PBN's obsession with HK/AGG

[Rebel2002]

I just came back from the warzone that is the PBN Paintball Talk forum, and I noticed the "All things HK and AGG" post had recieved over 6000 replies and was over 300 pages long. What's so appealing about HK and AGG that could cause such an obsession? All I know is that HK was originally a SoCal team who never really went too far, and now HK basically represents what's "cool" in paintball and agg is basically just a branch of HK. HK and AGG are pretty much never even mentioned on the PBR forums, so why is PBN so obsessed with them?

[acdave]

we do not speak this so called PBN language sorry.

[penguins_r_kewl]

Cause those people are all bark and no bite.

What is HK anyway?

[schoolsukz08]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl
Cause those people are all bark and no bite.

What is HK anyway?

A team.

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Let us try and become PBN posters as they are obviously the most intelligent group of people in existence.

[Downfall08]

The whole agg thing started out as a joke and people took it way too far. I'm not sure why pbn is so obsessed. Just got bored so they needed to mix things up a bit maybe.

[paintballer42o]

Agg? HK? Who cares.

[PbAllWiZZ]

Jesus, there was just a thread on HK. Go look at that instead of starting another controversy here. As for agg, its a just a style. Personally I think its cool. But if you gusy wanna know more about it got o PBN yourselfs and read up on it.

[Kingman27]

i dont get why PBRers hate PBN so much..if you give it a chance, it's pretty cool..all the HK and agg obsessions are pretty cool if you get to know them..

HK=Hostile Kids
and no, its not a frickin team people..they dont do tournys or stuff like that.. they are just a group of great agg players..

its not like they are really obsessed with it or anything, its just for fun..they have fun with it, let them be..
;)

[Juvenile]

PBR noober's obsession with being HK/AGG rebels.

Originally posted by Kingman27
HK=Hostile Kids
and no, its not a frickin team people..they dont do tournys or stuff like that.. they are just a group of great agg players..

its not like they are really obsessed with it or anything, its just for fun..they have fun with it, let them be..
;) I'm glad you have such great knowledge of the paintball tournament scene!

[cocker kid 2k2]

The HK army is just a group of guys who look good when they play, who invented the the AGG style, some people like the way the style looks, I know I do, I think it is a nice look as opposed to the traditional paintball look of wearing a backwards baseball hat or a single du-rag with regular company jerseys and pants. HK is adding a little bit of spunk to the sport, giving it a fun edge style wise.

That is the part of HK that I am in agreeance with, the Hostile Kids do promote cheating like no others, which i'm not 100% for, but i'm not going to go off on a flaming rampage saying that all cheaters should die.

People who hate the HK army usually have no reason, just because they're jumping on the anti band wagon, which imo is just as bad as liking them for no reason. I agree with most of the things affiliated with them. But not all.

[Rebel2002]

Originally posted by Juvenile
PBR noober's obsession with being HK/AGG rebels.

I didn't really get that post... Are you bashing pbr?

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by Rebel2002


I didn't really get that post... Are you bashing pbr? I'm bashing all you rebels who want to hate HK or AGG for no reason.

[Rebel2002]

I really don't hate or even dislike HK/AGG, I just want to know why people like it so much.

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by Juvenile
PBR noober's obsession with being HK/AGG rebels.

I'm glad you have such great knowledge of the paintball tournament scene! dude, you didnt understand me..the HK Army is NOT a team, as in all of them 1 team..sure they might have other teams inside of the group..but when referred to as the HK Army, it means all of them..

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by Kingman27
dude, you didnt understand me..the HK Army is NOT a team, as in all of them 1 team..sure they might have other teams inside of the group..but when referred to as the HK Army, it means all of them.. Hmm, your post specifically says HK = Hostile Kids. Funny how Hostile Kids play Div. 2 Xball and then Edge plays Div. 1 Super 7, hmmm?

:rolleyes:

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by Juvenile
Hmm, your post specifically says HK = Hostile Kids. Funny how Hostile Kids play Div. 2 Xball and then Edge plays Div. 1 Super 7, hmmm?

:rolleyes:
dude, they said the HK Army doof, the army is the ALL..HK, the hostile kids, not the whole army, plays those..

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
The HK army is just a group of guys who look good when they play, who invented the the AGG style, some people like the way the style looks, I know I do, I think it is a nice look as opposed to the traditional paintball look of wearing a backwards baseball hat or a single du-rag with regular company jerseys and pants. HK is adding a little bit of spunk to the sport, giving it a fun edge style wise.

