come with PDS stock, but you can send ICD your BKO and have PDS installed for something like $125 I believe.
The other kind of eye is called reflective not optical.
BTW you guys posted 3 posts at the same time again
what is going on :eyes:
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC
BKOs do not come with PDS stock, but you can send ICD your BKO and have PDS installed for something like $125 I believe.
Edit: DRN YOU GUYS! Beat me to it! :P
Infusion, I believe you mean SP Vision is reflective.
And PDS is like 125 on bushies, 160-165 on BKO's.
Edit-Frick! JB beat me to it now. OMG this is kinda weird.
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
Infusion, I believe you mean SP Vision is reflective.
And PDS is like 125 on bushies, 160-165 on BKO's.
Edit-Frick! JB beat me to it now. OMG this is kinda weird.
It's 165$ flat, I would now I payed for it last friday :D
lucky7
05-27-2004, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
BTW you guys posted 3 posts at the same time again
what is going on :eyes:
I dunno man, maybe I'm just magical, and this thread is moving like a friggin chat room....
gomster
05-27-2004, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
BKOs are mechanically capped at 18bps. The 4 way solenoid should be coming out sometime which will uncap the BKO. More like 20bps-22bps.
That is just a rumor JB, it is one big giant lie made by ICD! I am telling you, they just want us to get our (BKO owners) hopes up so they can smash them into little bitty bite size pieces.
Originally posted by lucky7
and this thread is moving like a friggin chat room.... More like every thread in this forum. :laugh:
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 02:33 PM
OK, JB and lucky, leave the forums for an hour. Too many posters on now. Then you can come back, and me and Infusion will leave for a while. It evens it out.
gomster
05-27-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
OK, JB and lucky, leave the forums for an hour. Too many posters on now. Then you can come back, and me and Infusion will leave for a while. It evens it out. What about me, boss?
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
OK, JB and lucky, leave the forums for an hour. Too many posters on now. Then you can come back, and me and Infusion will leave for a while. It evens it out.
...or you can just leave the forum forever :laugh:
gomster
05-27-2004, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
...or you can just leave the forum forever :laugh: ...And you can just die forever :laugh:
J/K!!!
lucky7
05-27-2004, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
OK, JB and lucky, leave the forums for an hour.
what?! thats like telling a crack head to sit back and stare at a pipe for an hour, can't be done :laugh:
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 02:37 PM
Gomster-Stay on as backup the whole time
JB-Go screw yourself, you guys need me.
Gomster-Well when people die, they're usually dead forever anyways:P .
Lucky-LMAO:laugh: .
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
Gomster-Stay on as backup the whole time
JB-Go screw yourself, you guys need me.
Gomster-Well when people die, they're usually dead forever anyways:P .
Lucky-LMAO:laugh: .
I was just kidding RainTreeBoy, do you hate me? :(
gomster
05-27-2004, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
Do you hate me? :( We all hate you! Now, shut up.
Once again, J/K!!!!
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
Gomster-Stay on as backup the whole time SIR, YES, SIR!!! :ninja:
JB-Go screw yourself, you guys need me. ( :laugh: )
Gomster-Well when people die, they're usually dead forever anyways:P . Err, yes, well I sort of forgot about that little fact.
Lucky-LMAO:laugh: . ( :laugh: )
lucky7
05-27-2004, 02:46 PM
heh, the creator of this thread is probably sitting there wondering what's goin on...
and as for JB, i don't hate you.......yet ;)
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
I was just kidding RainTreeBoy, do you hate me? :(
I know your kidding JB, your my homeboy. This is kind of random, but thats a reason I like staying here at the ICD forums, we all are cool and have similar views. There usually isnt a random person running around arguing with peoples point of view (annoying kind of arguing, not an actual arguement). Plus, since ICD is a pretty small company, all of us are pretty close knit, so its all cool here. I dont think theres one person who comes to the ICD forums who I dislike.
Your probably right lucky. I think a lot of people who come to these forums dont really understand us. We're so...random. But we get the job done.
gomster
05-27-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by lucky7
heh, the creator of this thread is probably sitting there wondering what's goin on...
