View Full Version : Painball vs. AIRSOFT
tones888
11-28-2001, 02:32 PM
ok, ok...here's the growing debate between some of my friends: which would you prefer to play, PAINTBALL or AIRSOFT?
and why? feel free to babble cuz i'm torn.:cool:
F355DUDE
11-28-2001, 02:38 PM
i know i will sound dumb, but what is airsoft?
pr0kch0p
11-28-2001, 02:38 PM
delete this crap please.
if you even want to argue that airsoft is comparable to paintball then you need to kill yourself, now.
paintball = good
airsoft = bad
tones888
11-28-2001, 02:49 PM
355, airsoft guns are replicas of real ones, firing 6mm plastic bb's at about 500-800 bb's per minute.
Paintball_Playa
11-28-2001, 02:50 PM
prokchop is really right on this one. You CANNOT beat paintball. DON'T TRY!!! It won't work. Airsoft isn't good cause you never know when someones out. Paintball gives you a satisfying paint marking (hence the name). Also, airsoft guns breaks after like two seconds, so don't bother.
tones888
11-28-2001, 02:52 PM
pork, did i say i wanted to argue about it? chill out! jeez....
why do you prefer paintball?
F355DUDE
11-28-2001, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by tones888
355, airsoft guns are replicas of real ones, firing 6mm plastic bb's at about 500-800 bb's per minute.
ok thanks, i had seen ads in my paintball magazines for airsoft guns but i never knew what they were. do you shoot them at people or targets?
Paintball_Playa
11-28-2001, 02:56 PM
Paintball= sport
Airsoft= bunch of people running around yelling "I got you I got you!"
1.Being as those little BB or pellet things can't leave a mark, you can't rely on knowing who wins.
2.How many airsoft tournaments are there?
3.Who's ever heard of "RecSoft" instead of RecBall.
4.They try their best to make those things look like real guns, "Wow, I got and MP5!!" NOOOOOO, you got a plastic toy that's gonna get you shot when you wave it around in public.
Just my opinions.
Pookister569
11-28-2001, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by tones888
355, airsoft guns are replicas of real ones, firing 6mm plastic bb's at about 500-800 bb's per minute.
ehh.... ur right about airsoft guns being replicas of real ones, but not all of them semi auto or full auto. there are spring airsoft guns where u need to cock the gun every time u fire it.
tones888
11-28-2001, 04:58 PM
i agree with you guys, and yes, not all airsoft guns are semis or full autos.
;)
Toolfreak387
11-28-2001, 07:33 PM
ok...whatever...you can so see the marks of airsoft. it hurts worse than paintball. my airsoft gun shoots at 410 fps. and those little bb's hurt like a mother. until you play it. dont bash it
Scullyvan
11-29-2001, 03:56 AM
airsoft is fun to play
tones888
11-29-2001, 08:27 AM
see, tool? i also agree with you. I play paintball ALL the time, and i have airsoft guns too.
The thing LOTS of people in america don't know is airsoft is HUGE in japan, hong kong, and Europe--tournaments, 72 hour games, small to big skirmishes, awesome technology. it's just as fun as paintball, and they DO hurt, they do leave marks, and you will KNOW WHEN YOU're HIT and you WILL call yourself out cuz it hurts so much and you DON't wanna get lit up by an airsoft gun.
It's the same game, but different tools. I think BOTH airsoft and paintball are awesome and VERY fun.
I'm sure about 70% of paintball players never even touched an airsoft, but they are very quick to knock it cuz it's "different" from paintball. VISE versa applies too! lots of airsoft guys haven't touched paintball guns, and they are quick to knock paintball too!
tones888
11-29-2001, 08:58 AM
here's an examples of airsoft hits at about 350fps.
NOthing is like unleashing a fury of bb's at 800 bb's per minute. Just like NOTHing is like unleashing a an electro paintball gun on turbo. I've been playing paintball since about 1993, and let me tell you, airsoft can be just as fun, as long as you're playing with honest people--just like paintball. besides, it's jUST as easy to cheat in paintball. i've seen so many people wipe in my years of playing.
i like this discussion cuz both are so much fun to play!
tones888
11-29-2001, 09:58 AM
now for question #2, why are paintballers so "against" airsoft??
and vise versa applies too.
here are the arguements on both sides:
paintballers--> "airsoft guns mimic real ones, and they give 'shooting games' a bad wrap...and you can cheat too easily in airsoft. Airsoft guns break so easily."
airsoft guys--> "paintball guns are too inaccurate, and they look funny, like lowriders cars with all the anodising. Fields don't allow full auto firing of paintguns, which takes lots of fun out of having a high end paintball gun...paintball games are full of young kids with big heads who talk trash all day...ect ect"
Is one hobby "better" than the other or are they only different??
let's hear it !!!