That is the part of HK that I am in agreeance with, the Hostile Kids do promote cheating like no others, which i'm not 100% for, but i'm not going to go off on a flaming rampage saying that all cheaters should die.

People who hate the HK army usually have no reason, just because they're jumping on the anti band wagon, which imo is just as bad as liking them for no reason. I agree with most of the things affiliated with them. But not all.
i just noticed this post..i agree with every word you said, completely

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Juvenile, how does it feel to be outsmarted by an 11 year old?

[STO Balla 22]

I wouldn't call it outsmarted, I'm waiting to see what Juvenile said considering talking about HK can be confusing.
I don't support or disagree with HK as I don't know any of them nor do I live by any of them. I do like to look good/agg on the field though, whether that means wearing du-rags, mirrored lenses, or whatever. Why not look cool on the paintball field if you have a choice? I'm sure some of you are just too manly to do that, but don't diss people that you don't know anything about.

[PbAllWiZZ]

Im kinda undecided on HK, like Tony said I dont support their cheating at all, but I do like their style and some of their ideals. Such as the one that paintbal should be played for fun and stuff. Plus I dont wanna be all like "HK Rules!" when I dont know much about em. Also, on teh subject of agg. You have to take it lightly. Its kinda stupid how guys on PBN take it all seriosuly. Personaly, I try to wear the agg style, not so Im considered and labeled agg, but I like the way it looks. And finally. Stop dissing PBN. I used to but now that I have been on it more its not so bad. Alot of the memebers are pretty cool and nice, but there are some of em who are asses. Alright, thats all. Peace!

[Woogie12]

They do have a team called the edge, and a few of their players have been picked up by pro teams. The edge places 7th in denver in div1.

[Shadow22]

Originally posted by Kingman27

dude, they said the HK Army doof, the army is the ALL..HK, the hostile kids, not the whole army, plays those..

Dude your wrong acctually. Most of it is " I support HK" the army is big but there all part of that team.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by Shadow22


Dude your wrong acctually. Most of it is " I support HK" the army is big but there all part of that team. Ummmm, no. Did you ever see the thread on pbn about HK day, where all the HK players gathered for one day of playing. There were all the players there, the support has nothing to do with the actual army. The HK army is every single HK player, no matter what team they play on.

[Canadia_PBaller]

This thread is sort of an example of how this site is so full of people who think they're tourney players, but they aren't.

AGG isn't only to look good, alot of playing AGG actually helps you play better as well.....

I like AGG, but I don't really like Jules Foote........he's kinda just looking out for trouble.......I mean sure being a "bad boy" is okay, but not when you go out looking for it.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by Kingman27

dude, they said the HK Army doof, the army is the ALL..HK, the hostile kids, not the whole army, plays those.. Hate to break it to you guys, but he's right.

And I also agree that the Jules Foote is something that never should have come from HK or any other player in the sport.

[Rebel2002]

So if one were to say "I support HK", would they be saying they supported the div 1 and 2 teams, or would they be saying that they supported the HK army?

[Canadia_PBaller]

Yea, most other guys from HK are really cool, look at Dynasty, they're HK, and they're great guys.

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by Rebel2002
So if one were to say "I support HK", would they be saying they supported the div 1 and 2 teams, or would they be saying that they supported the HK army? The HK Army...

[Rebel2002]

I was trying to get someone else's view Kingman.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by Rebel2002
So if one were to say "I support HK", would they be saying they supported the div 1 and 2 teams, or would they be saying that they supported the HK army? To support HK is to support agg in general, and as kingman said, the entire HK Army.

[Canadia_PBaller]

Yea, alot of people that support HK, don't neccisarily like the team....they aren't that good. But the army is made up of tons of players, and alot of good ones (I.E. Dynasty, Marcus the Carcus.....etc)

[Jaster]

Never been much of a bandwagoner... HK...AGG...*shrugs* whatever floats your boat I guess...I just put on clothes and go play paintball.
I'm too old for all this fashion and style crap. I don't really care if I'm in style or not. It's paintball...not a fashion runway full of super models. Leave the fashion/style statements to those little guys named Seirge and Giorgio (sp?) and their gourmet espressos....and wait for the swimsuit issue and the Fredrick's catalog like everyone else.
We're paintballers....we shoot each other for fun.... what the hell does fashion have to do with that? IMO, too many people are too concerned with how they look and if they fit the crowd. They forget the most important part of the game. Playing it! I don't care how "cool" you look walking on the field. I'm still going to shoot you. You're "coolness" is going to be different color when you're walking to the dead box.