No, he is probably like: GET THE F:censored: OUT OF MY THREAD, SPAMMERS!!!!!!11!!1!!
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
I dont think theres one person who comes to the ICD forums who I dislike. Well I dislike you. Humph :grumpy:
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
I know your kidding JB, your my homeboy. This is kind of random, but thats a reason I like staying here at the ICD forums, we all are cool and have similar views. There usually isnt a random person running around arguing with peoples point of view (annoying kind of arguing, not an actual arguement). Plus, since ICD is a pretty small company, all of us are pretty close knit, so its all cool here. I dont think theres one person who comes to the ICD forums who I dislike.
Your probably right lucky. I think a lot of people who come to these forums dont really understand us. We're so...random. But we get the job done.
We have people who know tons of ICD stuff in here, as you call them RainTreeBoy "ICD Guru's" I like to answer the persons question first..and then spam!
gomster
05-27-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
We have people who know tons of ICD stuff in here, as you call them RainTreeBoy "ICD Guru's" I like to answer the persons question first..and then spam! That's a good motto... Answer question first, then SPAM!
lucky7
05-27-2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by gomster
That's a good motto... Answer question first, then SPAM!
heh, REALLY good motto, sigged!
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 02:57 PM
Dident think i would get so many replies with only 3 questions.:eyes:
Ok whats the difference between a BKO and a bushmaster? Whats better, more expensive, better deal, ext...?
gomster
05-27-2004, 02:59 PM
Pretty much the solenoid/manifold and ram, that is about it.
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 03:00 PM
Bushy 4-way noid, KO 2-way noid. Bushy=easier Ram dissassembly. Search, Stickes, Done.
lucky7
05-27-2004, 03:00 PM
yeah and bushy come can come with PDS and fade anno's
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
Bushy 4-way noid, KO 2-way noid. Bushy=easier Ram dissassembly. Search, Stickes, Done. I win... AGAIN!!!!
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 03:03 PM
WOW! this thread is hot. 3 posts in like 2 minutes...:) Do whats the price difference? what do you think is a better deal? What is ram and how does it work?
(p.s- im new to PB and this high tech stuff. who would have thaught that PB guns could have these stuff on them:D )
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:05 PM
About $200.00 price difference.
The BKO ram uses a spring to return the ram shaft and hammer, unlike the B2K which uses air to return the ram shaft and hammer.
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 03:06 PM
So which is better? And what are the prices around now? have they droped?
lucky7
05-27-2004, 03:08 PM
b2k's can shoot faster, and some think thier smoother ( I didn't notice a difference actually).....and like i said PDS and cool looking anno's are an option...if that doesn't impress you, just get a bko, they are great markers too.
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:08 PM
The B2K of course, you silly goose.
$575.00 for a B2K4 with PDS. $450 for a B2K4 without PDS. $325.00 for a 2K4 Xtreme BKO.
No, the prices have not dropped, in fact, they have increased do to Smart Parts Law Suit against ICD.
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 03:09 PM
Actually prices have increased in the past year due to SP :pissed:
You guys forgot one of the biggest difference between a BKO and a Buhsy. A BKO has a volumizer...I WIN :D
A bushmaster would be your best choice between the two if you have the money. PDS is pretty much a requirement now a days. Both are really nice guns.
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
You guys forgot one of the biggest difference between a BKO and a Buhsy. A BKO has a volumizer...I WIN :d We are talking about the latest models, doy! :P
lucky7
05-27-2004, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
A BKO has a volumizer...I WIN :D
not on the 04's! i win!
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 03:12 PM
Gomster whats a volumizer?
im probably going with the BKO. cheaper and i can buy that tank with the saved money.
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by lucky7
not on the 04's! i win! You already lost, due to the fact that I posted before you! :P :laugh: So... I WIN!!!!!
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
Gomster whats a volumizer?
im probably going with the BKO. cheaper and i can buy that tank with the saved money. It is a air chamber that you screw into the gun and is located under the barrel (in most cases) that holds pre regulated air (in a BKO's case).
