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[falcon2ko]

I'm the first to post a non sticky here!I didnt even know some of armo's guns were still made.

[hybrid-sniper]

Your also the first one to spam up this forum, congratulations.

Armotech has been having some big legal lawsuit over their name with another Armotech, which surprised me to see that this forum was made.
Yes armotech guns are still being made, they're mainly bought by mil sim scenario people and new players looking for something that looks like a real gun.
Just a spyder with plastic molded on it.

[amzng_spyderman]

the lawsuit is over, and the other company became ariakon (see above forum). they're the ones who make the sim4 and whatnot.

[Childe_Beefy]

Armotech markers are NOT fancy spyders. They're a STBB, yes. They use a spyder cupseal. They DO NOT use spyder barrels. They DO NOT use spyder bolts. They DO NOT use spyder feednecks. I've sure as hell never seen a spyder that looked anything like a Zeus. They are their own company. Don't criticize the damn marker if you've never used it. Don't be a fanboy.

[gdog5]

I use spyder parts on my zues......

[Childe_Beefy]

What parts did you use?

[gdog5]

just the valve, cup seal, spring, and pin....aka valve assembly.

[Childe_Beefy]

Hmm...I didn't know the valve assembly would work on the zeus. That's good to know.

[gdog5]

Yea i did the otters valve pin mod and ive had good results with it over the stock armotech valve. I think one could get away with using a kingman striker too. Ill have to check into that.

[Robotech]

Oh, and regardless of what people tell you they are not a spyder with "a bunch of plastic on it". The clip, not plastic. The center of the stock, not plastic. The R.I.S. handgaurds, not plastic. cocking lever (WS66), not plastic. Flash surpressor...not plastic, Barrel extension, not plastic.

[gdog5]

Originally posted by Robotech
Oh, and regardless of what people tell you they are not a spyder with "a bunch of plastic on it". The clip, not plastic. The center of the stock, not plastic. The R.I.S. handgaurds, not plastic. cocking lever (WS66), not plastic. Flash surpressor...not plastic, Barrel extension, not plastic.

How bout a spyder with "a bunch of crap in general thrown on it".

[Robotech]

Only if it can be said that a Spyder is nothing more than a cheap version of a WS-66 with nothing on it. (nevermind that most of the internals are not compatable with Spyder parts and none of the externals would work on a Spyder...except the barrel of a WG-65 perhaps)

After all, by that definition any and all blow back markers are nothing but a Spyder with a bunch of crap thrown on.

Oh, and before you go on about saying how all that stuff on the other high end markers are there for a purpose...the same goes for my WS-66...

[gdog5]

whats the difference between the ws and the wg series.

[Robotech]

Internals are identical. Big differences are the following:

1. Hop up barrel. Backspins the ball using airpressure resulting in range equal to or greater than a Tippman Flatline but with increased accuracy at those ranges.

2. Strip Pin assembly. The barrel, stock, and velocity adjuster assembly are all held in place with strip pins. The barrel has a screw that clamps the receiver down around the barrel and prevents wobble. The Stock also has a retaining ring for the same reason.

3. Top cocking lever. (Also on the SIM-4). This lever adds realism to the marker and also serves to keep dirt out of the internals.

4. Clip Kit/bottom line. Available for the WG series, the WS-66 comes with this already installed. Much more friendly for most players rather than having the bottle under the barrel like a M203 grenade launcher.

Both markers are rather robust and hold up well under abuse. They are similar to Tippmans in that regard. My marker has had three broken balls (one from the ball detent not being set properly the other two when I ran low on CO2 and the bolt chopped them in half.), and one broken o-ring in the remote line adaptor (I gunked it when threading it in). I've shot 5000 round through it, have fallen on it, crawled through some of the finest, sandiest silt you've ever seen and have even piled decaying tree matter on it...never had an issue.

[nahthan]

Originally posted by Robotech
Only if it can be said that a Spyder is nothing more than a cheap version of a WS-66 with nothing on it.
How 'bout the spyder came before the Armotech, and therefore, we call them both pirhana's.

Falcon, thanks for the spam, btw.

[Robotech]

Originally posted by nahthan

How 'bout the spyder came before the Armotech, and therefore, we call them both pirhana's.

Falcon, thanks for the spam, btw.

Then wouldn't that be a V[X]-68 clone? :D

(Can't remember the second letter there...)

[Childe_Beefy]

If you call an Armo a clone of anything, think the VM-68/PMI-3. Both are STBB, and both use the same threads.

[Robotech]

Thanks Beefy, that's the marker I was thinking of...VM-68...thought it was M but wasn't sure.

[Childe_Beefy]

Yeah. It's amazing how people seem to forget that a spyder wasn't the first good STBB when they want to diss one, isn't it?

[Pistolero2112]

Don't you think this really looks like spyder? I sure do......











:eek:

[SickMuffins]

If it does, it's the nicest Spyder I've ever seen.

[Robotech]

Originally posted by Pistolero2112
Don't you think this really looks like spyder? I sure do......
:eek:

I guess...

If you have ever seen a spyder with a 10 round, spring feed, parrellel mag and that runs off a 12 Gram...and that has a 1" barrel extension...oh...and the exposed bolt too...

[Childe_Beefy]

robo, you missed the /sarcasm.

[fartface]

So Armotech's take the same threads as a VM-68, would that meen I could get one of thoes barrels with the fancy M16 style grip for my VM-68?

[fartface]

Heres a better picture.

[Childe_Beefy]

If it's for the 65, then, yes, the barrels should work. It's a large-bore barrel, so you'll want some big paint.

[fartface]

The vm68 stock barrel loves the zap paintballs Ive yet to see it brake one.

[SickMuffins]

I don't think it will work with the CO2 directly underneath the barrel like that. It doesn't look like there's any room between the barrel and the tank. Even with a remote, it'll be a tight fit.

[fartface]

Yah I had to buy a remote because they didn't make pure energy tanks that would fit on it and I didn't want to buy anymore of thoes expensive crap brass eagle ones where the pin always gets stuck and doesn't let the gass out unless you poke at it for like 15 minutes. I think I could cut a bit off of the grip to make it fit.

[SickMuffins]

That sucks, but I bet the VM looks awesome with the WG barrel on it. I'm trying to find a way to mount the WG sight rail onto my P68 :D

[fartface]

Originally posted by SickMuffins
That sucks, but I bet the VM looks awesome with the WG barrel on it. I'm trying to find a way to mount the WG sight rail onto my P68 :D
Whats a P68?

[SickMuffins]

You own a VM-68, but you don't know what a P68 is? Oh well, here's (http://haveblue.org/armory/p68-sc697703835.jpg) a picture of one.

[fartface]

Oh one of thoes things ok.

[falcon2ko]

I come back 2 months some days to this section of the forum and see my spam thread still kickin.Guess perhaps it was purposeful after all...

by the way my nephew recently bought a very nice armo mil sim gun and i have to say that thing is pretty darn cool.Anyways happy posting:agree: