View Full Version : Matrix LCD or Phyton Impulse
jejeje
07-03-2004, 12:30 PM
Hi,
this is just curiosity...
i have seen that the phyton it,s one of the best stock upgrades impulses for the market but alot of persons say a Matrix LCD isthe way to go...what you think???
I dont care for looks...i only care for performance.
:)
dog-of-Dislexia
07-03-2004, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by jejeje
what you think?
I think you should read the stickies. :)
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=240451
nos911
07-03-2004, 12:49 PM
Matrix LCD. This is coming from an Impulse owner, too.
asa4575
07-03-2004, 01:31 PM
matrix hands down.
that thing is hella fast and low matinence.
AR55 MtM
07-03-2004, 01:34 PM
For the price of a Matrix you can get a 03 Shocker with vision for the price of the Shocker you can get a WASed Impulse with all ND internals, or you can save up $100 more dollors and buy a Cyborg. I would go for the Matrix if it was between the pulse & the trix
Juvenile
07-03-2004, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by AR55 MtM
For the price of a Matrix you can get a 03 Shocker with vision for the price of the Shocker you can get a WASed Impulse with all ND internals, or you can save up $100 more dollors and buy a Cyborg. I would go for the Matrix if it was between the pulse & the trix Except '03 Shockers are the biggest pieces of ****, and SP is the worst company to deal with. So many of my friends brought their Shockers today, only to be met with chopping with the ****ty reflective eye on, barrel breaks (good paint, good match), Max-Flo leaking, etc.
Sorry but I'm so against Shockers now it's not even funny.
Oh, Matrix :tup:
Schwa
07-03-2004, 03:54 PM
Matrix all the way. I absolutely LOVE the feel of matrix's, even stock ones. Matrix is the way to go man, they have virtually 0 kick and the trigger is delicious.
can'tthink of1
07-03-2004, 03:56 PM
Trix :tup:
asa4575
07-03-2004, 03:59 PM
Originally posted by Juvenile
Except '03 Shockers are the biggest pieces of ****, and SP is the worst company to deal with. So many of my friends brought their Shockers today, only to be met with chopping with the ****ty reflective eye on, barrel breaks (good paint, good match), Max-Flo leaking, etc.
shenanigans
ive seen 5 shockers over at different feels and nothing has happened to them. they shoot and run flawlessly.
Blacksheep
07-03-2004, 04:56 PM
Despite he fact that I hate Smart Parts (this is kinda weird, I am glad that they have bumped the game/sport up a notch in competetive manufacturing, but I despie the means by which they did it), the Shocker has run flawlessly except for one Max-Flo leak (lack of maintenance).
acdave
07-03-2004, 05:33 PM
sexy trix fo sho.
Imps :boring:
nos911
07-03-2004, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by acdave
Imps :boring:
Not all of them. Just the stock bodied ones.
acdave
07-03-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by nos911
Not all of them. Just the stock bodied ones.
Yeah i guess rats are pretty hot.
tippmannweekend
07-03-2004, 08:18 PM
on the other hand i know 2 people who have gotten shockers and both of them are fubar now, one of them has only played one day and hasn't taken it apart or anything and it's leak city
Six Feet Under
07-04-2004, 03:37 AM
Matrix.
flyflatlander01
07-04-2004, 06:34 AM
Originally posted by Juvenile
Except '03 Shockers are the biggest pieces of ****, and SP is the worst company to deal with. So many of my friends brought their Shockers today, only to be met with chopping with the ****ty reflective eye on, barrel breaks (good paint, good match), Max-Flo leaking, etc.
Sorry but I'm so against Shockers now it's not even funny.
Oh, Matrix :tup:
ya, the 03 shockers have lots of problems with chopping and the eye doesnt work for crap, maxxy leaking, fun stuff:| , but go with a trix
robdamanii
07-04-2004, 08:48 AM
goddamn go with the trix
Canadia_PBaller
07-04-2004, 02:09 PM
Go for the Borg man, for some extra cash, you get a gun that can outperform either hands down.