TheZephyr
11-29-2001, 11:06 AM
Airsoft is kinda fun, but its not paintball. Airsoft has realistic guns which are kinda nice, but they really don't shoot close to as far as paintballs, and are only good for close range battles. I goof around with firends while playing airsoft ecery once and a while, but I'm more serious about paintball.
ciaran.mooney
11-29-2001, 11:06 AM
Well seeing as there is a airsoft team at the bottom of the fields where i play i think i have some insight into them.
They call themselves "Fireball Squadron" and these guys are serious! They have to pay rent to the paintball field (s******) and one kid only about 20-25 was standing there in full camo (thats not the bad bit) in a little red beret, with insignia, to attension! Looked like someone who had tried to join the army but was refused.
They even play (note the use of "play") to the rules of engagement, i.e.
Paintball - You see opposition, you tell your four mates, you try to shoot the crap outta them
Airsoft/Fireball Squadreon - You see "enemy", you radio base to request authorisation to fire - boring!
Suppose you have to be a certain person to play airsoft, one of my mates used to play it outlaw style, and wore a metal mask! With a padlock on the back to make sure it wouldn't come off, how uncomfortable would that be after 10 mins??
Incube
11-29-2001, 11:46 AM
Air soft is really just for military/gun freaks that should me locked up!
tones888
11-29-2001, 12:18 PM
haha!!! good points and insightful comments. yeah, I take paintball more seriously as well. airsoft is something I play not for competition, but for fun only.
lots of the airsoft guys i know really "do it up," meaning they, too, go all out and use tac radios and get all dressed up. It does take a particular type of person to play airsoft, just as it does for paintball as well.
Richy_C
11-29-2001, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by tones888
a particular type of person to play airsoft, just as it does for paintball as well.
A regular psychopath, and an athletic loaded pyscho path?
J/k
tones888
11-29-2001, 01:07 PM
haha! yeah, both kinds are psychopaths, but one is a bit more eccentric than the other. BOTH like to "run and shoot" things/people/ animals (j/k)
pr0kch0p
11-29-2001, 02:27 PM
wow. tones you are pissing me off. i dont know any pyschopath paintball players, i dont like to run, im fat and unathletic. i dont like to shoot things. i like to play paintball, i dont play paintball to run and shoot people. i play paintball to play paintball. its a sport, not an emulation.
people that play airsoft want realism, they want to do what they see on TV, on movies, etc. they want to be that tough army dude. airsoft is an emulation.
airsoft is for armed forces rejects. fat ****ing nerds who study army **** and then try to reinact it, like those civil war morons.
xtrasplatr
11-29-2001, 02:37 PM
how do you compete if you have a frickin springer?! of course you're gonna get a automatic. and you'll get shot if you play around with those guns. i am like the zephyer. i goof around, but i don't take it seriously. some people might try to report you to the police if they see you playing around with this stuff.
tones888
11-29-2001, 02:40 PM
no need to get pissed off, pork. this is just a friendly discussion. in fact, i like your "focused energy and your adamant support of paintball." Everyone plays paintball for different reasons. my personal reasons for playing paintball have shifted and changed over the many years, as i'm sure yours will as well.
you're exactly right in that Airsoft is an emulation of something real. That's why it takes a special kind of person with special interests to play it, just like paintball. The bottom line is this: airsoft AND paintball can fun as hell.
And please don't say you don't like to run around and shoot people while they try to shoot you cuz that's what you're doing 100% of the time you're playing paintball (uless you're a camper who sits in the rear with the gear)!!! That's the whole fun about it!!
so is that you in that little pic under your name?
tones888
11-29-2001, 02:46 PM
xtra, i am like you and z as well. i don't take airsoft seriously cuz it's hard to. i fiddle with it and play for fun, not as a sport like paintball. and yes, you can NOT play with a springer cuz you'll get lit up like there's no tomorrow.
but hey, I will have to admit it's fun fiddling with airsoft guns cuz they're different. and yes again, you may get shot if you're carrying an airsoft around people who don't know about them, but you'd have to be an idiot to even do that..even with a paintball gun!!
thanks for your imput.
peace!;)
Omega6_Virus
11-29-2001, 03:58 PM
I personally would enjoy to play both sports. I was gonna go into airsoft but no one around here plays. Its mostly people in Canada that play. If I had the money to blow I'd consider getting into airsoft. One advantage is the price. You don't have to spend a lot to play as much as you do with paintball. Though the guns are high priced, you dont need to pay that much for air(only on some guns) and bb's.
tones888
11-29-2001, 04:04 PM
hey omega,
if you look hard enough, you can find people who play in the states. there are the Crimmerians, who travel around the country, i think.
airsoft is cheaper, definitely. isn't it crazy how you can mod the guns to shoot over 400 fps?? did you see the pic in this thread of that guy's arm?