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

Originally posted by Jaster
Never been much of a bandwagoner... HK...AGG...*shrugs* whatever floats your boat I guess...I just put on clothes and go play paintball.
I'm too old for all this fashion and style crap. I don't really care if I'm in style or not. It's paintball...not a fashion runway full of super models. Leave the fashion/style statements to those little guys named Seirge and Giorgio (sp?) and their gourmet espressos....and wait for the swimsuit issue and the Fredrick's catalog like everyone else.
We're paintballers....we shoot each other for fun.... what the hell does fashion have to do with that? IMO, too many people are too concerned with how they look and if they fit the crowd. They forget the most important part of the game. Playing it! I don't care how "cool" you look walking on the field. I'm still going to shoot you. You're "coolness" is going to be different color when you're walking to the dead box. Oh but it means paintball is now mainstream. Thats what everyone wanted right?

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by Jaster
Never been much of a bandwagoner... HK...AGG...*shrugs* whatever floats your boat I guess...I just put on clothes and go play paintball.
I'm too old for all this fashion and style crap. I don't really care if I'm in style or not. It's paintball...not a fashion runway full of super models. Leave the fashion/style statements to those little guys named Seirge and Giorgio (sp?) and their gourmet espressos....and wait for the swimsuit issue and the Fredrick's catalog like everyone else.
We're paintballers....we shoot each other for fun.... what the hell does fashion have to do with that? IMO, too many people are too concerned with how they look and if they fit the crowd. They forget the most important part of the game. Playing it! I don't care how "cool" you look walking on the field. I'm still going to shoot you. You're "coolness" is going to be different color when you're walking to the dead box.

well for the latest agg threads on pbn, it's now not only looking good, but also shootin faces/mowing muppets/killing suckers, or whatever you like to call it..Everyone in the HK Army are great players, who are agg..and people support the Army by being agg..

[Woogie12]

Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller
Yea, most other guys from HK are really cool, look at Dynasty, they're HK, and they're great guys.
Nah dude, dynasty isn't exactly HK, they are all iron kids. They are cool with the guys from HK though.

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
The HK army is just a group of guys who look good when they play, who invented the the AGG style, some people like the way the style looks, I know I do, I think it is a nice look as opposed to the traditional paintball look of wearing a backwards baseball hat or a single du-rag with regular company jerseys and pants. HK is adding a little bit of spunk to the sport, giving it a fun edge style wise.

That is the part of HK that I am in agreeance with, the Hostile Kids do promote cheating like no others, which i'm not 100% for, but i'm not going to go off on a flaming rampage saying that all cheaters should die.

People who hate the HK army usually have no reason, just because they're jumping on the anti band wagon, which imo is just as bad as liking them for no reason. I agree with most of the things affiliated with them. But not all.



agreeance?

oh man...

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by DirtMcgirt



agreeance?

oh man... Very good Dirt, quoting at 3 paragraph post to point out one word. Way to show your intelligence to it's full potential :rolleyes:

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
Very good Dirt, quoting at 3 paragraph post to point out one word. Way to show your intelligence to it's full potential :rolleyes:


I just hate that word. Fred Durst once said "I think we're all in agreeance that terrorism is bad" or something equally asinine. You just brought back bad memories of stupid people.

and christ i hate agg and HK. I see nothing even remotely appealing about cheating and image obsession.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by DirtMcgirt



I just hate that word. Fred Durst once said "I think we're all in agreeance that terrorism is bad" or something equally asinine. You just brought back bad memories of stupid people.
Well excuse me for making a mistake, I should have taken your feelings into consideration before I wrote it:rolleyes:

and christ i hate agg and HK. I see nothing even remotely appealing about cheating and image obsession. Go play where everybody cheats, and then you may see why people like me, who don't support it, but do it to stay alive do it.

[4THDEGREE]

I hate to tell you, but if you have to emulate others in an attempt to be part of the latest and greatest. You've already missed it. By the time that you have figgured out what the newest craze is, it is already past. If you wait until you can buy commercially whatever you think is the latest fad, those that started it have already moved on.

Be your own person and form your own identity or soon you will be an old person trying to look like teenager and we all know how pitiful that appears.

