BKO + Halo B: Good Idea???

[Longhorn450]

Hey, I am thinking about getting a Halo B (already have the $$$) but I have heard some stuff about the Halo being to forceful on the detents and causing double feeds. I have the oring detents on my gun. If I get the Halo, will I run into any problems with that? Thanks!!

[JustBunkered]

A BKO + Halo B = awesome. Just make sure you do the macro detent mod.

[lotus_esprit5]

As I said in that other post, don't worry about it. Angels are really the only guns that have that problem. I've never had a double feed in the 7 months that I have had my Halo. And as JB said, if you do have problems, the macroline mod will fix it.

[Longhorn450]

Thanks alot. On the Macroline mod, where exactly does the macroline go?

[JustBunkered]

http://www.pleeairsmith.com/Tech/Mods/reinforce.htm

[artshark]

Using macroline to strengthen a ball detent? CLever. Paintball forces one to resourceful, in and out of the game.




Art

[Longhorn450]

Hey, I'm also thinking about getting an upgrade to increase efficiency anf consistency. If i only have enough money o get one, what should i get? Mitey Max, Vapor Valve, Zenitram Valve, or Mac Dev Red Valve??

[artshark]

Mitey Max is a reg(LPR..I think? >_>), the others are valves. Valves let the pre-regged air pass through, and aftermarket ones do this more efficiently (less lost, etc.) For efficiency, valves will do this best. As to WHICH valve, I know I'm going with Vapor. I hear it is teh best.



Art

[Longhorn450]

Thansk, and what has anyone heard about the A Plus Clamping feed neck?

[eastcoastplayer]

Mitey Max is a volumizer, totally different from a reg.

My friend has an A+ clamping rise. It's nice:)

[lotus_esprit5]

Doesn't the Mitey Max basically act as an external air chamber, pretty much enlarging the existing internal air chamber? I don't really know how volumizers work, I'm gonna go check that out.

As for valves. Red is good, but I've heard of some ppl having problems with installing them and stuff.

I recommend Zeni or Vapor. They are pretty much the same valve, except Vapor uses a Black Magic cupseal and Zeni uses an o-ring. There is another thread a couple of spaces above this one that compares these valves in more detail.

[JustBunkered]

You are correct lotus. And with a new feedneck, you can't get much better then the CCM.

[Longhorn450]

Whats CCM?

[RainTreeBoy]

Originally posted by Longhorn450
Whats CCM?
At type of feedneck.

[artshark]

Volumizer? K? I thought guns intended to use N2 did not need them. My friend who explained volumizers to me and their lack of neccessity is a n00b! Well, so am I....


Art

[PeYToN-SS]

Originally posted by artshark
Volumizer? K? I thought guns intended to use N2 did not need them. My friend who explained volumizers to me and their lack of neccessity is a n00b! Well, so am I....


Art

He was probably talking about volumizers on Spyders and other blowbacks. They are basically for cosmetics. It helps CO2 expand some, but its not that big of a performance increase.

[RainTreeBoy]

Yeah but pre 2k4 BKOs had volumizers, and many people say that they're better performing than the newer BKOs because of that. They're not just for CO2.

[JustBunkered]

Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
Yeah but pre 2k3 BKOs had volumizers, and many people say that they're better performing than the newer BKOs because of that. They're not just for CO2.
pre 2k4, 2k3s had them.

[yoda101]

Originally posted by RainTreeBoy
Yeah but pre 2k3 BKOs had volumizers, and many people say that they're better performing than the newer BKOs because of that. They're not just for CO2.

you mean pre 2k4 bko's had volumizers. Any BKO can be made to run on CO2. Even the new stock regs on the bkos are not made for CO2, they just seem to work enough to get by. ICD has never said that any of their regs work with CO2 they have always said HPA.

[yoda101]

Originally posted by PeYToN-SS


He was probably talking about volumizers on Spyders and other blowbacks. They are basically for cosmetics. It helps CO2 expand some, but its not that big of a performance increase.

like peyton mentioned the volumizers on Spyders do somewhat of a difference then on a BKO. The spyders volumizer helped the co2 when going to gas and held unregulated air, with the BKO the volumizers hold post regulated air and help you with more shots per fill.