what do you think about airsoft "mocking" the real life guns? good thing or bad? :cool:
justshootit20
11-29-2001, 04:14 PM
hey i gotta add somthign here, hwy the heck would you want to play air soft??!!! i've never played i gotta admit, but just looking at that pic those things have gotta hurt when you get hit. now wuts the fun in that??? i know pballs hurt but they dont leave bloody marks like those. and really do those air soft guns acctually have upgrades you can do to them??? upgrades can be incredibly fun to do with your gun. and why not let the airsoft freaks go off and jion the army if the're so into it. if they dont qualify for the army go to guard if they dont qualify for that go to reserve, or become a secutrity officer if they want to march around with a gun.
just my 2 cents
tones888
11-29-2001, 04:22 PM
hey just,
yea i hear ya. the thing is, it's not about having a toy that looks like a gun that's fun; it's shooting those damn things that's so fun. They just happen to look like real guns. They're plastic and part metal toys that spits out little bb's at about 500-800 bb's per minute (depending on your gun set up). Imagine taking that thing and spraying it at someone in the woods. LOADS OF FUN!
And yes, you can modify the crap out of these guns. And yes, it really does hurt when you get hit, which makes it so damn fun cuz you DON'T wanna get hit. If you don't call yourself out, you will get lit up. So imagine the price of cheating: a body full of those little blood welts. NOT WORTH IT TO CHEAT.
:P
And you know what just? Many many people would say the exact same thing you said about airsoft players, only to paintball players: "they should join the army....they should be security guards... they were rejected by the army...ect ect"
many of you may be a bit too young to remember the old paintball days when people ragged on us for being "para-military."
DeAd-EyE
11-30-2001, 02:39 PM
A thing to to to apease to both types of ppl would be to buy airsfot paint bb's. it's like a paintball but only it's airsoft bb sized. yes they do exist, my friend had a bunch of them. i hav't played airsoft but at least with the paint u know who's out.
tones888
11-30-2001, 02:45 PM
hey dead,
yeah i know what you're talking about. did those bb's leave any paint in the rifles? was it messy in any way?
good points, and good idea for a middle ground between 2 different ways of having fun.
DeAd-EyE
11-30-2001, 02:57 PM
they didn't seem to break in the airsoft gun too much..but then again it was a single shot pistol type..sot a fully auto 2500BB per second gatling gun replica (which r really kool but pricy). Sometimes the damned things would harden and not break on ppl but most of them worked properly.
Richy_C
11-30-2001, 02:58 PM
No, but it only makes that activity better, the fact remains that airsoft emulates war, and paintball is..... paintball.
tones888
11-30-2001, 03:08 PM
down to the bone, that is very true. you can't deny that airsoft guns are copies of real ones, and the application of airsoft guns is primarily in war game scenerios.
very good point that many airsofters tend to overlook.
Johnny_Bravo723
03-05-2002, 05:37 PM
ok well first off i'm addicted to paintball and have yet to find something that interests me any where near as much as paintball does. honetly i don't think you can compare paintball to airsoft the two sports have to completly different kinds of followings, while each has their own opinion about the other. some people will argue that it's more real and the guns a actual replicas, personally if your looking for some thing real go get a "real" gun and play cops and robbers that way. i don't play paintball to prepare for war i play because it gives me a rush like i'v never had and i love it.
sorry this is my bros name it wont log out so i cant change to justshootit20. o well. anyways some of my friends picked up on airsoft and my one friend has a gun and my other friend has three (he got a 100 dollar gun for free by mistake:rolleyes:) so they came over and we played a couple games in my barn and i liked it. it doesnt gouge your wallet everytime you go out and play. i think i'm gonna pick up on it as a side sport below paintball of course.
joey
FrOnTMaN
03-08-2002, 02:53 PM
airsoft is paintball on a serious crack binge. i mean paintball has it welts, but getting lit up with 20 shots at 400 fps doesnt sound that fun. maybe the immersion but that dies when ur hit. reality hits and ur mortal, and feel it. what kind of masks do they use that can permit a speed like that? is there a limit??? i mean, can someone walk on shooting like 1000fps? that would go trhough you.
that doesnt sound fun:|
Gypsy06
03-09-2002, 12:50 PM
Ok I have to say that I'm fuzzy on this whole "paintball isn't a war game" thing. Last time I checked we were toting guns and shooting at opponents. No it's not military training but it does qualify as a combat based game. Airsoft is definately more of a military or swat style game but the general idea is the same. My team shoots at your team and tries to eliminate playes on the way to the objective. The reason people started carrying the "we don't play war" and "it's a marker not a gun" flag's is because the politically correct freedom nazis tried to call paintballers para-military groups and wanted paintball guns to be subject to the same rules as firearms. Now sure there are some people who take airsoft too far but I see people who take paintball too far. Hell just look in any issue of APG and I guarantee that you'll see a couple pics of guys in full ghillie suits. The thing is that I don't see a problem with people dressing up in camo and ghillie suits any more than I see a problem with people wearing bright jerseys and red masks (jt IZE). What makes the tournament uniform right and the scenario/military uniform wrong?? If you like to play one way and you can find others who like to play that way then more power to ya, play on and have fun. I've played local tournaments, scenario games, rec, and airsoft and they all rock. I wear my JT purple jersey and my powder blue fles 7 for tourneys but I also have my BDU's for the woods. It just depends on what I'm in the mood for and I don't think that it should label me as a "military reject" if I want to carry my battery powered Mauri mp5 and zip off some bb's. To say that I should "get a real gun" and "go play war" is rediculous, mainly because my friends and I would only get one good game in if we did that :D. Seriously though as paintballers (and airsofters) we face enough prejudice, let's not make it worse by dividing ourselves.
