Nerve starting to ship soon.

[slushii]

Yes thats right folks the nerve will start shipping out in about a week or so.

http://www.68caliber.com/news/industry/story04301.php

[AR55 MtM]

w00t 04 shockers

[Downfall08]

fugly IMHO

[Danman69]

such hype, its so overpriced for what you get.

[PbAllWiZZ]

Eric, whats the MSRP?

[slushii]

Not really sure. But from what I'm hearing its going to be like 1100-1300. I really have no clue though.

[sIc]

Its going to be about 1500 with a max flow tank and about 1300 without. Ill confirm the exact pricing in just a second.

Edit: 1500 W/ Tank, 1200 without. Red for the first batch, then blue and pewter after that. Comes with some kind of special feedneck, and has 4 firing modes, 1 regular, and 3 ramping. Found this out through rich from punishers, which is within driving distance of smart parts in PA, so he knows what hes talkin about.

I really dont think this is going to be overrated from what ive talked to rich about, although im a SP fanboy. Itll give the Dm4 a run for its money, mark my words.

[STO Balla 22]

I think it looks awesome, it should be pretty good.

[snap shoot]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
I think it looks awesome, it should be pretty good.

Yea it looks awesome . They say it needs no aftermarket upgrades so I think it should be worth it , so let's see how that goes.

[AR55 MtM]

Originally posted by snap shoot
They say it needs no aftermarket upgrades so I think it should be worth it , so let's see how that goes.
Its called marketing, nothing is perfect, & this is one of those if its too good to be true it probably isn't situations. I mean come on how many markers come out every year saying the same thing, honestly :rolleyes:

[Canadia_PBaller]

Wow, 1300 for an Impulse that looks like a Shocker on acid..........:eyes:

[can'tthink of1]

I'm taking if you order it w/o the horizantal maxxy it will come with a vert maxxy?

[sIc]

Yeah they wouldnt have a gun come without any reg at all.

[pbhippie ben]

I hope that it lives up to its hype. Some people view all of smart parts' products as crap because of things in the past:(

[STO Balla 22]

Wow, 1300 for an Impulse that looks like a Shocker on acid.........

Actually it doesn't work like an Imp at all.

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22


Actually it doesn't work like an Imp at all.

uumm...explain...:eyes:

[STO Balla 22]

The way it shoots, it's a seal forward like the Shocker. Do I know what that means? Honestly, no. But I read a thread before saying that the Nerve works differently than either the Shocker or an Imp. The way it works is more of a combination of the 2 than anything.

[nos911]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
The way it shoots, it's a seal forward like the Shocker. Do I know what that means? Honestly, no. But I read a thread before saying that the Nerve works differently than either the Shocker or an Imp. The way it works is more of a combination of the 2 than anything.
He's right. Sean from SP is the one that said it, I think. Or he verified it or something. His PBR name is sean@smartparts.

[cutomcocker1]

i bet they just inset an o-ring into the front of the chamber so they could list that as a feature...:laugh:

[Canadia_PBaller]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
The way it shoots, it's a seal forward like the Shocker. Do I know what that means? Honestly, no. But I read a thread before saying that the Nerve works differently than either the Shocker or an Imp. The way it works is more of a combination of the 2 than anything.



So it's like a SFT like a Shocker, but it uses a ram to operate the spool or something, like an Impulse? :eyes: I'm confused.

[UTLadiesMan]

About time... the only other companies in the world that could survive a time to market of over a year for their signiture piece are Intel and Microsoft.

Of course, how many times in the past has SP promised something, delivered a year late and it STILL doesn't work right? (hint, it's more than one)

Wait for the second generation so they fix most of the bugs.

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

I never followed the Nerve. What's so special about it?

[STO Balla 22]

Supposedly fast, light, "needs no upgrades" (yeah right), the way it shoots is supposed to be unique, but nobody seems to know how it works. I'll have to talk to Shadow Walker. When I do I'll give you the scoop.

