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PB ninja
03-15-2001, 08:02 PM
How plausable is it to build a mag from scratch? If I buy a powerfeed body, aftermarket trigger assembly/frame, splash kit (body rail, sight rail foregrip etc.), bottomline, valve, bolt, and barrel are there any things that are left out? I think that would be a cool project, and I did some math and it really wouldn't cost much more then a stock mag powerfeed.

Halliday
03-15-2001, 08:25 PM
Actually it is cheaper in the long run to just buy a Mag already put together.

Did you remember the trigger pin? $5. Back screw? $9. Sear? $25. Sear pin? $4.

Just the valve alone is $350. Add the standard grey PF breech body $135. Benchy 2x trigger $60. I have no idea how much a splash kit costs...

You probally need a barrel too.

Just buy one already together. They when you get another Mag you can swap parts between them.

Creek
03-16-2001, 03:17 AM
Buy a used gun from someone and then build it up from there.It cost alot more to build one up even if you found a powerfeed for 85 bucks it still cost more.a-mag 68 is around 229 to 300 bucks depends where you buy. With a power feed its 329 or a little more or less. barrel is 45 too about 109 bucks but you got too buy one anyway you go.

PB ninja
03-16-2001, 11:25 AM
I found a black teflon powerfeed body for about 87$ @ bbt, and a complete trigger w/ internals for about 85$. There are dozens of valves out there, for 350$ I could get the retro valve but I don't really want one (I heard that it wears the sear down quickly), most of the valve assemblies I was looking at cost around 50$. Ans bolt for 40, barrel for 50 (also doesn't come with a stock mag), bottomline for 12, microline kit for 15. Then all that I really need (as far as I know) is a body rail which is included in the splash kits I saw for 99 but it would probably be cheaper to buy one individually. I'm quite sure it's cheaper to buy a stock mag but this way it would be completely custom, plus i could tell people I built it;).

[Edited by PB ninja on 03-16-2001 at 03:28 PM]

Smalls
03-21-2001, 04:25 PM
My friend and I built a cocker from scratch. It cost us a total of 75 a piece and we sold it for 600. We had or got the parts used. That is the way to do it. Unless you have a very large amount of money to buy all the high end parts.

By the way this is my first post....be gentle

Richy_C
03-22-2001, 05:56 PM
109 pf body
100 splash kit
350 RT
70 DYE trigger frame
110 Boomstick
50 air adapters and crap
789, yikes

elTwitcho
03-28-2001, 05:03 AM
Retro valve doesnt wear down the sear, that's the reactive trigger. I'll never understand why people think they're one and the same thing. YOu need the retro valve to get a reactive trigger, but the retro valve is the fastest recharging valve on the market available for the mag, and that's it's big selling point

Richy_C
03-28-2001, 06:54 AM
the RT is Hp so u need thicker balls though

Jordan
03-31-2001, 08:26 AM
what are u talkin bout richy? thicker balls? why would you need thicker balls?

Halliday
03-31-2001, 04:06 PM
I think the Rt and regular Mag are both "HP" running about 800psi. Actually I think the RT can run a little lower due to the trigger reaction. Check the Automag forum at paintballdojo.

Creek
03-31-2001, 04:40 PM
I was running my RT between 650 and 750 psi most of the time

Halliday
03-31-2001, 07:34 PM
Dude, I wonder if anybody is reading this anymore. Is it just us two talking about Mags? ;)

Creek
04-01-2001, 04:32 AM
I think we are the only ones now :)

Halliday
04-01-2001, 06:22 PM
Oh well. I didn't use my Mag today. I just installed a 2x trigger on my Shocker on Sat and I had to try it out. Noting like battle-testing to see if the set screws are adjusted right.

They weren't, but they should be now. It was funny to watch everybody at the field cringe when I started to take apart my Shocker. "He going to do that here?!?"

Yep, and tuned my trigger to the pull of a mouse click.

Oh, and yeah....don't build a mag from scratch!