lpr's for the Impulse are a waste of $$.

[slushii]

Ok, before I get flamed let me explain.
Yes LPR's are great parts and they work really well and help with your Impulse's efficiency. But for the money you pay they are not worth it. Why?

IMO Why pay $80-$100 for a LPR when you can get a $25 tape worm and some new internals which will increase efficiency AND lower kick? Yes a LPR will be even more efficient but if you get alot of new internals(rat factory kit) Your gun will still be SUPER efficient with a tapeworm and will be less money. How much efficiency do you really need? Besides LPR's make it harder to adjust your velocity and just look sort of clunky. So for what little they do I dont think they are worth the money.

Best Impulse set-up for the money
-NDZ Blade
-Rat factory kit
-WAS
-Nice large bore barrle
-Tape worm(or other iso mod)
-Low rise feed neck
Super fast, super efficient, no chops, no barrle breaks, no bolt stick, close to no kick. What more can you ask for? More efficiency? Not really needed.

[AMGMASTER1]

meh...i love my lpr, whatever u have a good point but ur internals like a rat fac kit is over 100 plus 25 for a tapeworm...i see ur point though but i like its look and it increases ur guns value...and think if u had both up'd internals and an lpr how sweet would that be??!!!

[slushii]

You really dont need that kind of efficency. And all new internals+ a worm are better than a lpr...because
a) They make your gun super efficient
b) The internals are better for your gun (less wear)
c) Less kick with lighter parts.
d) your gun will be a little quiter

Now all a Lpr does is add a little efficiency and stop bolt stick.

Like I said its a good part...It just costs to much.

[impulse1013]

sorry to be off topic but what would be better to by with a 110 dollars a rat factory kit or a lpr?

[slushii]

Jebus...The Rat Factory kit.

[SuperBeaner]

With the LPR, you can also lower the operating pressure of the internals. This means that you won't chop as much. My pulse is at 70 psi and it won't hurt my finger. you also can't set up your impulse to a higher valve pressure without an LPR making your gun more efficient.
My gun has up'ed internals and an LPR, great efficiency, and yes, it's worth it.

[sweathogs]

Before I got the equalizer board and NDZ/ANS LPR I was chopping all the time. Paint was oozing from the detents. I even found a small piece of paintshell in my valve.

I think an LPR is worth it. That alone could have prevented the chopping problem.

[Awhislyle]

well if youi eant the best performnce, the lpr IS worth it

[AMGMASTER1]

yea dude seriously.....

[slushii]

Like I said. If you can afford it/have the money to blow...go for it. Because yes it does do pretty good. But only get a LPR...after new internals. Only put a LPR on the best of Impulses. Because I see kids at the field with all stock internals but a LPR. WTF?

[SuperBeaner]

An LPR will still help out a marker with stock internals, if you don't believe me, put your stock parts back in your gun and keep the LPR. You'll still have excellent efficiency, more so than if you took the LPR off and put aftermarket parts on. Aftermarket parts do help a lot more, only if they're well balances though. if you're internals are too heavy, you can't lower your cocking pressure. If they're too light, you can't lower your dwell.
My Internals rock, my LPR rocks, and soon, my milling will rock.

[Hyperballin]

I heard lprs could cause problems when shooting heavy streams of paint?

[IwAnNaShOoTyOu]

Originally posted by slushii
Ok, before I get flamed let me explain.
Yes LPR's are great parts and they work really well and help with your Impulse's efficiency. But for the money you pay they are not worth it. Why?

IMO Why pay $80-$100 for a LPR when you can get a $25 tape worm and some new internals which will increase efficiency AND lower kick? Yes a LPR will be even more efficient but if you get alot of new internals(rat factory kit) Your gun will still be SUPER efficient with a tapeworm and will be less money. How much efficiency do you really need? Besides LPR's make it harder to adjust your velocity and just look sort of clunky. So for what little they do I dont think they are worth the money.