Compton
03-09-2002, 03:40 PM
Most of you people here wouldn't understand the concept of playing airsoft for fun. You play paintball in a more competitive fashion. Therefore you need some ball full of crap to tell weather or not you're hit.
I play airsoft because it's fun, plain and simple. I like simulating military objectives and battles. The reason, I'm a thinking person. It doesn't take much to play on a field that is perfectly shaped like a rectangle 200 yards long and 60 yards wide. I find that very monotmonous. There's not a whole lot that you can do with impatient players. They can never play a game that last more than 1 hour. So instead they made a square field with blow up dildoes everywhere and had a blast. Well I may like a short CQB game like that every now and then, but I have more potential than that. I like trying different terrains and squad tactics. When you rely on your fellow team members to cover your back and you to cover theirs while moving in on a target or assaulting a base, it is a different adrenaline rush.
So for you hardcore paintballers, stay with your game of square fields and blow up dolls. I'll be in the middle of nowhere having fun with airsoft.
Codestar20
03-09-2002, 04:49 PM
Compton- Why do you come here and flame paintball? This is a paintball site, so you won't get anywhere saying crap about it.
I really don't like airsoft myself. A few friends have them but it just isn't for me.
Here is a story on why airsoft guns shouldn't be replicas:
My brother is a sheriff in California. He had a call of a burglary in a neighborhood and went to check it out. On the way he saw some kids walking towards him on railroad tracks. He thought they looked somewhat suspicious because of where they were walking and what they were wearing. He saw that one of them had a shiny object that looked like a gun. He drew his Glock and went through the procedure of saying stuff. The kid didn't respond and kept walking towards my bro. Finally the kid dropped the object. The kid turned out to have an airsoft pistol and my brother almost shot the kid because he was toting it around. Seems like a dumb idea to me.
Compton
03-09-2002, 05:22 PM
It's stupid when kids or any imature person has in their posession a gun of any kind, paintball or airsoft. These are unrelated issues of my arguement.
I'm saying that paintball is becoming a sport focusing on competition more and more. I wouldn't mind playing in a tournement again, but it isn't what I like most. I like playing soldier, not team mate. I'd rather take pride in being honest enough to call myself out when shot by an airsoft bb, not be yelled at when I may not know I got splattered.
So if I'm offending anyone because I like airsoft, realism, and fun over "cheat proof" ammo, neon uniforms, and stressed out tourny players, don't play with me. I'm not your type of player.
Paintball_Playa
03-09-2002, 06:44 PM
Oh yeah, too much paintball competition. There's what, 2% of all paintballers that are active tournament, real competition players in the world? Wow, we better watch out and scale down the tourney's.:rolleyes:
tryggerhappy
03-10-2002, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by pr0kch0p
delete this crap please.
if you even want to argue that airsoft is comparable to paintball then you need to kill yourself, now.
paintball = good
airsoft = bad
Thank you pr0kch0p, get this crap out of here
AIRSOFT SUCKS, I'VE PLAYED
bLaCkIcE22
03-10-2002, 12:49 PM
I like airsoft since i like real guns...i'm very interseted in them, but since airsoft is fookin illegal in NJ, i'm starting to play Paintballl
xXAFireInsideXx
03-10-2002, 11:26 PM
okay, I'm just curious--
compared to paintball, how is airsoft played?-
-Like, are there actually airsoft fields? and what do you use for bunkers? is airsoft played in small areas like speedball?
o, and want to know this too--
What do you wear for face/eye protection? like, a ski mask and goggles? or a paintball mask, or what?
-thanks.
jero000
03-10-2002, 11:45 PM
Airsoft is actually quite fun... i've played it for longer than paintball. i tend to prefer paintball over airsoft, but like some people out there, airsoft is cheaper than paintball... i tend to mess around with airsoft guns as they look so real and have a much faster firing rate than paintball guns...
I prefer paintball over airsoft, but thats just my 2 cents...
Super 3
03-11-2002, 02:15 PM
Well Compton i don't know how you managed it, but to go straight in to tourney style play and completely miss out on rec ball and scenario games. Not to mention playing in wood type fields or just out with some friends. You say paintball is bad b/c it's a bunch of guys playing on rectangular field with a bunch of inflatable dolls, therefore it seems to me that the only experience you've had is looking at tourney pics of paintball instead of actually playing it. Everything you mentioned that you like about airsoft i've done in paintball and got a lot more enjoyment out of it than i could with a gun replica shooting little plastic bb's at die hard military wannabes.