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
Supposedly fast, light, "needs no upgrades" (yeah right), the way it shoots is supposed to be unique, Sounds like every other gun out there.

[Canadia_PBaller]

First upgrade it needs is a new barrel.........

[STO Balla 22]

Yeah, it's really nothing special, although it should be a good gun.

[ShadowWalker]

Guys, It operates just like an imp. Just has no External moving parts or bolt pin. There is no cross between the two other than they use Smart Part's new style grip frame. Every gun seals forward before it shoots, thats nothing new. It can't have a ram and a spool at the same time.

[STO Balla 22]

My bad :(

[snap shoot]

I really want to check out and maybe try out this gun. I dont think it should need an aftermarket barrel it already comes with the Freak which is a good barrel.

[AR55 MtM]

Originally posted by snap shoot
I really want to check out and maybe try out this gun. I dont think it should need an aftermarket barrel it already comes with the Freak which is a good barrel.
Whoa...unless its the stainless freak which I doubt it will not come with a good barrel.

[Canadia_PBaller]

Originally posted by snap shoot
the Freak which is a good barrel.


No it isn't.

[snap shoot]

Well everyone has their own feelings about different barrels. We will just have to see now if all the specs are true or not.

[AR55 MtM]

No, you think the more $$$ for the barrel the better it has to be.

[Canadia_PBaller]

Well, if you like barrel breaks the Freak is the perfect barrel for you.

[STO Balla 22]

Eh, I've never broken paint because of my Freak, and I like it just fine. I wouldn't have bought one myself, but my gun came with it and I've had good experience with it.

[Canadia_PBaller]

Suit yourself then, I'd rather stick with my stock Infinity barrel then ever get a Freak again.

[STO Balla 22]

My gun didn't come with the stock barrel, so I didn't have a choice. I might see if someone wants to trade for a St!ffy sometime, but the SS and green just matches so nicely... :|

[acdave]

If the nerve comes with a freak barrel already jsut buy a set of SS inserts for 100 bucks.

BTW i can gareentee the nerve is nothin special just buy a shocker and a blt kit and walla (sp?) you've got a nerve that weighs a half pound less.

[AR55 MtM]

When you take away the cost of the tank about $300 its basically the price of a shocker soooo, I would rather buy a shocker and a conquest tank.

[acdave]

Originally posted by AR55 MtM
When you take away the cost of the tank about $300 its basically the price of a shocker soooo, I would rather buy a shocker and a conquest tank.

:agree:

Yep Actually i thought the price was gonna be 1500 with he tank. I prolly wrong tho.

[sIc]

Damn my bad....tried to post pics. If anybody wants to see em, check out the nerve forum on pbn

[AR55 MtM]

Learn how to host pics.

[acdave]

So i read somewhere that the nerve is supposed to come with the "nerve" inline maxflow. Is this any better than the maxxy on the shocker or is it just he same hyped up bull**** were used to from sp.

EDIT: BTW the new grips are secks

[STO Balla 22]

It has the same performance if I'm correct, but it doesn't bring your tank down like the old maxxy. Therefore the inline-Maxflo.

[acdave]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
It has the same performance if I'm correct, but it doesn't bring your tank down like the old maxxy. Therefore the inline-Maxflo.

No, no, no, I'm talkin about the actual inline regualtor. Not the one on the tank. I just got the new Sp catalog and it said that in the pics that are out everywhere that it is shown with a gas thru for grip but the actuall nerve will have the "nerve" inline reg.

[STO Balla 22]

My bad, I misunderstood. I've heard about that too, probably more hype from SP.

[ShadowWalker]

Originally posted by acdave
If the nerve comes with a freak barrel already jsut buy a set of SS inserts for 100 bucks.

BTW i can gareentee the nerve is nothin special just buy a shocker and a blt kit and walla (sp?) you've got a nerve that weighs a half pound less.
Except they operate differently and therefore would have a different feel. Have you shot a Nerve? How do you know it's nothing special. I'm not saying it is, but who are you to run around saying that when not many people have even seen one, let alone shot one. Rich from Punisherspb.com said it was simply amazing He went to the SP factory and was able to shoot one.