Best Impulse set-up for the money
-NDZ Blade
-Rat factory kit
-WAS
-Nice large bore barrle
-Tape worm(or other iso mod)
-Low rise feed neck
Super fast, super efficient, no chops, no barrle breaks, no bolt stick, close to no kick. What more can you ask for? More efficiency? Not really needed.
:nod:

[nos911]

Reasons to buy an LPR:

1) More flexibility to setup your Impulse
2) Better efficiency
3) Less chops (not as much as advertised, but still helps)

Most of the time new internals are not even needed on an Impulse. The stock internals work fine for me. Jesus, you all sound like the people int he Spyder forum wanting new internals before they even try out their Impulse! Good god, all you really need is a delrin bolt and maybe even a Ti bolt pin. Let the people shoot their Impulses and learn about them before they change everything. Good God, I mean, people come in here and they ask what their first upgrade should be and some idiots scream out "Rat Factory Kit!" before they even know how their Impulse works! Internals are not a must-need thing on an Impulse. Unless one of your internals breaks beyond compare, don't get new internals. SP ships the marker with working internals that get the gun 800-900 shots off of a 68/3k tank. That's better efficiency than a $825 DYE Matrix WITHOUT an after-market bolt kit. Granted its not the best efficiency, but it's better than most markers out there under $500. Ask Dr. J (since some of you won't listen to me) what internals he uses. He still uses some of the stock ones. And you KNOW he sets up his Impulse for maximum performance/efficiency.

I know some of you all aren't even going to take the time to read all of that, so me typing that out was basically pointless. :rolleyes:

[holy_imagine151]

nice point you got there too, Nos

[nos911]

Originally posted by holy_imagine151
nice point you got there too, Nos
LPR's on Impulse's aren't a necessity either. They're better on higher end markers. But by no means are they a waste of money. But they aren't really NEEDED. I just have mine because I bought the SLP from EPBO.

What I said was basically a rant on why people should stop saying "Buy the Rat Factory Kit" as a person's first upgrade.

Edit: I just saw this:
Originally posted by slushii

More efficiency? Not really needed.
Efficiency not really needed? Now the only exception to what I said in my drawn out post is for people who absolutely NEED the best efficiency. Say, woodsballers, scenario people, or people who don't have access to a fill place easily. Then, efficiency would matter a lot because you would need the maximum shots out of your tank. Then, I would consider ND internals. But most people with Impulses play speedball and don't really need the new internals, because a fill station is easily accessible.

[piranha e-force]

of course efficiency isn't needed, of course nothing is needed. as long as you have a gun and yer having fun.

see these parts are a necessity for some people. like me, i only have a 48 cu inch 3000 psi tank. and i need all the shots i can get. bigger tanks just take up the money.

[slushii]

I still have stock internals...I just think a Rat factory kit is a better investment than a LPR. And really...you dont need to upgrade anything on a Impulse(unless you really hate the stock trigger) Its works fine all stock. Sure all these upgrades people put on them make the Impulse even better...but some cost alot of money, and my view is, If you are going to drop tons of money into a Pulse...why not get a new gun. A Impulse is a great mid end electro. But I dont see the point in dumping hundreds and hundreds of dollars into them when you could just sell it and buy a better gun.

[Esprit_inCANADA]

Upgrading your impulse is a decision only the owner can make. Mine for example rips crazy and I love my gun and I don't really plan on upgrading it much more then it is now. Look at strange....sure they have nice impulses but the internals in them are practically stock (with the exception of the lpr) and they could kick any of our asses in paintball. Seeing people show up at the feild with a super gun and no skill makes me angry I say spend the money on paint and play as much as you can. Skill should always come before your gun. As long as you keep your impulse in excellent condition it will treat you good.

[ikey]

if you are a tounament player, or have the earge to upgrade your gun 100%, then get one, but by all means get internals first. do anything you can to get those stock internals out of there. after you get the internals upgraded, then get an lpr.

[nos911]

Originally posted by Esprit_inCANADA
Look at strange....sure they have nice impulses but the internals in them are practically stock (with the exception of the lpr) and they could kick any of our asses in paintball.

Strange uses Strange Shockers. ;)