Get a TES? Or stay with the Spyder?

[SpyderPride]

Ive put some time and money into my Spyder Imagine, but I still find myself lacking in speed. It is hard for me to rip out a nice consistant rope of paint off the break with my current setup. Every so often I will find that perfect rhythm and speed that send 1 or 2 people walking off the field before they even get to their first bunkers, but this doesnt happen very often. I have a feeling that I am hitting the cap of my stock board, which is slowing me down and causing me to skip shots, which is not good when you are laying down a rope.

As you can see in my sig, my Spyder is pretty upped, except for the stock board's 13 bps cap. I will not buy an aftermarket board, because of price reasons. This is where the TES comes in.

I recently shot my buddy's TES, and I am able to absolutely RIP with it. Fast, consistant ropes are easy to accomplish, even though his setup is completely stock. His switch has to be at about 200g while mine is at about 50g, but I can go much faster (easier) with his.

Ive done some educated figuring, and I can get about $225 out of my Spyder's parts, and to get into a TES it would cost about $200.

TES ups- Tigershark bolt, Ergo reg, JJ Ceram barrel, Egg2, duckbill.

The bolt and the duckbill are the only things I will have to buy other than the marker itself. I have everything else.


What do you guys think? Would it be worth it? Or is it just wasted effort? Personal experiences would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance.

[Woods Sniper]

Only do it if you feel like sticking with blowbacks. I say you save a little longer and buy a BKO if you want speed, or just buy a used Mag and wait for the hAir trigger to come out.

[SpyderPride]

I need to stay with something that can use CO2, because I cant afford an HPA tank.

[Woods Sniper]

Then yes, get the TES.

[thunderpig]

Kind of silly to move from one blowback to another...

BKOs can run fine off of regulated co2. I'd go for that, or a used mag or imp.

But whatever floats your boat, I guess.

[SpyderPride]

Wouldnt liquid CO2 bust the noid in a BKO? I have anti-siphon, but I dont want to have something that could break at any time. I know a blowback will never be hurt by CO2. I know that a BKO can break because of CO2.

[thunderpig]

Read the co2 faq thing in ICD. I don't remember it too well.

It states something along the lines that a/s co2 + a descent HPR, will be fine.

[Morox]

I wouldn't risk using a co2 tank on a BKO. Especially if you invest that much money into it and then it suddenly breaks down. I just ordered a TES today by the way.

[wanabe TOSA]

imps are made for co2 hommes

[ace6160]

Originally posted by wanabe TOSA
imps are made for co2 hommes

Get an imp.

[static - xtra]

well i was planning on getting rid of my spyder for a tes also but then i decided to go with a used minimag

[teufelhunden]

You were lacking in speed so you went from an E-Spyder to a minimag?


Duh...

[smegle5]

just get a bko, then a palmer stab and a/s ur co2 and should b fine

[PeYToN-SS]

Get a BKO and a 47ci Nitro tank. You can find 47ci's used for around $50.

[SpyderPride]

Originally posted by smegle5
just get a bko, then a palmer stab and a/s ur co2 and should b fine

Why do you guys keep recommending a BKO? Ive shot one, and I am not that impressed. A BKO is no better than a TES in these areas: speed, accuracy, consisency. A BKO has less kick than a TES, but Ive found that the kick of my Spyder doesnt bother me much. I can still keep a string within a 1 foot circle from across the field, when I can actually get a string going.

Getting a BKO and a Stabilizer or an Impulse is out of my price range anyway. You guys need to face up to the fact that blowbacks have gotten really good. Not better than low end electos, but at least very close to on par. And cheaper.

[Pyro-Shutter-md]

i thought bko was a closed bolt operated marker? i might be wrong..

i would just save up more and get a B2k4.. cuz thats what im doin =) its just so pure secks :love:

id never go from blow back to blowback.. but i duno

[RainTreeBoy]

Originally posted by Pyro-Shutter-md
i thought bko was a closed bolt operated marker? i might be wrong..

i would just save up more and get a B2k4.. cuz thats what im doin =) its just so pure secks :love:

id never go from blow back to blowback.. but i duno
No, no ICD gun is closed bolt.

If you got a BKO, all you need to run off of CO2 is a palmers female stab and an Anti-siphon tube. Then your set. If you cant save up the money for the stab though, I dont really know what to tell you.

