tippy or autococker

[Cracker344]

im posiibly thinkin about gettin a tippman 98 sniper edition or the 2001-02 autococker. but what is the operating pressuer of the tippy? and does the flatline break on clothing and stuff, because of the backspin?

[Scullyvan]

get a cocker

[Candlewick]

Ditto. End of story, get the Cocker.

[Eladamri]

Get the cocker, but unless you are extremely good on working on stuff I would suggest buying one from a local store rather than on the internet because they are probably the most difficult markers to work on and need to be timed occasionally. Most local stores will work on guns purchased there for free labor and take the time to show you how to work on your own gun. Also the stock cockers are great, but if you get serious about upgrading the gun with new pneumatics, trigger frame, bolt etc. it could possibly turn into a 1000+ gun. The tippmann on the other hand is relatively easy to work on, and doesn't require the maintenance a cocker will. You probably won't ever need to do any upgrading to the sniper package even though I would recommend buying a Tippmann C98 and flatline without that other crap and adding what you wanted, it will probably cost about the same as the complete sniper kit but with stuff you handpicked. Another option if you are looking in the 300 dollar price range is to get the TKO Automag powerfeed package listed at www.pbgear.com for 299.99. This package comes with just about everything you will need for the gun. Smart Parts Progressive barrel, Gas through foregrip and bottomline. The only thing you may want to add is a drop forward. This gun is extremely easy to work on, A blind, drunk chimp should be able to work on one of these. But both the automag and autococker should ideally be run on Nitrogen. I would strongly recommend Nitro for those guns, or at the least an expansion chamber and antisiphon tank or remote.

[Cracker344]

see i like the assult rifle style, but see i have a pirahana w/nitro and the autococker is lp soi would need a new nitro tank, but if i got a tippman i would kno how to work on it and not need a new nitro + i would get the flatline, resonse system, cool stock and then get a remote that works on the tippy and pirahna

[Pookister569]

if u do get the tippmann sniper kit, i hope u play mostly in the woods because the gun is gonna be pretty long.

[liquidsoul_sm]

Originally posted by Cracker344
see i like the assult rifle style, but see i have a pirahana w/nitro and the autococker is lp soi would need a new nitro tank, but if i got a tippman i would kno how to work on it and not need a new nitro + i would get the flatline, resonse system, cool stock and then get a remote that works on the tippy and pirahna

The stock autococker is not LP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your tank would work fine. Get the autococker. By the time you put all of that money into the tippmann you could have bought an autococker, barrel, and some balls.

[NoNames]

If you're experienced, get a cocker. But you said, and here's the quote, "but see i have a pirahana w/nitro and the autococker is lp soi would need a new nitro tank..." so I don't see why you would want a tippmann vs. and autococker. The gun you're talking about is definetly for long range shots/outdoor/scenario games only. If you're playing 3-5 mn tournaments, i wouldn't use it. Maybe a 10 man, but you might get laughed off the field. If you think you're experienced enough to own an autococker and won't short stroke the trigger, then get it. And liquidsoul is right, again. They don't come lp stock.

[ColdFusion]

1st. get the autococker it is a better guna and definintley worth the money i love mine.

2nd it is not low pressure(300 psi and below) it is just really low high preesure,400 psi, the operating pressure of a tippmann is 800 or 850 psi.

3rd even if it were low pressure you would not have to buy a new nitro tank because it dose not matter what the input pressure is as long as it is higher than the guns operating pressure, so you dont need a tank to ajust the press ure that is what you inline/front end regs are for

[Crime Dog]

I mighta read it wrong, but I thought I read something about getting the flatline AND the response trigger? No no no no no. If that's what your're thinking, don't do it! Here's the reasons:

Unless you get the flatline lined up perfectly, you're going to have curving shots. If you don't get the barrel tapped all the way into the barrel, you'll get ball breaks.

Even if you DO get it right, you may still have problems with the flatline. I had bought one, and though I had everything installed correctly, and lined up correctly, it's performance was NOT that exciting.

Adding a response trigger would only make it worse. Plus, if you get the RT, you should probably get a revvy so that ball feed could keep up.

Kinda defeats the purpose of a sniper setup. Snipers don't shoot volume...they shoot accuracy.

As much as I love my 98, if I had a choice between the Tippy setup you mentioned, and a Cocker, I'd go with the cocker too...