FrOnTMaN
03-11-2002, 02:19 PM
compton, where do u play paintball? do u just play on speedball fields? if so, then why??? you say u want to use terrain and strategies in paintball, then why play in a 200 by 200 foot field? go play some outlaw games in the woods. i prefer enourmus outdoor fields myslef, and playing with 20 people on each team is a blast. i can say that airsoft prob has the rush like paintball does, but airsoft really needs large fields to be played on. being 100 feet from your opponent and just ripping on auto isnt fun, but at distances and picking off shots prob is great. paintball is just more mini field friendly.
Compton
03-12-2002, 07:20 PM
I have played on some speedball fields once, but it is too fast for unorginized people to really have fun at it. I began playing paintball in recball or woods games. But my original group of friends just went for the competition of the game. So now I've found a new group of guys to play with. They play over a large area, about 3-5 acres. I like it a lot too.
But in general, most people are pushing for the competition end of paintball now. It's all about shooting more, upgrades, neon uniforms. I'm into paintball and airsoft for the fun of it. Not to see who's better at it.
Sorry to generalize way too much. I enjoy paintball with guys who play for the pure enjoyment. But I especially like airsoft since there's no competition about it whatsoever.
2k1AngelShooter
03-13-2002, 07:06 PM
Heres my beef with airsoft. It's fun, one of my local pb stores used to sell them and it'd be fun, I'd come in there to buy stuff and they'd all be playing it, jumping over the displays and stuff but heres my problem. I saw this happen a few times, a kid and his dad walk into the store, and the kid (who had probably finally convinced his dad to buy him a marker) sees the airsoft and goes "wow those are cool" and the dad looks at them and goes "wow my kid would get shot if he waved that in front of a cop...". Then he walks out buying neither. I can't say I blame him, as a pro-gunner and a very involved paintballer I have a hard time w/ anything that makes either look worse. Is airsoft fun? Kind of...I mean if you are wise enough to know the difference but it is MUCH harder to convince people that airsofts are just for fun.
Course, I could be talking out my *****
splatterpunx
03-13-2002, 07:44 PM
2k i agree ,i will not flame airsoft,it's not for me ,BUT to each there own.
my concerns are this ,i do not like airsoft being coupled with paintball,paintball is not a war sport,some people do the reinactment stuff,scenarios etc,but the game was not originated as a war game,it was and still is just tag,or the came we all know and love capture the flag.
they are 2 seperate sports and i think they need to be kept that way,i have been in a local store that stocks lots of airsoft and heard concerned parents discussing if they should leave or not because of the replicas,firearm replicas give our sport a very bad image and the people who want to shut paintball down are looking for fuel for there fire.
2k1AngelShooter
03-13-2002, 09:49 PM
It was Ace was it splat?
elTwitcho
03-13-2002, 10:02 PM
I just can't see myself really enjoying it. What I'd like to do is buy one of those cheap 20 guns that are electric but only shoot about 100 feet per second and just wail on people in my house. Beyond that, I can't imagine enjoying a sport that focuses not so much on gameplay as it does simulating combat. Paintball eveolved onto airball fields because that was a natural progression for the sport, airsoft will never evolve onto a field that plays better in terms of the sport unless it also simulates combat. For me, that's too limiting
2k1AngelShooter
03-13-2002, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by elTwitcho
I just can't see myself really enjoying it. What I'd like to do is buy one of those cheap 20 guns that are electric but only shoot about 100 feet per second and just wail on people in my house. Beyond that, I can't imagine enjoying a sport that focuses not so much on gameplay as it does simulating combat. Paintball eveolved onto airball fields because that was a natural progression for the sport, airsoft will never evolve onto a field that plays better in terms of the sport unless it also simulates combat. For me, that's too limiting
I couldn't agree more, double that for the screwing around at home with my buddys thing. But exactly, I mean who are you fooling when you are shooting your buddies with the exact as the real thing looking guns? Nothing against it, but if your going to upset that some people have concerns about it's image try to understand why. Thats the problem with alot of paintballers as well, when people get upset and say it's to war like alot of people get upset back. Relax and show logicaly and rationaly explain to them why it's not, don't flame.
Case in point, Dont Flame
splatterpunx
03-14-2002, 10:13 AM
2k- it was i&i,theyve been on the airsoft thing for years
2k1AngelShooter
03-14-2002, 03:48 PM
Oh ya, I forgot they were out of CA. Hey are you playing that tourney at WAP on the 14th?
ok, i think i can settle this whole "AIRSOFT IS BAD BECAUSE IT EMULATES WAR" argument. Even though i am not a fan of airsoft myself because those darn things HURT, I will still defend it because many people don't share that particular opinion. and here is my argument, how many of you out there honestly got into paintball to play a "sport" just for fun and didn't get into it because you like the idea of shooting at someone and "emulating" a battle type situation. now there may be some of you out there that got into paintball just for the "sport of it" and the "comradeship" but i would be willing to bet that 90% of the rec ballers out there and a lot of the tourney players got into it to run around in the woods and shoot at people with guns. hell, I KNOW I DID!!! just because my tastes have changed since then and now i see the sport side of it doesn't mean that that initial primal urge to shoot other people is bad, it just makes it different from my opinions now. I just like the fact that in both cases people have found a way to vent that urge on a weekly basis without resorting to actual violence.
