Shocker!

[xXniTemAreXx]

Hey Hey all!

Im a front man for a young gunz team and im thinking about getting a shocker. It looks like a good marker for a front player, but I was wondering if there were any other better choices. But im REALLY leaning towards the shocker.

Thanks.

[paintballer42o]

The one thing I hate about it is....
IT'S A FREAKIN' GAS HOG.

Oh and the trigger is kinda' stiff....good if you're good at walking angels triggers.

[xXniTemAreXx]

well yeah im a front player so i didnt really think the efficiency thing was really a problem. If anything ill get a HE kit but i dont really think ill go through over 600 paintballs in one game.

[hybrid-sniper]

shockers are nice, they're so small and are pretty cheap for what you get, the stock trigger isn't completely terriblei was able to easily outshoot a 12v revvy.

They're great guns, but they're absolute gas hogs and the trigger needs some work out of the box.
Other then that i'd say go for it.

Personally i'd recommend either an ebladed cocker or a matrix over the shocker though, im not to much of a shocker fan, but if your not an efficiency buff and don't mind giving the trigger a little work then it should be a good gun for you.

[RoAdUsT443]

i like the nasty shocker :)

[bluesharpie88]

I have to agree the thing is an absoloute feather:eek: Though my friend used up his entire 47/3000 tank in one short air ball game(like 5 mins):eyes: He has also had nothing but problems with it. He recently got the HE bolt kit and a ccm clamping rise, though it hasent worked since then so I cant comment on them;)

[slushii]

Shockers are great! I really like them, because they are so small and are ideal for a front player. The trigger isnt too bad although it could be a bit better. As for the efficiency, it doesnt matter all that much if you play front and you can always get a new bolt kit when you have spare cash. I say go with a shocker.

[paintballer42o]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx
well yeah im a front player so i didnt really think the efficiency thing was really a problem. If anything ill get a HE kit but i dont really think ill go through over 600 paintballs in one game.
Well you'll be needing at LEAST a 68/4500 tank.
Go for the Shocker if you want one, I would get one.

[can'tthink of1]

Once you get it working, and possibly after sending it to SP a few times, its supposedly a great marker.

[slushii]

Originally posted by can'tthink of1
Once you get it working, and possibly after sending it to SP a few times, its supposedly a great marker.
Yea thats the only bad thing about them. SP still needs to work out a few quirks. But when you get your shocker working well, its a GREAT gun.

[gone...]

Originally posted by RoAdUsT443
i like the nasty shocker :)
Dont get a nasty. they are put to gether horribly (at least the ones sold to teh general public). My friend has had so many troubles with his...

[p8ntfreak98]

Alias > shocker

2k2 timmy > shocker

Dye trix > shocker

A freaking bushy > shocker

Used GZ timmy > shocker

Used LED trix > shocker

DM4 > shocker anyday

a4 > shocker

Cocker > shocker

Emag > shocker



Get the idea?

[paintballer42o]

Originally posted by p8ntfreak98
Alias > shocker

2k2 timmy > shocker

Dye trix > shocker

A freaking bushy > shocker

Used GZ timmy > shocker

Used LED trix > shocker

DM4 > shocker anyday

a4 > shocker

Cocker > shocker

Emag > shocker



Get the idea?
WHAT? COUGH*avatar*COUGH

[xXniTemAreXx]

mebe i shuld get teh angel speed instead? or mebe a dyetrix lcd?

[robdamanii]

Trix LCD hands down.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx
mebe i shuld get teh angel speed instead? or mebe a dyetrix lcd?

Dye lcd is a more quality marker than the shocker. If you don't mind the fact that it weighs about 3x as much, then go for it. I personally would probably rock a shocker due to sheer weight. Or therefore lack of.