[blinkpk11]

wow, and i thought it was just a little sc villiage thing...guess i should venture out of off topic a little more these days. i gues whatever floats your boat.....

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by 4THDEGREE
I hate to tell you, but if you have to emulate others in an attempt to be part of the latest and greatest. You've already missed it. By the time that you have figgured out what the newest craze is, it is already past. If you wait until you can buy commercially whatever you think is the latest fad, those that started it have already moved on.

Be your own person and form your own identity or soon you will be an old person trying to look like teenager and we all know how pitiful that appears.


well put.

[Rebel2002]

Originally posted by Kingman27


well for the latest agg threads on pbn, it's now not only looking good, but also shootin faces/mowing muppets/killing suckers, or whatever you like to call it..Everyone in the HK Army are great players, who are agg..and people support the Army by being agg..

I doubt that EVERY player in the HK army is such a great player... Most of them probably are worried more about style than they are about actually owning others. If someone was an awesome player AND was agg, I'd totally support them. But the problem is, just being agg is becoming cooler than playing great on the field.

[AR55 MtM]

Originally posted by 4THDEGREE
I hate to tell you, but if you have to emulate others in an attempt to be part of the latest and greatest. You've already missed it. By the time that you have figgured out what the newest craze is, it is already past. If you wait until you can buy commercially whatever you think is the latest fad, those that started it have already moved on.

Be your own person and form your own identity or soon you will be an old person trying to look like teenager and we all know how pitiful that appears.
Been here for 2 weeks, not bad :)

[Canadia_PBaller]

Originally posted by Woogie12

Nah dude, dynasty isn't exactly HK, they are all iron kids. They are cool with the guys from HK though.



Yea, but lots of em are still part of the HK army, I've seen Alex and others wearing HK headbands n' ****.

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller




Yea, but lots of em are still part of the HK army, I've seen Alex and others wearing HK headbands n' ****. that doesnt mean theyre in the army :rolleyes: ;)

[Woogie12]

Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller




Yea, but lots of em are still part of the HK army, I've seen Alex and others wearing HK headbands n' ****.
Yea, that's cause they're all friends with the HK guys.

[Canadia_PBaller]

Originally posted by Kingman27
that doesnt mean theyre in the army :rolleyes: ;)



So when someone wears a HK headband that says HK army, that doesn't neccisarily mean they are in the HK army? What the hell do they have to do, brand themselves?


EDIT: http://www.hkarmy.com/hkarmy.htm

On the HK site it has a few Dynasty players on the list as "HK Army."

[Woogie12]

Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller




So when someone wears a HK headband that says HK army, that doesn't neccisarily mean they are in the HK army? What the hell do they have to do, brand themselves?


EDIT: http://www.hkarmy.com/hkarmy.htm

On the HK site it has a few Dynasty players on the list as "HK Army."
You can buy HK army gear.

[STO Balla 22]

To be in the army you have to play with them and be friends with them I would think, anyone can buy a jersey. It's true, a lot of things that are considered agg can help you play better, such as running with your hand in front of your face off the break. I've seen a lot more bounces off hands than masks. I'm not going to spend a bunch of money looking good on the field, but if I have the choice to look good or not for the same amount of money, I'll go with looking good.

[Six Feet Under]

I don't think that to support them you have to cheat all the time or worry about how you look all the time, trying to be AGG. The most AGG things I own are my do-rag and headband. I haven't taken it too far yet, I'm taking my time- I need to work on my playing skills and get a good gun, then I'll worry about whatever looks are "in"- don't get me wrong, you gotta look good doing whatever it is you do best, but I need to BE the best and have the best equipment to go along with my awesome-ness before I have the latest clothes and stuff.

[Forest Spyder]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
Go play where everybody cheats, and then you may see why people like me, who don't support it, but do it to stay alive do it.

Lame excuse. Go to Del Hobbies Paintball in New Jersey. Want to see cheating? How about playing on with tons of hits on your pack and nobody caring at all.

Frankly, "Cheating because everybody else does it" is a piss poor excuse.

Reminds me of people who were "just following orders".

Just ****ing play your best. Cheating while practicing will never get you better, because as soon as you play a tournament you can't get away with it, so there goes your main way of winning.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by Forest Spyder
Just ****ing play your best. Cheating while practicing will never get you better, because as soon as you play a tournament you can't get away with it, so there goes your main way of winning.