EDIT-The max flo is going to be the new style, probably just milled differently. It also has an integrated LPR.

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by ShadowWalker

Except they operate differently

how so...explain...in detail if you please...

[acdave]

Originally posted by ShadowWalker

Except they operate differently and therefore would have a different feel. Have you shot a Nerve? How do you know it's nothing special. I'm not saying it is, but who are you to run around saying that when not many people have even seen one, let alone shot one. Rich from Punisherspb.com said it was simply amazing He went to the SP factory and was able to shoot one.

EDIT-The max flo is going to be the new style, probably just milled differently. It also has an integrated LPR.

THey have the same exact grip frame and the nerve is similair to a imp in design. SO why wouldnt you want a upd shocker than the nerve. I know i would.

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by acdave
I know i would.

and so would I...

[ShadowWalker]

Originally posted by acdave


THey have the same exact grip frame and the nerve is similair to a imp in design. SO why wouldnt you want a upd shocker than the nerve. I know i would.

Gripframe is not the almighty determining factor of feel. Sorry but it isn't going to be a stock Imp by any means. A lot of the parts in it are going to be based off of what people want(read as "the best upgrades") in a Regular Imp, in a much smaller and lighter package.

[acdave]

So let me ask you this. Which is better a full upgraded imp or a shocker? Cause if you're sayin nerve=same desingn as fully upd imp then why not go for the shocker. I mean think about it you could have a bolt kit and a WAS board in a shocker for the same price as a nerve without the tank.

[ShadowWalker]

I didn't say I though it was better. Infact I haven't given my opinion at all. Some people simply prefer the feel of an impulse over a shocker, although with the weight and size changes it will be different. Its just dumb when no one has shot one or seen one and are already bashing it.

on a side note, WAS+Shocker=dumb when you could wait a few weeks for the Tadao to come out for 130 with no permanent mods to the gun and DIY install. Tadao's are some of the best boards out there right now.

[ShadowWalker]

http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/40c1317c_87c6/bc/2202/__sr_/83e1.jpg?phnhrHBBrcE6MQ20

just found out that it does infact have a custom ramping mode, whether this means you can set when it will start I do not know.

[robdamanii]

Simple point here...

Just more worthless crap from SP that won't get bought by anyone with common sense.

[Downfall08]

...so a lot of people will buy it.

[acdave]

Originally posted by ShadowWalker
I didn't say I though it was better. Infact I haven't given my opinion at all. Some people simply prefer the feel of an impulse over a shocker, although with the weight and size changes it will be different. Its just dumb when no one has shot one or seen one and are already bashing it.

on a side note, WAS+Shocker=dumb when you could wait a few weeks for the Tadao to come out for 130 with no permanent mods to the gun and DIY install. Tadao's are some of the best boards out there right now.


Yeah WAS, predetor mod, tadao etc... Will all make the shocker as good of a gun if not a better gun than the nerve(along a bolt kit of course).

[slushii]

How can you determine that when you have never shot or even seen the nerve.

[AR55 MtM]

We determine it by pre-history. Everything SP says is usually false, like the release of the Impulse and the freak kit. All the promises they made but only half of them were true....I mean come on a marker that needs no upgrades? Think about it for a second people.

[STO Balla 22]

In actuallity, no marker needs upgrades. A BE Blade doesn't need upgrades, so what they're saying is totally true.

[acdave]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
In actuallity, no marker needs upgrades. A BE Blade doesn't need upgrades, so what they're saying is totally true.

Come on now STO, you know what he means

[STO Balla 22]

I know what he means, but he was saying that SP was lying like they always do when they really aren't lying at all.
IMO the Nerve won't be anything great and it will be somewhat of a flop with people opting to buy a different high end gun instead, but that's just me.

