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in trauma
11-18-2001, 04:18 PM
Wll i know a bit about mags i just have some questions

I will be using a 20oz anit siphon tank i kno whte stock valve donest have good recharge and it is horid with rapid fire and co2 so which aftermarket valve should i get to shoot out good 3-4rd burst when i pop out?

also which feed body for a guy who likes to shoot upright and horizontaly left and right mostly right and not have feeding problems while shooting 3-4rd bursts horizontaly

i am a mid to front player so whichsetup should i have a gas thru grip in a VA or an extension bar liek in this one
http://www.h2overclocking.com/images/paintball/mymagnew.jpg

and anyhting else you think i should know like buy new or used package off ebay or build one?

mInImAg169
11-18-2001, 05:24 PM
Any mag valve you buy will suck with co2. You need an x=chamber, and nitro as sonn as possible. Play for a couple weeks with co2, then one day, it'll freeze up, and you'll want nitro, what happened to me. get a gas threw. extensions look stupid(haha campbell, j/k) inside joke..............never eg ta side or vert feed mag, always powerfeed, no matter how u shoot.

Vaypourus
11-18-2001, 05:40 PM
How much money do you have to spend? That picture is prolly a $600-800 dollar automag. That is the retro valve in the picture...can only be used with HPA/nitro. A stock automag valve has pretty good recharge...I don't know who told you otherwise. I have seen footage of a stock valve shotting 16 bps with no shootdown...that seems like pretty good recharge to me:D. Keep the valve stock! To run a mag on CO2, you really need a good expansion chamber...do some research on price. If you are gonna buy a lot of money on a good gun anyways, spend the extra and get a nitro tank. If you twist the gun alot while firing, you might want to possibly consider a warp feed. Ask Halladay (the moderator...he just got one). I would suggest buying a nice powerfeed mag off ebay, then customizing it to your specs.

Halliday
11-18-2001, 07:29 PM
20oz co2 anti-syphon/ new valve: Don't waste your $$ on any new aftermarket valve. Read the FAQ.

Feed: Are you left or right handed? You'll want the hopper being on the opposite side of you shooting hand (Left handed=right side hopper) Most ppl come out on their strong side.

Grip: Try it out w/o the extension first. You can always add it and just get a new, longer hose.

Grab one used off Ebay. There are some great deals there.

in trauma
11-19-2001, 11:36 AM
so i should get hoper right power feed because i am a righty

also i will never use nitro it is a waste IMO also i get my co2 free

i will most likely get an automag with stock everyhting VA 2-4 stage x-chamebr and put a custom drop on it

also are tirgger jobs easy to do? and is shortstroking easy to do at first? like with cockers

also why do you all say nitro mags werent designed for it only the RT is

Vaypourus
11-19-2001, 12:23 PM
The way the RT Pro, the RT and Retro Valve must have nitro/HPA to run. They will not run on CO2, and the carbon dioxide will damage the internals. Mags simply do not like liquid CO2 inside(like any other gun), but will run fine if a good tank and expansion chamber are used....also, nitro is not a waste. If you have ever run nitro on a mag, you will know why so many people use it.

PiranhaAquaPhaze
11-19-2001, 04:47 PM
if u are that ignorant and wont run nitro??y do u want a mag?pretty much all hig end guns need nitro if u want to get the best out of it, consistency + reliability

Echo
11-19-2001, 05:27 PM
for a 68 mag classic p/f will nitro ruin the valve or anything? im prolly getting nitro tank soon but if i need to run co2 anytime will it be okay?

Vaypourus
11-19-2001, 05:53 PM
as I wrote in earlier post:

CO2 on a mag will run fine if you have a good expansion chamber to turn the liquid CO2 into gaseous CO2. The only time that CO2 can hurt a valve is if liquid gets into the valve. With a good anti-syphen tank and expansion chamber, you will be okay.

A mag will run better on a nitrogen. It will not harm the internals at all. You will like the way the gun runs on nitro; it is smoother, more consistant, and cheaper in the long run.

Shifty Capone
11-19-2001, 06:08 PM
hahah trauma i remeber when you were gettin a new barrel for ur m98 hahaha nice to see ur makin the jump too good buddy!