I guess you could go with the TES, but if I were you I'd save the money and go for an electro. Hell, if you dont want to buy a new regulator, I'd een suggest a used Imp.

[robdamanii]

I'd tell you to go with a vision impulse at this point. Maxflow works UNBELIEVEABLY well on CO2, and it's a decent marker to boot.

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

I really see no point in going to the TES. Save a little more, and buy a gun that is worth it. Patience my freind. In this sport, I've found its worth your time to just lay down the big bucks at the start. It will save you money in the long run. Unless you are in tournies, and youre losing because of the Spyder, wait a little and save up for somthing good.:twocents:

[teufelhunden]

Originally posted by LAMANTEthePBguy
I really see no point in going to the TES. Save a little more, and buy a gun that is worth it. Patience my freind. In this sport, I've found its worth your time to just lay down the big bucks at the start. It will save you money in the long run. Unless you are in tournies, and youre losing because of the Spyder, wait a little and save up for somthing good.:twocents:

Ever shoot a TES? Ever play with it in a game?

Aside from feeling cheaper than my 'Cocker and having a worse reg, it's just as good. I've yet to take it past Revvy speed, but I've no reason to doubt it will perform just as well at higher ROFs. I've played entire days with my TES just for the hell of it, it's a very nice gun, especially for the money. And mine's stock..

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

Originally posted by teufelhunden
Ever shoot a TES? Ever play with it in a game?Actually no. I have wanted to, but no one at my field has one. I was talking about going real high end. Like Timmy, angel etc. I dunno, thats what I would do. And if its his board thats affecting him, why not get an IS or T board. Its cheaper. I don't follow spyders, but I think those are two of the best out there. Or that new one thats coming out soon. I mean he has a lot into that Spyder.

[Morox]

Here is a review of the gun SpyderPride that helped me with my decision to buy a TES. It might help you too.

http://www.paintballtimes.com/Printer.asp?ID=157

[comando345]

Originally posted by SpyderPride

I recently shot my buddy's TES, and I am able to absolutely RIP with it. Fast, consistant ropes are easy to accomplish, even though his setup is completely stock. His switch has to be at about 200g while mine is at about 50g, but I can go much faster (easier) with his.


You just answered your own question. You want something you can shoot faster and you know that the TES allows you to shoot faster. If you like his TES get one, if you didn't don't.

[can'tthink of1]

I'm wondering, are you capping out the imagine board? You spyder should blow a TES away, slasher, IS switch, hell, the TES only has the eye and the has a higher cap provided you can shoot faster than 13bps, and thats with a aggitated hopper, then both the TES and Spyder will be the same speed, otherwise your spyder is better.

[SpyderPride]

I have an Egg2, but used to have a Reloader. I would chop a few times each day with the Reloader, but I havent chopped a single time with the Egg. I still cant lay down a consistant rope every time I try to, and with the TES I can.

Im going with the TES. Thank you guys for your input. The only reason I am not going with a BKO is because I cant afford a HPA tank or a Stabilizer.

[can'tthink of1]

Why do you think you can't lay down a stream of paint with the spyder? WHats preventing you from. Mess with the trigger, sometimes a short pull isn't the best for ripping strings of paint. Thats the only reason I can think that the TES is easier to rip on. But anywho, a TES is nice, the trigger was iffy imo, but it needed to be adjusted I think.

[SpyderPride]

Ive tried having the trigger on my Spyder at .5mm, to the length of switch movement, to 1 mm of frontslack. And I still skip shots and cant get a rhythm. Every so often I can get a fast burst, but I cant go right into it on command. That is what I need, and for some reason I can do that with the TES. It must be because of the cap, because it sounds like about 14-15 when I rip on the TES. It sounds really fast, much faster than I can even do in bursts on my Spyder.

Throughout this whole time I wasnt even thinking about the TES's eye. That is just another incentive to pick one up. My buddy says that his works really good.

[commando1]

Get a TES, they run fine on CO2, and my personal experience has been problem free. Half the reason I sold my TES is that it shot so fast with the new switch I put into it, I didn't have enough money to pay for it. If you want a chop-free, FAST gun get a TES,
I HATE SPYDERS

[can'tthink of1]

I guess it is the cap... I can't think of anything else... Thats weird though. I have this angel at a short pull and it doesn't skip a beat. I can only guess it is the cap on the imagine. :|

[Ghost2867]

he may just not like the slasher...

it could be a lot of things.

i'd recommend staying with the spyder, but in the end its ur choice.