I don't like Impys, tho the Python is pure secks looking.....but the Trix owns it when it comes to performance. So out of the Impy and the Trix............Trix>Impy.
acdave
07-04-2004, 02:17 PM
trix>>>>>>>>>>>>*** imps and borgs
something nasty
07-04-2004, 02:26 PM
Dye trix...
Canadia_PBaller
07-04-2004, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by acdave
trix>>>>>>>>>>>>*** imps and borgs
Haha, no.
A Cyborg outperforms any stock Trix with ease. The DM4 is what the Cyborg is more comparable too, not the Dye LCD Trix.
acdave
07-04-2004, 02:40 PM
put a UL and a clamping feedneck on a dm3 and youve got a gun that performs the same as a dm4. Only deffernece is the 1.5 pound weight difference and the internal lpr.
robdamanii
07-04-2004, 03:03 PM
The LCD trix will massacre just about anything out there. It's sick fast.
Canadia_PBaller
07-04-2004, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by acdave
put a UL and a clamping feedneck on a dm3 and youve got a gun that performs the same as a dm4. Only deffernece is the 1.5 pound weight difference and the internal lpr.
.........um, no.
The DM4 has pretty much, way better everything then the DM3. Milling, Barrel, Ram, Spool/Bolt, LPR...I think the eyes are the same correct me if I'm wrong...
The DM3 doesn't perform the same as a DM4 if you put a new barrel on it......
something nasty
07-05-2004, 06:48 AM
A DM3 with an evolve bolt and tadao board will run circles around a DM4. The only thing the DM4 has on it is weight and easier maintainence. I'd take my ironmen trix over a DM4 any day.
acdave
07-05-2004, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller
Ram, Spool/Bolt, LPR...
:laugh: No.
The new 2k4 llpr that comes stock on the dye lcd is amazing. And they have 2 completly different bolt designs. And the effiency of both these guns are actually about the same.
DM3= $825
dm4= $1350
If you put 500 bucks into a dm3 you will have a much much better gun than the dm4.
Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller
Ram,
Sorry buddy but matrixes actually dont have rams. spool vavle desein;)
Canadia_PBaller
07-05-2004, 12:04 PM
Meh, I don't know too much about the names of the internals on Trixes, but all the same, a Cyborg still pwns a Matrix LCD. Hell, IMO a Cyborg pwns a DM4.
cheese stix
07-05-2004, 02:38 PM
go with the trix
xXniTemAreXx
07-05-2004, 04:42 PM
I say get teh trix + evolve bolt. You'll have a monster.
acdave
07-05-2004, 05:03 PM
Canadia_PBaller: Im just wonderin but have you shot a cyborg and a dye trix? Just wonderin cause for all i know you could have shot both of em.
robdamanii
07-05-2004, 05:11 PM
Shot em both. The cyborg reminds me more of a timmy. the trix reminds me of...well, a DM4.
The trix is faster and more upgradable right now, whereas the borg is lighter and more consistent.
Canadia_PBaller
07-05-2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by robdamanii
The trix is faster and more upgradable right now, whereas the borg is lighter and more consistent.
I hope you mean that the Trix is faster then the Impulse.....because Cyborgs can EASILY keep up with DM4s, and Cyborgs don't need any upgrades, except maybe a clamping feed neck (which is out), and a new barrel, if you don't like the Matchstik(which is a SUPERB barrel).
Originally posted by acdave
Canadia_PBaller: Im just wonderin but have you shot a cyborg and a dye trix? Just wonderin cause for all i know you could have shot both of em.
I know I've shot a Trix, I just can't remember if it was a Dye LCD or not......but it was hella fast. I just like the feel of the Borg better IMO. I was actually considering getting a Dye LCD, but I just really like the Cyborg more, better bang for the buck IMO.
wanabe TOSA
07-05-2004, 11:48 PM
i own an impulse an im tellin u they suk - their all the same basically
trix hands down, theres jus no compation
robdamanii
07-06-2004, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller
I hope you mean that the Trix is faster then the Impulse.....because Cyborgs can EASILY keep up with DM4s, and Cyborgs don't need any upgrades, except maybe a clamping feed neck (which is out), and a new barrel, if you don't like the Matchstik(which is a SUPERB barrel).