[AR55 MtM]

Originally posted by acdave


Come on now STO, you know what he means Finally a person who thinks....I commend you adcave :tup:

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
I know what he means, but he was saying that SP was lying like they always do when they really aren't lying at all.
IMO the Nerve won't be anything great and it will be somewhat of a flop with people opting to buy a different high end gun instead, but that's just me. History repeats itself this is no exception
Originally posted by STO Balla 22
So just because I showed that they aren't lying like you implied means I don't think? No I envy him because he doesn't believe the HYPE

Edit: STO you didn't show anything you just think they arn't lying

[STO Balla 22]

So just because I showed that they aren't lying like you implied means I don't think?
Edit- You implied that they are lying by saying that the Nerve doesn't need any upgrades. It's true that the Nerve won't need any upgrades, so therefore they aren't lying like you implied. I don't believe the hype, and I think that the Nerve will be a flop and will be inferior in performance compared to Timmies, Flies, DM4s, Freestyles, and other high end guns.

[AR55 MtM]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
You implied that they are lying by saying that the Nerve doesn't need any upgrades. It's true that the Nerve won't need any upgrades,. Okay then your going to tell me this gun is going to be perfect. I will not need a new barrel or regulator or hell even a feedneck. Prove to me that the marker isn't going to need any upgrades, until then I still think they are lying.

[STO Balla 22]

No gun needs upgrades, it will function perfectly fine with all stock parts. I don't think the Freak is that bad of a barrel, although it is overpriced. I've always had good luck with them, but I've gotten them for very cheap, or they've come with the gun I bought.

[acdave]

What what. What happens when you pull your 1500 dollar nerve outta the box and the inline maxxy starts leaking like crazy. Ya gotta buy a new one. Factory defects are inevitable. Come on now, its smart parts.

[AR55 MtM]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
No gun needs upgrades, it will function perfectly fine with all stock parts. I don't think the Freak is that bad of a barrel, although it is overpriced. I've always had good luck with them, but I've gotten them for very cheap, or they've come with the gun I bought. You keep repeating your self you have yet to say something that is a fact and not an opinion.

[slushii]

Its a fact that no gun need upgrades out of the box to shoot a paintball. Exept the automag which used to come without a barrle.

[Jeezer]

Originally posted by acdave
What what. What happens when you pull your 1500 dollar nerve outta the box and the inline maxxy starts leaking like crazy. Ya gotta buy a new one. Factory defects are inevitable. Come on now, its smart parts.

All companies produce guns with defects at some point of time, and all early models of guns will have their problems. In fact I recall the Alias having a couple of issues when they were first released, dont know what kind, i just know they existed.

[acdave]

Originally posted by Jeezer


All companies produce guns with defects at some point of time, and all early models of guns will have their problems. In fact I recall the Alias having a couple of issues when they were first released, dont know what kind, i just know they existed.

Yeah but not to the extent of sp. Hell nearly every single shocker up untill a couple of weeks ag oneeded to be sent into smart parts because of defects. and about the alais only a handful hand problem with frenzy and bounce and it was fixed very quickly.

[STO Balla 22]

I know it's only a few examples, but ShadowWalker's Shocker was just fine, as well as 2 people at my field's when they first got theirs. What I'm saying is not an opinion, it's a fact. The Nerve will not need upgrades. If the Maxxy leaks, you can send it back to SP and they will fix it for you. That's not an upgrade, that's getting something fixed for free. Even if you had to get a new Maxxy, that's technically not upgrading, it's just getting the same thing, but I know that's a little too picky.

[coonsa]

STO is right

[ShadowWalker]

Originally posted by AR55 MtM
Okay then your going to tell me this gun is going to be perfect. I will not need a new barrel or regulator or hell even a feedneck. Prove to me that the marker isn't going to need any upgrades, until then I still think they are lying.

Perfect isn't what they promised, nore have they EVER said that. It comes with a no rise clamper already. Barrel is a freak, which with stainless inserts will be decent.