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by gomster
It is a air chamber that you screw into the gun and is located under the barrel (in most cases) that holds pre regulated air (in a BKO's case).
err.... if you could put pre regulated air in lame terms? lol
and i think were only 56 posts away from the spam world record. :laugh:
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 03:18 PM
A volumizer pretty much allows you to have more air inside of your gun at one time.
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
err.... if you could put pre regulated air in lame terms? lol
and i think were only 56 posts away from the spam world record. :laugh: A regulator regulates the air pressure to keep the air pressure at the same consistency... Ummm, I am not sure how else to put it, I hope you understood that.
Lol, I bet we already broke that record.
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
A volumizer pretty much allows you to have more air inside of your gun at one time.
ok thanks. THANK YOU EVERYONE! i know if i think of anything else u guys will be there.:D
and gomster, YOUR THE ICD MASTER! THANKS!
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
and gomster, YOUR THE ICD MASTER! THANKS!
HA! LMAO:laugh:!
No j/p, gomster is a knowlegeable person as well as most other people at the ICD forum, we're all here to help you. Just look at all the stickies before you ask more questions, or search, it makes it easier on all of us.
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
and gomster, YOUR THE ICD MASTER! THANKS! Wow, thanks, you made my day! But really, these guys deserve just as much credit as I do.
SOOOOOOOO sigged!
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
ok thanks. THANK YOU EVERYONE! i know if i think of anything else u guys will be there.:D
and gomster, YOUR THE ICD MASTER! THANKS!
you can tell this kid is new, gomster, icd master two phrases that should never go together...j/k
OK AND TO CLEAR THIS UP: IMPYA IS THE TRUE ICD MASTER, DON'T FORGET ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS ON SOME BEACH IN ITALY WITH HOT GIRLS AND HE'S CHECKING OUT THE GUYS, DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE TO FORGET ABOUT HIM
PS YODA IS A ICD MASTER TOO
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
you can tell this kid is new, gomster, icd master two phrases that should never go together...j/k
OK AND TO CLEAR THIS UP: IMPYA IS THE TRUE ICD MASTER, DON'T FORGET ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS ON SOME BEACH IN ITALY WITH HOT GIRLS AND HE'S CHECKING OUT THE GUYS, DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE TO FORGET ABOUT HIM
PS YODA IS A ICD MASTER TOO :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 03:28 PM
Hay thats my first sigg:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
YAY!
oh and i more thingy, I SWEAR ITS THE LAST ONE!, does the stock BKO extreme 04 come with the line thingimigiger there the air flows thrugh? you know the thingy thats attached to the drop.:eyes: ok mabe its me or do i sound like im lost.:eyes:
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
you can tell this kid is new, gomster, icd master two phrases that should never go together...j/k
OK AND TO CLEAR THIS UP: IMPYA IS THE TRUE ICD MASTER, DON'T FORGET ABOUT HIM BECAUSE HE IS ON SOME BEACH IN ITALY WITH HOT GIRLS AND HE'S CHECKING OUT THE GUYS, DOESNT MEAN WE HAVE TO FORGET ABOUT HIM
PS YODA IS A ICD MASTER TOO
LMAO. Thats imp for ya. Yeah, really though, some true ICD masters are Imp and yoda, as well as others here (<3 Flaco). But seriously, most guys here can answer your questions, so dont hesitate to ask as long as it hasnt been asked hundreds of times before. In all serousness, if you read the FAQ and stuff, we will respect you much more and take you more seriously.
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
Hay thats my first sigg:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
YAY!
oh and i more thingy, I SWEAR ITS THE LAST ONE!, does the stock BKO extreme 04 come with the line thingimigiger there the air flows thrugh? you know the thingy thats attached to the drop.:eyes: ok mabe its me or do i sound like im lost.:eyes:
That is called a macroline. The BKO comes stock with 2 elbows and a peice of macroline, it does not come with an ASA. You are going to have to buy a ASA or Drop. I highly recommend the Check it Products Unimount. You can find them at www.shootpaint.com for 35$
I SWEAR IF ANYONE IS POSTING THIS AT THE SAME TIME I WILL GO CRAZY! RECOMMENDING THE UNIMOUNT IS MY JOB!