[Sam#27]

shockers are pretty nice but to fix the efficaincy problem u need to spend like 100 bones on a new bolt. If i were you id get a viking, cyborg, or used e/x mag

[Shadow221]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
Or therefore lack of. <insulting tonty>
Nice butchering of grammar! You could've said either:

Or, rather, lack of.
or
Or lack there of.
</insulting tonty>

Shocker, eh? Go find on and hold it. Like the feel? Then buy it. With high end guns, how it feels in your hands is all that really matters.

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by p8ntfreak98
Alias > shocker

2k2 timmy > shocker

Dye trix > shocker

A freaking bushy > shocker

Used GZ timmy > shocker

Used LED trix > shocker

DM4 > shocker anyday

a4 > shocker

Cocker > shocker

Emag > shocker

spyder > shocker

phishy > shocker

anything > shocker



Get the idea?

:P

stock shockers are just plain horrible...the only thing i personally like about them is the weight...crazy-light.

but still...i'd rather shoot a cocker, or a timmy, or an angel, or yes, even a spyder(with the right upgrades).

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by Ghost2867


:P

stock shockers are just plain horrible...the only thing i personally like about them is the weight...crazy-light.

but still...i'd rather shoot a cocker, or a timmy, or an angel, or yes, even a spyder(with the right upgrades). Okay, how about we don't exaggerate too much, mmk?

Shockers can be good. They're not a good high-end out of the box, so they're going to take a lot of work. If you were going to get a Shocker, I'd reccomend Vision Shocker, HE Bolt, New Trigger (Nasty, NDz), Reg (Yuck Max-Flo), Bottomline, Feedneck, and barrel. That's a lot of cash, and in the end, you still have a marker that whiel it may be light and look cool, it's still not as efficient as other high-ends (even with a bolt kit), the eye sucks and you WILL chop (nice job by using the exact same Vision eye from Impulse SP, reflective POS), and it's not going to rip compared to others.

Don't get a Shocker, please :) Timmys all the way. You can get some nice used ones for $800-900 these days, which is in the $850 price of a new Vision Shocker.

[xXniTemAreXx]

Well i need something light and under 1000$... Maybe teh icd freestyle? Anybody try that marker ?

[xXniTemAreXx]

okay everyone, i changed my mind about the shocker, and im going to save up for a macdev cyborg instead.

Does anyone know where i can get one? Like any websites? Thanks!

[can'tthink of1]

I'm not dissing on your age but you are 13, and I say you need to get out and play some more and try other people's markers out, just ask them, and most people are usually nice enough to let you try it out. Also where are you getting $1k from? If anything you won't be making that $ for a bit, and by the time you make it macdev could be caught up and cyborgs shouldn't be on backorder anymore. They are like 950 or 980 new, something like that, right around 1k. But right now cyborgs are on backorder so you can only get them used, and those run higher than them new, or you can wait for them to be in stock again.

[xXniTemAreXx]

yeah x_x. I know, im not getting it any time soon, maybe in a few months, i just wanted to know what marker i should get next. And i get my money from winning tennis tourneys, 100$ from my dad everytime i win a tourney :D. Also he pays for half of everything i buy, so ima only pay like 500$. :)

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx
100$ from my dad everytime i win a tourney :D. Also he pays for half of everything i buy, so ima only pay like 500$. :) I'd like your Dad...

[xXniTemAreXx]

lol, im sure you would :D

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by Juvenile
I'd like your Dad...

[SwordfishIII]

ill trade you dads :idea:

[AR55 MtM]

Damn you are a lucky son of a gun the only way I got my guns was that I sold over 200 surge units to Saddle Brook for $1800 made $1500 spent $1200 so I only have $300 left but I'm keeping that money for my pimp mobile :cool:

[Ghost2867]

i have a job that pays minimum wage...

lol...

[cocker kid 2k2]

I love how some of you are saying that you can only get 1k shots per fill on a Shocker, so you need a new bolt kit. When ironically enough, numbers like that are very simliar for the Dye Matrix. Which means it's not that great of an advantage. The guns shoot just like a Matrix too, same concept of internals, nothing special or different.

