Vision?

[QuiksilverMV]

Does a Indian Creek Designs ICD BKO 2004 have vision or is there a way to put vision on it?

[pnda_express]

Doesnt come with vision and you cant get it, but its really not a problem, it doesnt chop much at all. I chop 1-in 4000. Im not kidding. If you get a b2k2 for the extra hundred or so it does come with vision i believe.

[yoda101]

Originally posted by QuiksilverMV
Does a Indian Creek Designs ICD BKO 2004 have vision or is there a way to put vision on it?

you can get PDS put on a bko, the charge is $165 from ICD themselves, turn around time is 2-4 weeks

VIsion is a reflective eye and can have problems with dark paint. ICD prefers a beam break system that can see any kind of paint and you wont run into issues

[RainTreeBoy]

Originally posted by yoda101

VIsion is a reflective eye and can have problems with dark paint. ICD prefers a beam break system that can see any kind of paint and you wont run into issues
Sorry for getting a bit OT, but yoda, didnt SP improve vision? I'm not sure if its true or not, but from what I heard, the Vision system on the new nerve is better than the older vision eyes. I dont know if its break beam or still reflective, but I just heard it was improved.

[lotus_esprit5]

^I think its still reflective, but they probly gave it better eye logic or something. I know everyone is always like "get an Impulse! you can spend $150 to put a WAS system in it then you will never chop!" Thats because the WAS system supposedly has better eye logic than the stock board or some crap like that. Just goes to show that Vision is not a very good system though, cause it will still chop unless you but a $150 upgrade for it. Thats why I hate when ppl talk about having Vision on their Bushy, cause first of all its not Vision and second of all Vision is a POS.

With ICD's break beam PDS, you will practically never chop. Dont have to worry about eye logic or paint color. If the beam is broken, it shoots, if not, it wont shoot, that simple.

I have a Halo and I barely ever chop. With my blind bolt installed, I never chop. No PDS needed.

[lucky7]

yep, got a halo b on my bko....I can't chop with it unless I'm shooting upside down, straight to the side, or somewhere in between......and believe me, I'v tried

but with the gun held straight up and down....as fast as my fingers can shoot = no chops with halo B

[artshark]

Blind bolt it for that extra measure of security.


Art

[rhchilipepper4]

Originally posted by artshark
Blind bolt it for that extra measure of security.


Art
My friends blind bolt already has a rip in it. But he has one for his impy....... Hes only shot like a case through it too.

[artshark]

The soft face ripped? Hm. ::Shrugs:: It isn't strong, I gues, but it shouldn't rip.


Art

[yoda101]

there have been alot of reports lately of major blowback with the OTB blind bolt, rips in the plastic and the glue wearing off after minimal use. OTB is doing its best to try and replace and fix these problems but it seems that they may of dropped the ball once again.

[RainTreeBoy]

Originally posted by yoda101
of major blowback with the OTB blind bolt
Wait, people are getting blowback with the BB now? I thought when it first came out, people said it got rid of blowback...

[rhchilipepper4]

Originally posted by RainTreeBoy

Wait, people are getting blowback with the BB now? I thought when it first came out, people said it got rid of blowback...
That whats I first heard.

[yoda101]

Originally posted by RainTreeBoy

Wait, people are getting blowback with the BB now? I thought when it first came out, people said it got rid of blowback...

it seems A) people are sanding the bolts to much or B) slight tears in the rubber itself are causing major problems.

[lotus_esprit5]

people are sanding the bolts to much or
User error. Besides, it seems to me that you would have to sand the tip down ALOT in order to get it to be so small that it wont seal. Those ppl probly got what they deserved.

I havent heard about the rubber actually tearing though. I thought the only real problem was the glue. That is something that is NOT user error and OTB does need to improve it.