[Pyro-Shutter-md]

wow.. i know sumone whos tes got Messed up cuz of co2 real bad

[Ghost2867]

what's wrong wiht co2?

*wihtout directly comparing it to nitro

[AK-FREEDOM]

Co2 has constant jumps while Nitro is more constant along with compressed air, compresed air is a hassel because you have to fill it up like after ever game. depending how much you get filled.

c02- Problems, When turned into gas, its frezes up all the enternals, like o rings, bolt and such. and its not that great to use. has constant Spikes on the Chronagraph

Nitro- No cold air, and is Very constant.

[PeYToN-SS]

Originally posted by Ghost2867

*wihtout directly comparing it to nitro

[cutomcocker1]

well...if you aren't allowed to compare co2 to nitro then what are you supposed compare it too?...:crazy:

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by AK-FREEDOM
Co2 has constant jumps these jumps arent necessarily constant. they're only when the co2 is still somewhat in liquid form. while Nitro is more constant along with compressed air, compresed air is a hassel because you have to fill it up like after ever game. i dont...i get more than 1000 on a full fill...more like 1200 actually. depending how much you get filled.

c02- Problems, When turned into gas, its frezes up all the enternals, like o rings, bolt and such. no, when its turned into gas, that's when its good. its when its not completely turned into gas, or some liquid goes in that ur gun gets messed up. if u have nothing but liquid seeping in, ur gonna have problems like ur gun actually freezing up to the point it wont work until it...thaws. and its not that great to use. i had no major issues with it. has constant Spikes on the Chronagraph get a reg.

Nitro- No cold air, and is Very constant. nitro can be just as inconsistant as co2 if u dont have a good reg. my crossy reg works, but not that well. i was varying quite a bit with my old spyder before i sold it.
:sigh:

there's nothing wrong with using co2 unless the gun cant handle it.

cutom: lol...

[SpyderPride]

I just did a sound test with Goldwave. I was dry firing with CO2, and I was getting 12 bps in fairly decent bursts, but with lots of gaps. I think the gaps are where I am hitting the cap. Ill try to get a sound clip up.

When I was shooting the TES, it sounded faster than what I am able to shoot with my Spyder.

[thunderpig]

Well, then that's probably it.

Buy a T-board or something. It will save you some cash as opposed to buying a TES.

[SpyderPride]

Originally posted by thunderpig
Well, then that's probably it.

Buy a T-board or something. It will save you some cash as opposed to buying a TES.

Actually, it would cost a lot more to get the T-board. If it was cheaper, I would do it.

I will sell the parts to my Spyder for more than $200. I can find a new TES for $160. Ill get the Tigershark bolt and a new duckbill ASA for about $30 combined. I am not losing any money on this deal.

I will be keeping my WGP Ergo regulator for the TES. Is this a good choice?

[[Infusion]BigC]

I realise this is a bit late, but it will make me feel better, so w/e.

Originally posted by SpyderPride


Why do you guys keep recommending a BKO? Ive shot one, and I am not that impressed. A BKO is no better than a TES in these areas: speed, accuracy, consisency. A BKO has less kick than a TES, but Ive found that the kick of my Spyder doesnt bother me much. I can still keep a string within a 1 foot circle from across the field, when I can actually get a string going.

Getting a BKO and a Stabilizer or an Impulse is out of my price range anyway. You guys need to face up to the fact that blowbacks have gotten really good. Not better than low end electos, but at least very close to on par. And cheaper.

Actually, the BKO IS faster than a TES. Also the trigger is an actual micro-switch intead of a STIFF button (I've shot a TES so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about). BKO > TES in reliability also. I've heard and witnessed some real TES horror stories. Cocking issues, springs that need to be trimmed, blown O-Ring everwhere, and don't get me started on Draguns attempt at an "HPR". I have to ask that you NEVER compare a TES to ANY electro ever again.

The TES has nothing but a cheapy eye system over your Spyder. I garuntee you that much.

Originally posted by commando1
get a TES,
I HATE SPYDERS

Yeah down with spyders! GET A SPYDER CLONE!

Seems like you have some real issues man, you may want to look into some counseling.

Originally posted by SpyderPride
I just did a sound test with Goldwave. I was dry firing with CO2, and I was getting 12 bps in fairly decent bursts, but with lots of gaps. I think the gaps are where I am hitting the cap. Ill try to get a sound clip up.