No, the trix is faster than the cyborg. Much nicer trigger on the trix than the borg.
p8ntfreak98
07-06-2004, 04:26 AM
Oh my god I agree with rob. Call the press the worlds ending :laugh:
But yeah robs right on everything so far.
Borg is just bleh. Not saying it isn't a good gun, but the matrix destroys it.
something nasty
07-06-2004, 07:17 AM
The only borgs I've shot were slow and ugly.
smegle5
07-06-2004, 07:21 AM
TRIX R FoR KIDS!!!!
lol im j/p
but def go with a trix, and get that ^^^^ milled on the side, that would b soo awesom ud b my hero
Canadia_PBaller
07-06-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by robdamanii
No, the trix is faster than the cyborg. Much nicer trigger on the trix than the borg.
:laugh:
robdamanii
07-06-2004, 04:27 PM
Not to mention...with the...oh 700 bucks yuo save on a trix, you can add the parts to make it a DM4 without the fancy milling.
I've seen it done, I've shot it. It's an amazing thing.
If you like the borg, fine with me. The trix will beat it hands down however.
Canadia_PBaller
07-06-2004, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by robdamanii
Not to mention...with the...oh 700 bucks yuo save on a trix, you can add the parts to make it a DM4 without the fancy milling.
I've seen it done, I've shot it. It's an amazing thing.
If you like the borg, fine with me. The trix will beat it hands down however.
I don't know where you're buying your Cyborgs from, but they only cost about $180 more.......
robdamanii
07-06-2004, 04:36 PM
Retail shop near us has it for about 1325, + tax.
Last trix I saw was 700.
Canadia_PBaller
07-06-2004, 06:41 PM
That's so harsh. I pay $50 more, but it's in Canadian dollars.....where I buy from the Trix is only about $200 less then the Cyborg. But whatever, it's all personal prefrence........but at least we agree on something. (That the Trix, and Borg PWN the Impy).
robdamanii
07-06-2004, 07:15 PM
Hah, yeah. The local place (not the place I work at in NY, I'd kill thm for overcharging) sells a Angel speeds for 1100.
Unbelievable.
I just didn't like the borg as compared to the trix. Sure it is indeed up there with the cream of the crop, just not my style (same way I hate the 03 shocker).
Now impulses....got nothing compared to timmies, borg, trix, angel....etc.
radishboy
07-06-2004, 07:20 PM
:idea: viking!
Canadia_PBaller
07-06-2004, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by radishboy
:idea: viking!
If he can find one, yea. Vikings are freaking awesome.
radishboy
07-06-2004, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller
If he can find one, yea. Vikings are freaking awesome.
pbn has a BST thread just for AKA markers. thats where i got mine!
ShadowWalker
07-07-2004, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by Juvenile
Except '03 Shockers are the biggest pieces of ****, and SP is the worst company to deal with. So many of my friends brought their Shockers today, only to be met with chopping with the ****ty reflective eye on, barrel breaks (good paint, good match), Max-Flo leaking, etc.
Sorry but I'm so against Shockers now it's not even funny.
Oh, Matrix :tup:
Thats funny, I've put 2-2 1/2 cases of paint through mine and haven't had one ball break due to my gun (crappy field paint, and some dark green stuff). I have no fsdo, and absolutely no leaks what so ever. I don't get how barrel breaks are the guns fault either? That isn't the gun. Thats the barrel, hence its called a "barrel break".
Canadia_PBaller
07-07-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by radishboy
pbn has a BST thread just for AKA markers. thats where i got mine!
I've seen some good ones, with WAS/ACE. For like $720.
radishboy
07-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller
I've seen some good ones, with WAS/ACE. For like $720.
that's average. i paid $800 for a late '03 with WAS/ACE, CCM no rise, 3 triggers, new anno,on/off...ect...
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