rat jr

[dragun1217]

wat should i get and consider both option : either a when it comes out 05 vf cocker or a rat jr impy.

[toothpastedog]

a stock rjr will perform better than any stock vertical feed cocker... so, get the rjr

[dragun1217]

i meant a ebladed 05 vf

[Azn_Boy]

1st lets see that weird version of the 05 cocker suxs since the 3-way is like inside the body and since it is.........how could u get a e-blade/worrblade if u wanted 1 when there is no place to put it on

2nd the rjr would kill the 05 cocker cause its nice, cheap, and really good when it comes to value

[toothpastedog]

hoe much money do you have to spend on it after you get a gun, cause a stock rjr is still better than just a stock 05 cocker with just an eblade... but a 05 cocker with a new bolt, ram, and qev's, and an eblade will just barely out perform a rjr with, lets say, and eq board...

[dpr827]

rjr no doubt... but if you're thinkin about spendin the money for an ebladed cocker, spend the extra $$$ for an '03 rat

[Azn_Boy]

like i say again.........u CANT put a e-blade on it because the 3-way is INSIDE the body which makes u impossible to put 1

also u cant even put an aftermarket 3-way so not there is no way u can put the 5-way selinoid in from the e-blade

[Dark Master]

Actually,i read a post on WGPpress.com and one guys from wgp said that the trilogy series was not the 05 cockers,they were made to target the lower-end guns such as spyders and tippmanns.When the 05 cockers come out,they will be like $350 and have removeable 3-way so u can put a eblade on it.

[Azn_Boy]

ooooo that explains the really low prices

[Dark Master]

Yea,and i think its a good thing they did that cause WGP is a famous name and lots of people know them.Now that they have cheap 'cockers,more people will buy them.

[Dark Master]

Sry for double posting but heres the link: http://www.wgppress.com/viewtopic.php?t=39085&highlight=wgp+trilogy

[OSUARCHITECT]

It all depends on your cash flow...I have a tricked out '04 cocker (see sig.) and I've dumped tons of cash into it. It has everything except an e-blade. I was waiting to see what happened when the E2 hit to decide if I wanted to buy the E1 or E2 when I just decided to sell it and go with an Rjr stage 2. I realized that what I wanted was speed and a lighter gun that's a little easier to maintain. I love my autococker don't get me wrong, it’s an awesome machine and it potential is limitless if you have the time and money to spend on it. If I was you and I had a bunch of cash lying around I probably would still get an '04 cocker and an E2 just because I think the E2 are going to be really sweet. The '05 probably will look a little different than the '04's cocker but my guess is they will perform about the same and be more expensive. Here's the catch though. If you buy a cocker and want to get all the performance out of it you really need to get good parts and good parts aren't cheap. You really need to get a nexus ram with QEV’s, a good regulator, and a good bolt to start with. Otherwise you’re kind of wasting the potential that an e blade gives you. Not to mention that you will need to get at least 1 good barrel and probably some sort of barrel set like the Freak, Kaner, or Stiffi sets. Paint to barrel match is one of the keys to shooting accurately with any gun but to an autococker it’s also the key to not having the balls roll right out of the barrel. Everyone debates on whether autocockers are more accurate than other stock open bolt guns and I'm here to tell you that they are more accurate but its not because they shoot more accurately its because they have less recoil beings as they fire from a closed bolt position, consequently also the reason that the ball rolls out of the barrel. However, if you set up a rat correctly you will get about the same performance, and for a heck of a lot less money and time, believe me I own both guns.

[zWGP]

this 05 cocker sounds freaky. where can i find some photos?

[Dark Master]

The "05" cockers havnt been released yet,but they did come out with the trilogy series.