Uhhh, yeah, we never cheat when we practice, and it is possible to get away with it at tournaments, it's very very easy if you're good at cheatting, I could cheat so much, anytime if I wanted to, but I try not to because I try to be an honest player. Cheatting isn't somebodys way of winning, it's just another skill that some people have. Live with it.

[Six Feet Under]

Originally posted by Forest Spyder


Lame excuse. Go to Del Hobbies Paintball in New Jersey. Want to see cheating? How about playing on with tons of hits on your pack and nobody caring at all.

Frankly, "Cheating because everybody else does it" is a piss poor excuse.

Reminds me of people who were "just following orders".

Just ****ing play your best. Cheating while practicing will never get you better, because as soon as you play a tournament you can't get away with it, so there goes your main way of winning.

Just because Tonty says he cheats, doesn't mean he cheats every game or all the time he plays. Hell, I'VE cheated before, and I'm normally the goody-goody-two-shoes type of person when it comes to playing paintball.

[p8ntball-kid21]

Originally posted by Forest Spyder


Lame excuse. Go to Del Hobbies Paintball in New Jersey. Want to see cheating? How about playing on with tons of hits on your pack and nobody caring at all.

Frankly, "Cheating because everybody else does it" is a piss poor excuse.

Reminds me of people who were "just following orders".

Just ****ing play your best. Cheating while practicing will never get you better, because as soon as you play a tournament you can't get away with it, so there goes your main way of winning.

AMEN






BTW if anyone doesn't know, AGG was a way of homosexuals to meet each other. Just keep that in mind while out in public....

Also the original Hostile Kidz played tourneys but eventually broke up after joining different teams.

[Woogie12]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
To be in the army you have to play with them and be friends with them I would think, anyone can buy a jersey. It's true, a lot of things that are considered agg can help you play better, such as running with your hand in front of your face off the break. I've seen a lot more bounces off hands than masks. I'm not going to spend a bunch of money looking good on the field, but if I have the choice to look good or not for the same amount of money, I'll go with looking good.
Hand hits are also much easier to wipe than gog hits.

[STO Balla 22]

^^^True. I heard you have to have your palm faced in now if you put it in front of your mask when playing NPPL. Is that true? Because I know many players got hit in the hand, slid in, and wiped it.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
^^^True. I heard you have to have your palm faced in now if you put it in front of your mask when playing NPPL. Is that true? Because I know many players got hit in the hand, slid in, and wiped it. I've never seen anybody with their palm faced out anyways. And besides, wiping a hand hit all together is far too easy.

[STO Balla 22]

Some people run with palm facing ******d so they can just make a fist to wipe a hit.

[Jaster]

Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller
What the hell do they have to do, brand themselves?

only if it's in style....
please watch the mouths guys. Thanks.

On the whiping thing...I personally hate it. Turns my stomach. but when I was IAO I was trading shots with a kid in the snake. I peppered the right side of his hopper. Everyone saw it...except a ref. He looked at it went behind the bunker and came out the left dragging his gun on the bunker, shot my hopper and went back to the right. I played through and lit him up. I knew I was hit. Watched it. The ref finally checked the kid and pulled him and I walked off. I wasn't going to keep on going (even though he was hit first) but I wan't letting him go forward either.

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

Originally posted by Jaster
On the whiping thing...I didn't know people used whips in paintball :P

I gave up on agg. I got a profiler. The most agg thing I can do is put a bandana around my neck.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by LAMANTEthePBguy
I didn't know people used whips in paintball :P

I gave up on agg. I got a profiler. The most agg thing I can do is put a bandana around my neck. Using a mag cancels out all your agg points, sorry :(

[Rebel2002]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
Using a mag cancels out all your agg points, sorry :(

:D

[cocker kid 2k2]

Oh yeah, and Rebel, you absolutely NEED to get an LPR on your Matrix.

[Rebel2002]

New 2k4 Dye LPR in the mail.

[cocker kid 2k2]

Originally posted by Rebel2002
New 2k4 Dye LPR in the mail. Good man.

[LAMANTEthePBguy]

Originally posted by cocker kid 2k2
Using a mag cancels out all your agg points, sorry :( Thats why I gave up :D. I don't really see why something like agg should influence my marker decision. I buy for performance, not to fit in. I bought it before agg became big anyway. I don't hate agg/hk, and only respect a supporter if they give me a reason to. Woe is me.

[Kingman27]

bah, im not agg..i just think it's cool..i dont have that money to waste just to look good..

eventually maybe..