When I was shooting the TES, it sounded faster than what I am able to shoot with my Spyder.

TES's switch make 2 clicks when you pull and release it. The gun doesn't fire twice however. Listening to the switch on the TES, it will sound like your shooting twice as fast as you actually are.

Really, you gain very little, if anything, by switching to a TES.

I'm sorry about your purchase. I wish you the best with it though.

[thunderpig]

Actually, it would cost a lot more to get the T-board. If it was cheaper, I would do it.

I will sell the parts to my Spyder for more than $200. I can find a new TES for $160. Ill get the Tigershark bolt and a new duckbill ASA for about $30 combined. I am not losing any money on this deal.

I will be keeping my WGP Ergo regulator for the TES. Is this a good choice?
Aye, I didn't see you were selling the spyder. In this case, I suppose it would be cheaper.

You could skip on the bolt and just use the stock. A new bolt won't help much IF at all.

I'd keep the ergo. :tup:

[SpyderPride]

Well, I havent bought or sold anything yet.

I was actually dry firing the TES with CO2, and it was really fast. And the eye has worked perfectly for my buddy (no chops yet). And I know how to lighten the switch as much as I want.

Ive been able to fix all the problems with blowbacks that I have ever seen. If something goes wrong with the TES and I am unable to fix it, you have my word that I will post it right here and let you know that I made a bad choice and you were right.

[[Infusion]BigC]

Originally posted by SpyderPride
you have my word that I will post it right here and let you know that I made a bad choice and you were right.

THANKS!

;)

[I.A.O.A.B]

BKO owners unite!!!! BigC=teh ownage on crappy tes's. But seriously, dont compare a spyder-clone to a true electro. Its not even fathomable.. iv'e had one problem with my BKOand it was my (actually my stupid friend's) fault.. i almost blew my solenoid because i had 350-400 psi going into my gun...not cool:mad:.nothing to do with the gun.But, IMO-> BKO's=super fast, super cosistant,light, and downright secks to look at :love:

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by I.A.O.A.B
But seriously, dont compare a spyder-clone to a true electro. :love:

i don't mind the beating up on a clone but that is truly an insult to real elecros everywhere...the BKO is a disgrace to the circuit board...its an electro clone...

[I.A.O.A.B]

as far as i know.. its a knock off of bushies which are indeed electros.. but im done right there... flame wars suck...

[cutomcocker1]

i'm just pointing out that a TES is to a spyder as a BKO is to a bushy...

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by I.A.O.A.B
flame wars suck...
:agree:

[Ghost2867]

LOL cutom...i love that..."electro-clone"...AhhaHAHhaHAhA

i dunno why i find that so funny, but...omg, i cant stop laughing...

[SpyderPride]

im getting a like-new TES off PBN, and the guy says it works great. Still, if I have problems that I cant fix, Ill let you guys know... but if it works perfectly like I predict, I will post that too.

Thanks for everyones input.

[I.A.O.A.B]

Originally posted by cutomcocker1
i'm just pointing out that a TES is to a spyder as a BKO is to a bushy... well uh.... damn you... :pissed: im just saying that with that TES <>spyder BKO<> bushy scenario the BKO is in the long run a better choice than the TES

[Ghost2867]

a bko is an electro-clone. mite as well save up and get an impy or bushy if u ask me

[I.A.O.A.B]

Originally posted by Ghost2867
a bko is an electro-clone. mite as well save up and get an impy or bushy if u ask me thas already been said, ghost...besides, im your impatient like me and cant save 200-300 dollars more for one of them, get a BKO... even if i did hav enough money for one of those... id pick the bushy Edit: 340th post w00t! :party: :banana: :elephant: :pbr:

[thunderpig]

...Yeah.

I change my mind about the whole thing. :dodgy:

Get a TES, and sell your black imagine body to me! I reaaaaaaaaaaaly want it.

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by I.A.O.A.B
thas already been said, ghost...besides, im your impatient like me and cant save 200-300 dollars more for one of them, get a BKO... even if i did hav enough money for one of those... id pick the bushy Edit: 340th post w00t! :party: :banana: :elephant: :pbr:
i know, but i like that...electro-clone...i think that's awesome.

[I.A.O.A.B]

well, i like my electro clone then...its pretty... :love:

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by I.A.O.A.B
well, i like my electro clone then...its pretty... :love:
lol...good luck with it

[impyshmimpy]

My friend shoots a BKO, its pretty nice, except for the fact its called BKO. Every time we see him we say, "Hey, there goes Chris and his Burger King Offensive."