2k1AngelShooter
03-14-2002, 05:52 PM
Yes I agree, I mentioned that in my post. Problem is for me, Airsoft resembles just a little to closely and they do Hurt like He**.
Hey, I LOVE your avatar, I have that album in vinyl still!
PBSyndicate
03-14-2002, 07:03 PM
Do people ever get bunkered in airsoft? Just curious, I've never actually seen the sport played. Bunkering someone is one of the most fun things about paintball (to me anyway) and I just don't see that happening in airsoft. Correct me if I'm wrong, but airsoft probably isn't as fast paced...it would be like a game of paintball but with all back players just laying down fire. Again, I don't know, I've never seen it.
really?!!?? cool man, i have got to be the biggest pink floyd fan in the state of north carolina. i would kill for their box set, so far all i have is the wall, dark side of the moon, and that new echoes that just came out, it's like their greatest hits or something. i just wish i could have seen them in their golden age, when they were still touring and stuff, like you apparently did.
2k1AngelShooter
03-15-2002, 12:13 PM
Ohhh, no I never got the chance to saw them, though I WISH I had, the studio owner we record in he did, he said it was awsome. My gf has I think its the Wall live, it's GREAT, the quality is exception and it really is perfect playing...wish I had more time to chat,
Doug
Ebonclaw
03-15-2002, 12:14 PM
Ok, I opened this thread and didn't bother to read a single word. I already know how it reads without telling you. There's some people saying "Paintball rules, airsoft sucks", there's a few saying "Airsoft is waay better than paintball" and a few saying "Who gives a flying fark and a rolling donut?"
To each his own. Unless it means some guy is trying to rape me.
Johnny_Bravo723
08-29-2002, 07:33 PM
FOR ALL THOSE AIRSOFT PLAYERS WHO PLAY BECAUSE IT MIMICS WAR!
the most important word in that sentence "PLAY",what happens when your hit...(you WALK off the feild) no matter how real the guns are or how much it hurts you're not dead at the end so no matter what you do the GAME couldn't be further from reality. same goes for paintball, but i think all paintballers think that way, which may atribute the neon clothes and the blobs of paint. i love paintball and i've played airsoft but it didn't give me any where near the same rush. and know one needs to tell me about realism... i am on DEP into the ARMY to be special forces so after you've made a decission like that you can talk about realism.
Jiggaman8604
08-29-2002, 08:00 PM
on such a touchy subject i can say only one thing... please do not take people like tryggerhappy seriously i belive his quote was "Thank you pr0kch0p, get this crap out of here
AIRSOFT SUCKS, I'VE PLAYED" now if you want to be taken seriously as a human being with an IQ over the needed amount to drool i would say post something with taste that is long enough to seriously explain how you feel AND BACK IT UP!!....there is nothing i hate more than a flamer... but with airsoft and paintball, i suggest everyone buy a 20 dollar airsoft, put on your masks and shoot at your friends in a basement. its fun if you cant play in the dead of winter or are too poor to afford a case at the moment. BUT ALWAYS WEAR YOUR MASK. those little bb's have some stank on them:laugh:
starboarder2001
08-29-2002, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by tones888
here's an examples of airsoft hits at about 350fps.
NOthing is like unleashing a fury of bb's at 800 bb's per minute. Just like NOTHing is like unleashing a an electro paintball gun on turbo. I've been playing paintball since about 1993, and let me tell you, airsoft can be just as fun, as long as you're playing with honest people--just like paintball. besides, it's jUST as easy to cheat in paintball. i've seen so many people wipe in my years of playing.
i like this discussion cuz both are so much fun to play!
oooo wow i bet that hurt:laugh: .....what are the refs gona do strip u down and check for hit marks? how do they know if u got hit from the last game? its sounds dumb to me......a bunch of military wannabes.
Wuzup101
08-29-2002, 08:52 PM
You should all go down to the closest sporting goods store and buy some .308's and have fun...real war :laugh:
xLiLHockeyFreak
08-29-2002, 11:29 PM
i guess here, in california atleast, paintball is more of a sport, and bb guns and airsoft are for having fun with friends, or just shooting around, its cheap, and it leaves no paint splatters when u want to shoot in ur backyard...you can buy 2 bb guns for the price of a paintball trigger..... sometimes.... i like paintball alot its just very expensive, but i think its worth it nothing is cheap
PbAllWiZZ
08-30-2002, 05:53 AM
Also, I think right now isnt; really the best tiem to talk about this after the whold paintball is g a y .c om incident, NE ways, I ma personnally open minded to these things and would like to try airsoft, and I was wondering, I want a gun or twot hat I can fool around with my friend with inside my basement and shoot like 100-150 fps and use plastic BB's (I'm not interested in bloody welts) for rainy days, I mean, I would still take P ball more seriously but just for soemthin to do, so could NE of yu airsoft buff give me some good sites?And are paintaball masks exceptasble in airsoft as face protection, thanx!!!
comprocket
08-30-2002, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by starboarder2001
what are the refs gona do strip u down and check for hit marks? how do they know if u got hit from the last game?