[AR55 MtM]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
I love how some of you are saying that you can only get 1k shots per fill on a Shocker, so you need a new bolt kit. When ironically enough, numbers like that are very simliar for the Dye Matrix. Which means it's not that great of an advantage. The guns shoot just like a Matrix too, same concept of internals, nothing special or different.
So you would rather buy a Shocker instead of a matrix?

[slushii]

I would. Just cuz they are mad small, and I have loved the ones ive shot.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by slushii
I would. Just cuz they are mad small, and I have loved the ones ive shot.

Since I play front, and i'd prefer a gun that weighs less than 2 pounds, then yeah, I would. Over any regular Matrix that is. No way in hell would I take it over a DM4.

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
I love how some of you are saying that you can only get 1k shots per fill on a Shocker, so you need a new bolt kit. When ironically enough, numbers like that are very simliar for the Dye Matrix. Which means it's not that great of an advantage. The guns shoot just like a Matrix too, same concept of internals, nothing special or different.
ur average trix gets just under a thousand shots off a full 68/4500...

shockers get a couple hundred less.

:edit:
AND...the evolve bolt kit is more effective than the HE kit for the shocker...i think the evolve kit is a bit more expensive, but either way...you could get more shots off in the end off a trix in any case.

[AR55 MtM]

You guys do realize getting 1000 shots off of a 68/4500psi tank is average right? I mean come on no gun is going to have superb efficiency, well except a few of them.

[Ghost2867]

my cocker gets around 1200, maybe a bit more.

i got 1400 from my spyder.

[AR55 MtM]

Well what kind of reg did they have? Was your cocker sweeted?

[ShadowWalker]

Originally posted by Ghost2867

ur average trix gets just under a thousand shots off a full 68/4500...

shockers get a couple hundred less.

:edit:
AND...the evolve bolt kit is more effective than the HE kit for the shocker...i think the evolve kit is a bit more expensive, but either way...you could get more shots off in the end off a trix in any case.

Evolve makes a shocker bolt too...

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by AR55 MtM
You guys do realize getting 1000 shots off of a 68/4500psi tank is average right? I mean come on no gun is going to have superb efficiency, well except a few of them.

I can get nearly 1750 out of a FULL 68/45 fill on my speed.

[AR55 MtM]

Okay I see that a lot of people know how to fine tune their regulators the case in point is that getting 1000 shots is average getting 800 would be poor efficiency for a 68/45.

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by ShadowWalker


Evolve makes a shocker bolt too...
how effective is it?

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by AR55 MtM
Okay I see that a lot of people know how to fine tune their regulators the case in point is that getting 1000 shots is average getting 800 would be poor efficiency for a 68/45. whoa! people only get that much of them? Ive gotten 900+ shots off my 47/3k before..:D

[Jeezer]

Ya'll need to stop bashing the shocker, its a gun that needs work, but its still a pretty solid gun.

[sIc]

From my expierience with my shocker, ill admit it needs some work. But after i sent it to SP, its a great gun, very smooth, fast, light (obviously) should be even better with the tadeo board coming out.

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by sIc
From my expierience with my shocker, ill admit it needs some work. But after i sent it to SP, its a great gun, very smooth, fast, light (obviously) should be even better with the tadeo board coming out.

key phrase..."after i sent it to SP"

:P

otherwise, yes, its definitely worth it, but until u get it working right, it sucks...and most times, it doesnt work rite out-of-the-box.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by Ghost2867

how effective is it?

Around 1500 per fill, but Evolve is working on a new bolt kit for the shocker since the first one is kinda mediocre.

[Ghost2867]

ooohhh...its not out yet?

shadowwalker said, "evolve makes a shocker bolt"...

yea, he SP HE bolt is...yea...1400-1500, which is actually rather decent.

[xXniTemAreXx]

Anyone here know where they sell borgs? Or when they'll start sending more to America? Bloody Australians..

[AR55 MtM]

Wow you sure can steer this thread off topic now can't ya.

[xXniTemAreXx]

:paranoid: Wasn't me.

