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Exit Woundz
11-20-2001, 03:11 PM
Post pros, cons, and reasons.

pr0kch0p
11-20-2001, 03:51 PM
Timmy

i am in a similar position

i went over the cost of a stock cocker and all the stuff i NEEDED (new barrel, metal grip frame, etc) and the timmy came out to be slightly more expensive ($50 or so) but then again the timmy has a lifetime warranty, is electonic, has an ACE.

its the best value out there.

magicsly1
11-20-2001, 04:45 PM
I would have to say the cocker. It is completely mechanical so you don't have to worry about electronics. Cockers are one of the most upgradable guns on the market and one of the most precise. With a cocker you can have the precision of a pump with the rof of a semi. If you want to increase your rof get a hinge trigger. There are a bunch to choose from. Since a cocker is completely mechanical anything you break can usually be fixed on the spot. Once you figure out how a cocker works (which you will find isn't complicated at all) they are easy to work on and maintain. Cockers are known for their precission and trajectory. But your list is mostly personal preference. These are just some reasons why you should get the cocker. Here are some other things to look at if you want one of the other guns:

Timmy's have the cool options of semi, full auto, burst, etc. They have an antichop eye and are pretty cool looking.

Impy is good if you don't want all of those options and just a good electronic semi gun for a great price. My friend is thinking about getting one of these. Look at www.hypersportworks.com and they will give you some great deals on making am impy for you.

Mags-i don't relaly like them. I played on a team that had 2 people with mags on them and all they did was break paint. One mag was a 94 and the other was like 2k or 2k1, something like that.

Bushy- like impys. Sinsitive (sp?) triggers and a very nice electro.

Defiants- I have a friend that has one and he hates it. He wants to get rid of it buy no one wants it.

Hope this helped.

dropkick
11-20-2001, 07:16 PM
Have you thought about a used Angel? Used, an Angel is absolutley the best gun you can get in the price range. You dont have to worry about ANYTHING with an Angel...just turn it on and aim.

VeNoM
11-20-2001, 07:29 PM
thats not always true, there are things that can go wrong on an angel. i have seen a few angels go down and the owners usually have no idea what the hell to do. my vote went to the timmi, it has a nice ACE, 3-way adjustable trigger, fairly low opperating pressure, and looks sweeet. it would be between that and the cocker, and it depends wheter you want an electro or mechanical gun. . .

KOTOWA
11-20-2001, 07:40 PM
WTF is an ACE?

Id go for cocker, no doubt about it

It is the tourney gun, also the angel is too, but you will see mostly cockers at a tourney. It can be milled to look as sweet as britney, but as light as feathersoft panties. It is so upgradable. And you can say, SUCK MAH COCKA!

VeNoM
11-20-2001, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by KOTOWA
WTF is an ACE?



ACE = Anti-Chop Eye

in the timmi there are 2 little lazers than sense if there is a ball completely in the breech before allowing it to fire, so it is basically impossible to chop. the vizion imp has an ACE too, but only has one lazer or "eye"

KOTOWA
11-20-2001, 07:53 PM
K, I know what the eye is, but I didnt know what Ace stood for. Thx.

Siege
11-20-2001, 10:33 PM
Wut really is the difference between a B2K2 and a Timmy? Because if u get a timmy u get a forgrip which teh Bushy has. And if u have a bushy u can get a ACE. Also which has a higher BPS? Which has the higher burst fires and who has the most modes?

Peace out.... :)

pr0kch0p
11-21-2001, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by Siege
Wut really is the difference between a B2K2 and a Timmy? Because if u get a timmy u get a forgrip which teh Bushy has. And if u have a bushy u can get a ACE. Also which has a higher BPS? Which has the higher burst fires and who has the most modes?

Peace out.... :)

this humored me. i am pretty sure ive read that people at Delta (bob long's company) say that the timmy is the bushmaster/defiant with all the kinks worked out. but here are some similarities first.

- electro
- LCD (on the b2k2)
- 3 way adjustable trigger
- LPR
- works on dip switches

not sure about the internals, but those are pretty much the only similarities i can think of. the bushmaster is very compact, i didnt like this aspect, it was hard for me to hold. the timmy is more stretched out, feel is similar to cockers i think. the timmy comes stock with an ACE, while a bushy you would have to send your marker in to get one. the bushy comes stock with a delrin bolt, while you would have to buy one for a timmy.

the list could go on forever. have you seen pictures of them? there are many obvious differences that can be seen just from the outside.

i dont really see how you possibly could think that they are so similar.

VeNoM
11-21-2001, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by pr0kch0p



- 3 way adjustable trigger


the bushy's trigger only has 2 adjustments, firing point and length. the timmi has firing point, length, and stiffness adjustments. if you wanted to set up bushy with an ACE it would cost alot more than the timmi, since you would have to send it to DCP, get a new board then get the eye installed. it would end up being alot more than the timmi and there would still only be one eye, unlike the timmis 2 eyes.

Siege
11-21-2001, 09:59 AM
Well if the timmi has as much and more then the bushy why is the bushy as expensive? In other words why the hell is teh timmi so god damn cheap,? makes me think its a platic peice of crap or sumthin...

Thank...(just trying to get educated here)
Peace out.... :)

VeNoM
11-21-2001, 02:50 PM
well when they first came out they were like $700-$800 but recently the prices have been dropping on them alot, they are now about $600, which is $150 more than a bushy. the bushy prices have dropped alot too . . .

Omega6_Virus
11-21-2001, 06:26 PM
I like bushmasters, but I think the LCD version from ICD is not worth it. Many people who own them don't think it was worth it and get different LCDs put on such as grip frame ones and I have seen on with a timmy LCD and board.
My Vote goes to Timmy. Its worth it. And as for worrying about the electronics, yeah it can be a deal at first, but get the dip switches set and you'll never worry about it. Cockers you need to be a mechanic. Timmy you need to be an electriction.(im just blabbin) but you need brains for either gun.
I was going to get a cocker but the price is high for after market stuff. Sure you can make a totally personal cocker that not many other people will have the same config. The timy shoots nice stock. The ACE is wonderful. I have never broken paint except one time when I turned it off to dry fire the gun before a game and forgot to put it back on. That was only one ball too.

Exit Woundz
11-21-2001, 06:30 PM
ActionVillage.com:
Impulse - $399.49
Autococker - $329.99

888Paintball.com:
Defiant - $549.88
Intimidator - $588.88
LCD Bushmaster - $549.88

If you know any places cheaper, please tell me. I'm thinking about going with a used Angel ..

Exit Woundz
11-21-2001, 06:32 PM
How well do Timmys shoot through ball breaks?

dropkick
11-21-2001, 07:37 PM
Originally posted by Exit Woundz
How well do Timmys shoot through ball breaks?

Timmys don't break paint, due to the ACE. In the instance of a barrel break, it all depends on the barrel.