Well, Its a little thing called HONESTY! Something many paintball players lack! You may find this hard to believe, but some people will actually call them selves out when they are Hit?!?!?! Sounds crazy huh?
(Note the sarcasm...)
I like paintball, but who can say that they dont wanna shoot an exact replica of an M16???? I have used many military training simulators, and I can honestly say that shooting the real thing so sooooo much cooler than a paintball gun!!!
Jus my 2 Cents!!!!
starboarder2001
08-30-2002, 06:47 AM
Originally posted by comprocket
Well, Its a little thing called HONESTY! Something many paintball players lack! You may find this hard to believe, but some people will actually call them selves out when they are Hit?!?!?! Sounds crazy huh?
(Note the sarcasm...)
I like paintball, but who can say that they dont wanna shoot an exact replica of an M16???? I have used many military training simulators, and I can honestly say that shooting the real thing so sooooo much cooler than a paintball gun!!!
Jus my 2 Cents!!!!
that is the thing...u want a real looking wana be war type "GUN". I want to play the sport of paintball with my marker. I just cant see how a paintball player could say that they would rather run around with a m16 than a cocker or matrix or angel.:|
also about the airsoft players being honest and all that....I bet u cant tell how much cheating is going on because your shooting eachother with bbs.
Just my 2 Cents!!!! :|
Phobos321
08-30-2002, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by tones888
..paintball guns are too inaccurate, and they look funny, like lowriders cars with all the anodising...
I like lowrider cars... Chevys are good :cool:
FrOnTMaN
08-30-2002, 08:03 PM
too inaccurate for what situation? markers werent made for long range battles. Speedball is slowly taking over, as like other concept field play. The sport is adapting to what our limitations are and will soon make the need to shoot a million miles accuracting not needed.
If you want to snipe people and act like ur in the military without being in the military then play airsoft. i dont know why you would try and do the same in paintball. it wont work.
your opinion that paintball guns look funny is only your opinion. im sure someone here thinks that running around with a 1:1 replica of an mg42(m16, whatever) is ever more silly. i feel the same.
and last, the honor system., if airsoft were ever to become a serious sport, involving anything at stake of a match/round/game would become nothing more then an uninforcable rule. just like in any paintball tourney, people play on with an unobvious hit, even though they felt it. But due to the large mark it makes, refs can find them fairly fast. with airsoft on the other hand, hiding a hit is much much easier. why would anyone give up the opportunity to win something if they didnt have to. how would refs check for hits? the only time someone would say there out was if they couldnt take any pain. but with any money on the line, i wouldnt mind biting the bullet for it.
which is why i believe airsoft will be doomed as a hobby, not a sport, if the current bb's and guns are kept.
my 2 cents
StinkyGenius
08-31-2002, 07:41 PM
im sorry guys and i may just be a biased paintball fan but i dont like the idea of airsoft at all. I got seriously into paintball for fun not to simulate war and i soon got into the tourney side of it. If paintball was played with realistic looking markers my parents would have never allowed me to start playing paintball. War is not a game............i never want to simulate war as i feel it is disrespectful to the people in the army as war isnt a game and so reinacting it is making a game of somthing that isnt. I never wanted to walk around with an m16 replica as m16 are for soldiers fighting in wars not for people playing a game for fun. I love electronic markers and small fields and the "inflatable dolls" refered to earlier. Me and my friends and many other paintballers are fighting a constant battle to gain public recognition for paintball and so being asociaed with a sport in which realistic guns are used is not good for paintballs image. I wil probablyl never play airsoft as it is too close to real war and i love paintball way too much.
starboarder2001
08-31-2002, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by StinkyGenius
im sorry guys and i may just be a biased paintball fan but i dont like the idea of airsoft at all. I got seriously into paintball for fun not to simulate war and i soon got into the tourney side of it. If paintball was played with realistic looking markers my parents would have never allowed me to start playing paintball. War is not a game............i never want to simulate war as i feel it is disrespectful to the people in the army as war isnt a game and so reinacting it is making a game of somthing that isnt. I never wanted to walk around with an m16 replica as m16 are for soldiers fighting in wars not for people playing a game for fun. I love electronic markers and small fields and the "inflatable dolls" refered to earlier. Me and my friends and many other paintballers are fighting a constant battle to gain public recognition for paintball and so being asociaed with a sport in which realistic guns are used is not good for paintballs image. I wil probablyl never play airsoft as it is too close to real war and i love paintball way too much.
same here.