[Ghost2867]

i dont get it...

[I.A.O.A.B]

Originally posted by Ghost2867

lol...good luck with it its shot pretty good so far..lets see what happens in the meantime....ive got team practice tomorrow.. so i should see if shes still workin ( i highly guarntee that it is)

[[Infusion]BigC]

Electro-Clone > Spyder-Clone :P

BKO stands for Benjamin Kare Organisation. Which of course works to keep benjamins in their current pocket (yours) for as long as possible while still letting you get an uber nice marker. :D

[commando1]

Well I liked my TES way more than any spyder I have ever shot (and I have shot VERY many spyders) but in all honesty if you want a faster tes just get a lighter switch on ebay from pipemaster for $5.50 shipped and there you go, you can shoot as fast as any impulse and just as well if not better for much less money, but in all honesty just get a Phantom VSC, they Kick F**king A**!!!

[[Infusion]BigC]

Originally posted by commando1
Well I liked my TES way more than any spyder I have ever shot (and I have shot VERY many spyders) but in all honesty if you want a faster tes just get a lighter switch on ebay from pipemaster for $5.50 shipped and there you go, you can shoot as fast as any impulse and just as well if not better for much less money, but in all honesty just get a Phantom VSC, they Kick F**king A**!!!

At first I almost took this seriously.

Then I saw who posted it.

[commando1]

You know, I love my Phantom more than any gun I have owned or shot, it is my opinion, and you probably have not even shot one. If you did, you probably weren't good at it so you don't have any thing nice to say in regard to them. If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.
Anyone who plays paintball is a friend of mine so, w/e bro.

If you saw me play wih my Phantom you would see why, there is nothing quite like taking someone out shooting a expensive shiny marker with a pump gun, it's a great feeling.
Peace,
-Roger B.

PS it was a good idea to right the first few lines in your sig.

[I.A.O.A.B]

i respect SC'ers but, im kinda sick of people saying that "i can hit you with my phantom when you have your shiny electros"...yeah great.. and i can hit you with mustard when you have your flashy red ketchup.. no offense man, but im tired of hearing it

[thunderpig]

Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC


At first I almost took this seriously.

Then I saw who posted it.
It's not the same commando. :o

[Ghost2867]

lol...everyone hates comando...

[Spyderlover120]

Originally posted by SpyderPride
I need to stay with something that can use CO2, because I cant afford an HPA tank.





well if you need to stick with co2 then why are you about to spend enough to get nitro on a new gun? just get a new board for your imagine

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by commando1
You know, I love my Phantom more than any gun I have owned or shot, it is my opinion, and you probably have not even shot one. If you did, you probably weren't good at it so you don't have any thing nice to say in regard to them. If you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all.
Anyone who plays paintball is a friend of mine so, w/e bro.

If you saw me play wih my Phantom you would see why, there is nothing quite like taking someone out shooting a expensive shiny marker with a pump gun, it's a great feeling.
Peace,
-Roger B.

PS it was a good idea to right the first few lines in your sig.
i agree with IAOAB...i like phantoms, and i like ppl who play stock-class well, but still...they're all getting arrogant now.

[I.A.O.A.B]

Originally posted by Ghost2867

i agree with IAOAB...i like phantoms, and i like ppl who play stock-class well, but still...they're all getting arrogant now.hoo rah! so not to make this post all spam, i think, if you lik electros fine good be happy, but if you like SC, great! go for it.. but stop bashing eachother!!

[wanabe TOSA]

SC suks!

lol jp
but no wonder u went to stock - you were shooting a sypder!

real men shoot angels
(thats right i said it)

[commando1]

I was shooting a TES before that I shot a Phantom (non-SC) before that I shot my friends autococker/ and my Armotech Mars LT, this is my 4th gun. You can call me arrogant you can call all SC players arrogant but it doesn't mean you are right and secondly we are tired of you guys always saying Phantoms suck, well just because you can wiggle your fingers faster, or that you spent your income on a Paintball gun doesn't mean you are better. Well I guess flaming is un-avoidable, why can't we all just......get along.

What do you mean "its not the same commando"?

[nos911]

There was/still is a guy with the name "commando" to and he kinda got on a few people's nerves.

It's irrelevant now, but Impulse's can only work with A/S CO2. It'd work like crap with regular CO2. The Max-Flo works incredibly well with A/S CO2, however.