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:30 PM
Yes, it comes with a six inch piece a macroline hose and two 90 degree macroline hose fittings, although, it does not come with a air source adapter.
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
I SWEAR IF ANYONE IS POSTING THIS AT THE SAME TIME I WILL GO CRAZY! RECOMMENDING THE UNIMOUNT IS MY JOB! Well, I didn't say anything about the unimount :paranoid:
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 03:34 PM
and by the air source adapter you mean the part where it screws in right?
DOH! I DIDENT SEE THE STICKY FAQ!!!!!:laugh: :laugh:
next time ill look and see if i can find it first. oh i also found the search to be helpful.:D
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=212535
gomster
05-27-2004, 03:35 PM
OH MY GOSH! He used the sticky and the search feature! I am impressed typhoon! :)
RainTreeBoy
05-27-2004, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
and by the air source adapter you mean the part where it screws in right?
DOH! I DIDENT SEE THE STICKY FAQ!!!!!:laugh: :laugh:
next time ill look and see if i can find it first. oh i also found the search to be helpful.:D
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=212535
see, most of your problems are already solved 100times before with that discovery.
Oh and like JB said, get a unimount/cp rail with on/off now so you can get used to the no drop kind of style, considering everyone says it gives you an advantage. I dont want to start a whole arguement here, but if you get a drop and then decide to go with a mount of something, it will take longer to get used too, so just buy a unimount right off the bat.
[Infusion]BigC
05-27-2004, 04:35 PM
And if you decide after a few months you don't like uni's, you can always go buy a drop... like me :D
:P
gomster
05-27-2004, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC
And if you decide after a few months you don't like uni's, you can always go buy a drop... like me :D
:P Why would anyone want to be a loser like you? :rolleyes: Easy choice in my book, get the Unimount and be cool like me, and I guess ImpYa, Yoda, And JB are cool like me too. :P
J/K
JustBunkered
05-27-2004, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by gomster
Why would anyone want to be a loser like you? :rolleyes: Easy choice in my book, get the Unimount and be cool like me, and I guess ImpYa, Yoda, And JB are cool like me too. :P
J/K
and people say i have a big ego? :laugh:
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 05:04 PM
im just guna take my drop off my e-rex ellite.
gomster
05-27-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by JustBunkered
and people say i have a big ego? :laugh: Hey, this is my fifteen minutes of fame in the ICD Forum! :rolleyes: :P
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-27-2004, 05:11 PM
you tell him "official ICD Master" :P
gomster
05-27-2004, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
you tell him "official ICD Master" :P :agree:
It kinda looks like that smiley is humping something, doesn't it?
JustBunkered
05-28-2004, 05:36 AM
Ok Gomster, seriously, how much did you pay Typhoon to say those things about you?
pbhitmann14
05-28-2004, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by gomster
:agree:
It kinda looks like that smiley is humping something, doesn't it?
:eyes: :( :eek: aaahhhhhhhhhh!!!, it burns!!, it burns like fire!!!!!:blindfld:
yoda101
05-28-2004, 06:11 AM
Originally posted by gomster
Hey, this is my fifteen minutes of fame in the ICD Forum! :rolleyes: :P
you've run well over your 15 minutes i think its time you deflate that bubble and get back in line
gomster
05-28-2004, 08:31 AM
Originally posted by yoda101
you've run well over your 15 minutes i think its time you deflate that bubble and get back in line SIR, YES, SIR!!!!!! :ninja:
Oh sweet ICD MASTERhood, how I shall miss you.
Parting is such sweet sorrow!
:bawling:
(0_o)typhoon(o_
05-28-2004, 10:54 AM
well, youl always be the ICD master to me.:agree:
Oh and he payed me 5$ to say that.:twocents::laugh:
gomster
05-28-2004, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by (0_o)typhoon(o_
well, youl always be the ICD master to me.:agree:
Oh and he payed me 5$ to say that.:twocents::laugh: w00t!
P.S. More money is on the way, just keep up the good work.
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