Dynasty_PB
08-31-2002, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by Compton
I have played on some speedball fields once, but it is too fast for unorginized people to really have fun at it. I began playing paintball in recball or woods games. But my original group of friends just went for the competition of the game. So now I've found a new group of guys to play with. They play over a large area, about 3-5 acres. I like it a lot too.
But in general, most people are pushing for the competition end of paintball now. It's all about shooting more, upgrades, neon uniforms. I'm into paintball and airsoft for the fun of it. Not to see who's better at it.
Sorry to generalize way too much. I enjoy paintball with guys who play for the pure enjoyment. But I especially like airsoft since there's no competition about it whatsoever.
Unorginized? lol :laugh:
Sorry Airsoft just doesnt intrest me
peace.love.unity
Sluggo
08-31-2002, 08:54 PM
I thought airsoft was cool at a time, I was like woah this is way cheaper then paintball, and the guns look real, sweet. So I sold my paintball stuff and bought a gas Mac11 that shoots 20bbs a second at 350fps. Then I was like **** nobody plays airsoft, this sucks. So I bought new paintball stuff and Im trying to sell my airsoft stuff, but noone wants it because Airsoft is dumb.
Moral of story is Dont play airsoft its dumb, go join the marines if you wanna play war. We will see who'll be pissin there pants when a bullet flys by ur head
FrOnTMaN
08-31-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Sluggo
I thought airsoft was cool at a time, I was like woah this is way cheaper then paintball, and the guns look real, sweet. So I sold my paintball stuff and bought a gas Mac11 that shoots 20bbs a second at 350fps. Then I was like **** nobody plays airsoft, this sucks. So I bought new paintball stuff and Im trying to sell my airsoft stuff, but noone wants it because Airsoft is dumb.
Moral of story is Dont play airsoft its dumb, go join the marines if you wanna play war. We will see who'll be pissin there pants when a bullet flys by ur head
moral of hte story is that you are stupid in the first place for impulse buying something u couldnt use.
Sluggo
09-01-2002, 07:24 AM
No actually one of my friends had 18 acres but he moved right after I bought it. And Im sure you never impulse buy either
FrOnTMaN
09-01-2002, 12:07 PM
your right, i have. but nothing of that magnitude. i never sold anything for something i "thought" would be cool.
BlackMagic23
09-01-2002, 12:21 PM
ok i didnt read the whole thread but, i play both and hears my opinions. Paintball is better, i cant say exactly why but it is. I agree with sumone the bloody holes/welts are stupid. me and my friends just use the little electric airsoft guns they are only little 20 dollars and only shoot like 280fps. so we go to my downstairs set up things to hide behind and have fun, thats it. But paintball is way better. :yell:
DeFauLt
09-01-2002, 06:23 PM
here's a stupid worthless flash i made a while back about airsoft. enjoy! (this i best viewed with a maximized window.)
http://fweo.netfirms.com/stupidworthlessairsoftjoke.swf
D-RoK
09-01-2002, 06:34 PM
Ok, here goes. I enjoy playing both paintball AND airsoft. They are both equally enjoyable. And they each offer different things. Paintball offers IMO an almost instant adrenaline rush that lasts throughout the game. In Airsoft there is not a constant adrenaline rush, there is time spent lying in wait ready to spring an ambush or waiting for the opposing force to assualt a base. Both games usually require the use of teamwork. It is easier to tell if someone is shot with a paintball than a BB, but Airsoft started in Japan so it relies on honor (no offence to Japan or anyone who is Japanese for using a possible stereotype). Airsoft BBs are far cheaper than paintballs ($8.50 for 3700 BBs vs. roughly $50-80 2000 paintballs). Both airsoft/paintball offer a wide range of markers/guns. You can use alot of cool gear like Tac-Vests, nightvision goggles, radios, etc. in airsoft, but not so much paintball. Airsoft guns are ALOT more accurate than paintball guns (not the cheap airsoft guns). Tactics that would work in paintball usually don't work in airsoft, trying to rush a bunker will usually result in being cutdown by automatic weapon fire before you make it 10 feet. Ok, I think I've scratched the surface, there is alot more info.
Here in New England we have a Airsoft group, North Eastern Airsoft Group (NEASG) that consists of 430+ members. There are many airsoft events held every month around New England, and the "OpForce" events usually draw 100+ participants. To learn more about the NEASG you can visit NEASG (http://www.neasg.net)
I am on the airsoft team Ground Assualt Infanrty and we participate as a squad at many NEASG events. Team G.A.I. (http://www.team-gai.tk)
Here is alittle bit more info: Airsoft BBs hurt less for a shorter period of time than paintballs do. BBs have alot less mass than paintballs so they can be shot faster and still hurt less. Most of the photos you see of people with bloody little welts from airsoft BBs are from unsafe airsofting.
If you have any questions about airsoft you can shoot me an e-mail and I'd be glad to answer any of your questions :) drok826@yahoo.com
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