[yoda101]

Originally posted by RainTreeBoy

At type of feedneck.

its not a type of feedneck its a maker of a 3rd party feedneck. CCM= Chipley's Custom Machining. They make a great clamping feedneck for about almost every thread type. Check-It also makes a real nice feedneck.

[RainTreeBoy]

Originally posted by yoda101


you mean pre 2k4 bko's had volumizers. Any BKO can be made to run on CO2. Even the new stock regs on the bkos are not made for CO2, they just seem to work enough to get by. ICD has never said that any of their regs work with CO2 they have always said HPA.
Yeah sorry about that, I'll edit it.

But yoda, I think the regs that came on the unmilled (same ones as on b2ks) were able to be run off of co2, but not the ones that come on the milled ones. Arent the ones on the milled BKOs just 03 regs that were made to match the new milling? And I thought that the 03 regs werent good with co2...at all.

And sorry bout the CCM thing, I thought he'd understand I meant its a company that makes feednecks for bushies and other guns. Heres the link http://chipleymachine.com/feednecks.html.

[JustBunkered]

Originally posted by yoda101
Check-It also makes a real nice feedneck.
Does anyone know a store that sells the check it feednecks?

[yoda101]

Originally posted by JustBunkered

Does anyone know a store that sells the check it feednecks? Paintballgateway (http://www.paintballgateway.com) they are the main distrubitor for check-it products. Also check ebay there always seems to be the same guy selling them on there. Mostly angel or impulse threaded though (the impulse worked perfectly on mine)

[JustBunkered]

thanks Yoda.

[yoda101]

Originally posted by RainTreeBoy

Yeah sorry about that, I'll edit it.

But yoda, I think the regs that came on the unmilled (same ones as on b2ks) were able to be run off of co2, but not the ones that come on the milled ones. Arent the ones on the milled BKOs just 03 regs that were made to match the new milling? And I thought that the 03 regs werent good with co2...at all.

And sorry bout the CCM thing, I thought he'd understand I meant its a company that makes feednecks for bushies and other guns. Heres the link http://chipleymachine.com/feednecks.html.

No reason to apologize rtb just wanted to make sure he understood what u meant, not so much to correct you. The new regs are about the same as the 03 regs and correct dont work well with CO2. The unmilled do work a bit better with CO2 but that wasnt my point. From what I have seen and read ICD does not make their regs to tolerate CO2, which can lead to problems down the line. Just because it works now doesnt mean down the line you arent going to run into problems and the reg could spike costing you more money down the line for a new reg, a new solenoid maybe replacing orings etc.... its better to run a proper setup now then pay for it worse down the line.

[yoda101]

Originally posted by JustBunkered
thanks Yoda.

anytime glad to be back :) Vacation was much needed though, now that im back at work i will post regularly again

[JustBunkered]

good to know you are back, maybe you can straighten these hooligans out!

[RainTreeBoy]

Yeah, thats why if people want to run co2, i always think its best to just shell out the money to be safe and double-stab your gun like polemos. Thats only really if HPA isnt available to you though.


And I saw that yoda, quoted yourself, eh? Pretty fast at editing though:) . Anyways, welcome back man, glad your helping out the forums again. Oddly enough, quite a bit has changed in the short time you've been gone...

[stephenbartone]

You don't need the o-ring mod on your detent. I have a halo B with stock detents and it doesn't push balls past it. Plus it rips like crazy.

[yoda101]

some people do some people dont its just a matter of luck i guess, always try first without the mod only do it if you run into issues

[Longhorn450]

Hey, I tried out my Halo on my gun today and it went great. but then right as i was goin gto quit, i fanned my trigger once more and chopped a ball in the barrel. I know how to fix a double feeding problem w/ a Halo, but how will i know if it was a double feed ? The paint that was broken splattered in the chamber, and then some at the tip of the barrel. I was using red Draxxus paint that was maybe 2-3 months old. Thanks!

[rock]

its probly because its 2-3months old and it was a little wierd. try some new paint