[wanabe TOSA]

phantoms suck!

but really tho, even tho my gun costs about 5x more than urs i will still flat out own you anyday 1v1 - go back to woodsball an aromotechs noob

[comando345]

Originally posted by Ghost2867
lol...everyone hates comando...

Well... not everyone!

Just lots of people.

Greetings to the new commando! There is a guy at my field who plays with an old sheridan pump, he can destroy experienced players with fancy electros. After all, he has been playing non-stop since the beginning of paintball or at least close to it. Phantoms don't suck, just some people who use them.

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by nos911
There was/still is a guy with the name "commando" to and he kinda got on a few people's nerves.

It's irrelevant now, but Impulse's can only work with A/S CO2. It'd work like crap with regular CO2. The Max-Flo works incredibly well with A/S CO2, however.
that doesnt matter...the co2 coming out of an a/s'd tank is the same as the co2 coming out of a syphon tank. the only difference is, the a/s delays the point in time when ur shooting a rope that liquid will start seeping into ur gun.

nos911: he hasnt pissed ppl off lately

[commando1]

W/e dudes, feel free to say what you want, I am out numbered, start an official thread, and I would be happy to continue this.

[[Infusion]BigC]

Originally posted by thunderpig

It's not the same commando. :o

whoops, my bad.

I'm gonna save that one for when I see the other commando posts next though, cuase I quite liked it :D

commando1, I wasn't putting down phantoms, I was commenting on hwow you suggested that a TES w/ just a new switch would compaire with an electro. Your example stock Impulse still has the TES beat, and the Impulse is about the worst stock electro you can get for the money.

[commando1]

Alright man, peace
I sold my Tes anyway

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC


whoops, my bad.

I'm gonna save that one for when I see the other commando posts next though, cuase I quite liked it :D

commando1, I wasn't putting down phantoms, I was commenting on hwow you suggested that a TES w/ just a new switch would compaire with an electro. Your example stock Impulse still has the TES beat, and the Impulse is about the worst stock electro you can get for the money.
are u kidding? at $550, the vision impy is a great buy

[dog-of-Dislexia]

I'm not going to read through these 4 pages, I'm just going to say get a TES.

[[Infusion]BigC]

Originally posted by Ghost2867

are u kidding? at $550, the vision impy is a great buy

not when you can get a B2K4 w/ PDS for $575.

That's everything the Imp offers
+Better anti-chop
+Fade ano
+Nice milling
+Blade Trigger
+LPR
+No FSDO

for $25 more... yeah

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC


not when you can get a B2K4 w/ PDS for $575.

That's everything the Imp offers
+Better anti-chop meh...vision is good enough for me
+Fade ano true, but still...unless it were a red/black, id get plain black anyway...haha
+Nice milling personally, i think imps look good anyway even though they're so plain
+Blade Trigger personally, i can work with both...this in particular is too much of a preference thing to matter.
+LPR yea...bushy owns the imp there
+No FSDO this isnt so much a problem anymore

for $25 more... yeah
but overall, yea...a bushy is a much better buy

[[Infusion]BigC]

Oops. Forgot to mention the trigger is adjustable 4-ways. HArr, take that stock Impulse trigger that is teh cheap!

And the bushy is quite a bit lighter too.

Oh and a delrin bolt on the bushy.

lol, there's probably more.

Anyways, I don't much like stock Imps. They somehow donn't seem like you're really getting what you paid for. :|

:D

[Pyro-Shutter-md]

bushy > what ever else was said in this thread.. iono bout phantoms so dont flame me..

o yea.. u can get a one color bushy 04 for i think 479? with pds!! cuz thats what im gettin:D

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC
Oops. Forgot to mention the trigger is adjustable 4-ways. HArr, take that stock Impulse trigger that is teh cheap!

And the bushy is quite a bit lighter too.

Oh and a delrin bolt on the bushy.

lol, there's probably more.

Anyways, I don't much like stock Imps. They somehow donn't seem like you're really getting what you paid for. :|

:D
haha...yea...i havent tried the new bushies yet...but i got to fool around with a few impys...trigger's not bad at all.

im not sure about weight, but yea...i can imagine it being lighter.

im sure the impy comes with a delron bolt as well.

i think i'd get a bushy too...except i really really really want a strange impy for no real rational reason at all...i just fell in love with it...:confused: