Don't waste your money

[Enlighten]

Please don't waste your money on a flatline. I know this has probably been posted before but please don't waste your moeny on the flatline.

If you wana spend your moeny on a 100 dollar barrel buy all means please get a 18 inch smart parts big daddy barrel. It absolutly rocks. Add a expansion chamber and a hyper stat bolt with the big daddy barrel and you will make an autococker wish they ahd that much accurace. I litterly had a guy come up to me after i shot him and was like how much did i pay for that set up. I said like 350 he went out and bought the same set up i had and sold his autococker becase the tippman was more accurate. He told me if i wanted to, i could of shaven him with the paintballs, that is how accurate that set up is.

[liquidsoul_sm]

For one thing, please work on the grammar becuase it is very hard to understand your post. Also, you have killed your credibility by saying that someone should by a 18inch long barrel. An 18incher makes absolutely no since. Only about 3-4 inches of a barrel are used to control the accuracy of a ball. There really is no need for a 18 inch barrel. Plus the amount of porting would make you have to hose down the barrel everytime you chopped a ball!

[Eladamri]

Actually the flatline barrel can be quite effective playing woodsball. A couple of my friends have them and use them pretty well. We usually team up the flatline with the most accurate person on on side and have them work together. The flatline can keep them pinned down while the other person advances, and about half the time the person with the flatline gets the out. But if your not playing in the woods with lots of open areas then the barrel is actually a liability, Its pretty hard to tuck in and pop out for quick shots with that barrel, and at close ranges the barrel is about as accurate as the stock barrel.

[Enlighten]

Ok lets address the firsst suggestion.

Sorry for the grammer i was typing rather fast. About the 18 inch barrel. I agree it makes no since to have a 18 inch barrel if the barrel is ported all the way down the barrel. But with the Big Daddy it is jsut ported at the tip. That means the ball doesn't lose any velocity as going down the barrel as oppose to being out of the barrel. It is the same until it gets down to the end then it lets out the air as the ball exits the barrel. So with the big daddy it is good to have a 18 inch barrel for it gains more spin and makes the shot mroe stable by the time it reaches the end of the barrel. That is why an 18 inch one is good.

To address the second one. I have played like 5 games with my flatline set up, both woodball and speedball. The only time i could see a point in it is if you are the rear guy and needs to put a shot down range. But then the shoot is not accurate and the chance of hiting the guy/gal is megerly. But it is good i have to say to pin someone down. As for woodball, myself i have not seen a time when i have to shoot that far for a flatline to pay for it self.

Thanks

[Scullyvan]

Gee you really don’t know much about paintball trajectory
Accuracy wise there is no difference between a 12in and an 18in
This has been proven many times by people who tested it
There is a nice little thread in the barrel/paint forum about that I suggest you read it
And paintballs don’t spin when they fly maybe for a couple feet after they exit the barrel, the shell spins but the paint doesn’t that means it will create friction and stop spinning after it reached a certain distance. So It all really comes down to how round the paintball is and how windy it is outside.

[Enlighten]

This is so funny. The info i am suggestion comes from one of the engineers for air gun designs. Anyways what does it matter what size abrrel you wish to use. All i said was i would suggesst the 18 inch Big Daddy barrel becasue i know it is very accurate.

Now a ball does spin out of the barrel, maybe not the entire way down the field but right out of the barrel it does spin and that spin is what puts it on target. IF the barrel is not ported till the end then the ball will not suffer any lose ofvelocity and don't matter. It is all personal preference. And me i prefer a 18 inch or a 16 inch Big Daddy. Everything is personal preference. The same way most people prefer a 12 inch or what not barrel i would prefer a 18 inch barrel. It helps me becasue i am not a spray and pray type player. I believe in one shot one kill. That is why accurace is a big thing to me. And that is why i prefer the 18 inch Big Daddy over the flatline.

[Pookister569]

um, i've had my flatline for prettly long time now and it works great. i've heard those big daddy barrels a good but if u play in the woods a lot, u should get a flatline.

don't listen to the guy, get the flatline

[Enlighten]

Oh ok i thank you for saying don't listen to me. That helps hehe. I still don't understand one thing. Why would you wana use a flatline in the woods. It is not accurate and the distance doesn't matter for you won't be shooting all that long. To me the only thing it is good for is a back man in speed ball to pinn down to cover for your team mates movement. If you want to shoot a ball a long way the flatline is good, but if you actually wana hit something then it is not a good investment.

[felony]

i have flatline
if you want something different, get it!

its great for me

i think its almost better for open fields. you can shoot across a larger open field, when opponents are lobbing..

in the forest, there may to much brush, so why not just shoot a regular barrel. neither may go real far.

but in any case, its a good barrel. i wouldnt rush or play forward with it, but id give "support" to my teamates ahead, when they rush forward, id take their old spot
its a simple concept, avoid close shooting and instead reach out and touch someone

dan

[in trauma]

Originally posted by Enlighten
Please don't waste your money on a flatline. I know this has probably been posted before but please don't waste your moeny on the flatline.

that is your opinion and you are intitled to it sorry you had a bad experience with it but

several people seem to have bad experiences for unknown reasons and me and severalother guys at my field have never had problems with it and i dont see why everyone says it it small bore and breaks balls all day

alsohyperstar bolts dont increase the preformance one bit
an expansion chamber does nothing for accuracy

[S|\|!P0R|)]

You said that your 18" didn't effect the velocity of your balls because there wasn't any porting except at the tip. It doesn't matter if you have porting at all except if it's in the first 8" of the barrel. THE BALL IS ONLY BEING PUSHED DOWN THE FIRST 7-9" OF THE BARREL, AFTER THAT IT'S ALL MOMENTUM. Just moving the ball through the rest of the barrel will cause friction and slow down the ball unless the size of the muzzle is bigger than the base.

I pretty much just play only in the woods in South Dakota. I think a long barrel would be awsome in open areas, but when your in the actual woods it would be pointless. There's so much brush and cover that unless you can get within 40ft you can never get a clean shot. Even with the stock 8" barrel on my tippmann its still hard to move through the cover.

[Enlighten]

Again i will say those barrels work for me. They might not work in your situation. BUt my original thing still stands. The only time i have seen a flatline do even decently is in speedball if you are a back man lobbing balls down field.

[C4pyro]

Just keep it clean in here boys......thats all I ask.

[Crisfofusu]

I'd like to chime in to say that a M98 with a decent barrel (I have a 10" CP one piece and a 11.5" Lapco Bigshot - both $50 barrels) is highly accurate. But, then again, accuracy is mostly based on paint-to-barrel bore match and not necessarily the marker you're using. I've also shot a number of higher-end guns and this holds true for many of them.

As for the flatline, I would seriously make a case against it. Buy it if you have the cash laying around and your game is mostly woods. I am sure, though, that if you plan on doing some speedball or close-quarters woods action, that barrel will start gathering dust. I've shot it and it does do what its advertised to do. Meaning, it has range like a mother but with accuracy, well, I wouldnt say its really accurate past 50 feet.

If someone really needs a barrel upgrade (no matter what gun but especially the 98), I'd recommend a $50 barrel (like the ones I listed above) and use the rest of the cash to save for a decent regulator.

[1shot1kill]

This is to Enlighten: Have you ever played Paintball?:confused: And as for your friend at AD, maybe he should find a new profession.:eyes:

[liquidsoul_sm]

Originally posted by in trauma


alsohyperstar bolts dont increase the preformance one bit
an expansion chamber does nothing for accuracy

An expansion chamber indirectly effects the accuracy. An expansion chamber makes your shots more consistent. This enables you to have a consistent accurate shot everytime. No it does not make your accuracy better, but it makes your regular accuracy happen more often. I am not bad mouthing you trauma I am just making sure some of our newbie friends understand what a expansion chamber can do.

[Enlighten]

Oh ok, Yes, why would i be posting if i haven't. Kind of a stupid question to me. And i didn't say he was my friend i said that an engineer who worked for AD sayed that. And it is true that is the barrel is ported close to the end it doesn't matter (AS MUCH) if it is longer. I think it is bad for some people to get on here and dog others for jsut metioning something that they have experinced working. I have experienced a big dady 18 inch barrel hit a guy and on a differnt time a 4 by 4 in the same area at 40 yards with three shots back to back. To me that is as accurate as it can get and is a good barrel to me. Maybe someone thinks that 18 inch barrels are a waste and are stupid but that is your perogative. Please don't attack someone with your opinon. I merely stated what i have experienced and i get attacked. I hope this don't happen to other who visit this site. If it does i feel sorry for everyone.