[Jspek]

Dude Shockers RULE!! Just the part about hogging Gas but ya

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by Jspek
Dude Shockers RULE!! Just the part about hogging Gas but ya and how u need to send 'em into SP a few times, and how the trigger feels kinda sandy and wierd...

;)

[AR55 MtM]

Why do people always down Shockers soo much any one can say anything bad about any gun, so please stop saying that shockers suck it is not hard to get the trigger down to a nice light & magnetic pull. They are easy to understand and easy to fix. I think the only bad 03 Shockers were the pre 1500s other than that I think they have better batches now.

[xXniTemAreXx]

I think everyone hates shockers cuz they are made by sp.

[AR55 MtM]

No people hate Shocker cause they do not understand the people using them or understand how they work, this is why people are having "horrible" problems with their gun its the same thing with cockers & people who do not understand them.

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx
I think everyone hates shockers cuz they are made by sp.
i actually am one of the non-SP haters...even tho i used to be. check out the smart parts thread in general, im not sure if its still stickied or not, so...w/e...the last few pages will give u my opinion.

Originally posted by AR55 MtM
No people hate Shocker cause they do not understand the people using them or understand how they work, this is why people are having "horrible" problems with their gun its the same thing with cockers & people who do not understand them.
what do u mean by not the ppl using them? and they work similarly to a trix in teh sense that it has only one tube, and there is no ram thing...only the bolt.

[AR55 MtM]

I was talking to sean and here is what he had to say.


AR55 MtM wrote on 06-30-2004 10:38 PM:
I know your the company rep, but I also know you are not biased.
Is there anything wrong with the 03 Shockers? I was going to order one but I am not so sure now. I understand how they work its just the fact that people say they break down all the time and I don't know what to think about it.


sean@smartparts wrote on 06-30-2004 05:59 PM:
I used to think the same as well... that they always broke down. I also work at KAPP at nights wrenching on guns. I always looked down on Smart Parts. I was offered this job and took it... he bribed me with a free gun. First time out.... hopper breaks. Second time out, my max flow blows out because I was not using the on/off.... my fault.... Finally... the third weekend.... We played Hollywood Sports and SC village a few weekends ago. The gun shot amazing... I have not felt like that shooting a gun in a long time.. I feel sorry for all those heads I blasted off.

I also went to the XPSL in LA this past weekend and fixed around 20 guns. All of them had he same problem. User not taking care of it. broken on/off switches from taking apart the gun. Using wrong grease. After replacing a few orings... they all ended shooting great. Very simple gun. Very easy to work on. I have 0 problems with them now and think they are amazing. I would get one... oh wait a minute... already do!


AR55 MtM wrote on 06-30-2004 11:34 PM:
I see now so it is the users fault? It funny when you think about it cause the gun was made to be user friendly.

[Ghost2867]

taht's very interesting...

but either way, i'd buy a used trix, or save up for a new one in the shocker's price range.

[AR55 MtM]

The truth has come out people are complete idiots!!!!!!

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by Ghost2867
ooohhh...its not out yet?

shadowwalker said, "evolve makes a shocker bolt"...

yea, he SP HE bolt is...yea...1400-1500, which is actually rather decent.

Evolve has one complete bolt kit for the Shocker on the market already, but there have been rumors of them re-doing it since the pre-existing version isn't up to par with the efficiency of some of the other markers around.

Basically, they think they can do better.

[nole16k]

If someone wants to think the Shocker sucks or w/e, then let them think that. If they prefer a different marker, that's fine. Stop whining... :rolleyes: .

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2


Evolve has one complete bolt kit for the Shocker on the market already, but there have been rumors of them re-doing it since the pre-existing version isn't up to par with the efficiency of some of the other markers around.

Basically, they think they can do better.
icic.

and to nole and ar55...i never said shockers suck period...i said they suck out-of-the-box in pretty much all cases.

"otherwise, yes, its definitely worth it, but until u get it working right, it sucks...and most times, it doesnt work rite out-of-the-box." -- i said that.