To add to STO's comments about Shocker's, two people with shockers I Haven't seen before today had them and they worked flawlessly.
Originally posted by acdave


Yeah but not to the extent of sp. Hell nearly every single shocker up untill a couple of weeks ag oneeded to be sent into smart parts because of defects. and about the alais only a handful hand problem with frenzy and bounce and it was fixed very quickly.

Up until a few weeks ago? I think not. My friend bought his shocker in May, and it was in the upper 6000's. What serial numbers needed the new bolt and switch? 3999 and under (read as "End of last year, if not earlier"). How much did they cost? Nothing. As with most guns, The first runs aren't the greatest, frenzy board being an example.

[Jeezer]

Originally posted by acdave


Yeah but not to the extent of sp. Hell nearly every single shocker up untill a couple of weeks ag oneeded to be sent into smart parts because of defects. and about the alais only a handful hand problem with frenzy and bounce and it was fixed very quickly.

Start talking about stuff you know about. Shockers have been working ever since the recall of 3999 and below.

[ShadowWalker]

To Update everyone, I just found Out that 50 Nerve's were shipped out from SP on August 12th to the biggest SP retailers.

Edit- Rich from Punisher's PB said he sold out of the first batch in 10 minutes. He got them on friday, as he is very close to SP.

[AR55 MtM]

Originally posted by ShadowWalker


Perfect isn't what they promised, nore have they EVER said that.
Promising that it will need no upgrades sounds pretty perfect to me....

[penguins_r_kewl]

Expect nothing special, all of SP's guns are half *** imitations on other guns, with the exception of the Old Shocker, which they bought from some other company. I wonder if SP has actually made their own gun now.

[acdave]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl
I wonder if SP has actually made their own gun now.

Well does a copy of their own gun count as making their own gun:rolleyes:

[penguins_r_kewl]

Originally posted by acdave


Well does a copy of their own gun count as making their own gun:rolleyes:

I doubt it'll be a Shocker 03, because the Nerve has a two bore body. But you know, they've probably found another gun and are going to call it their own.

[Assass!n]

I wonder how the NPPL and other leagues will take it since they're openly admitting that it has a ramping mode. I mean, yeah, lots of people use guns that secretly ramp, but its different when a gun comes out that specifically says it has ramping modes.

[clown_13_2001]

Originally posted by Assass!n
I wonder how the NPPL and other leagues will take it since they're openly admitting that it has a ramping mode. I mean, yeah, lots of people use guns that secretly ramp, but its different when a gun comes out that specifically says it has ramping modes.

Sorry to sound dumb:o , but what is ramping?

[ShadowWalker]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl


I doubt it'll be a Shocker 03, because the Nerve has a two bore body. But you know, they've probably found another gun and are going to call it their own.

For the 100 billionth time, it is a stacked tube, open bolt, electropneumatic marker like a timmy or bushy(all have differences). It operates similar to an Impulse, without any external moving parts, and a few other things.

It does have a tourny lock, and I just read somewhere(ydna's site possibly, not sure) that it has 3 ramping modes. Whether it actually does have three I do not know, but if it was his site then it is believable.

[acdave]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl


I doubt it'll be a Shocker 03, because the Nerve has a two bore body. But you know, they've probably found another gun and are going to call it their own.

Actually i was reffering to the nerve being a copy of an imp.

[Assass!n]

Originally posted by clown_13_2001


Sorry to sound dumb:o , but what is ramping?

Ramping is when a board has programming in it to shoot faster than the person is pulling the trigger, when they reach a certain rate of fire. Example - Say im using a ramping board, and I start shooting 13bps. Let say the board will ramp when it reaches 13bps. So i shoot 13bps, the ramping kicks in, and the board ramps me up to 18bps. It basically adds shots when your firing.

Also, boards dont have to activate that way, the ramping modes could be activated by pushing a button, pulling the trigger, ect.

[Spyderlover120]

if only i could afford it:( sigh