Time to PIMP an Autococker

[quietkiller88]

Yo guys. I have been savin up money for awhile now and I have somewhere near 700 dollars. Does anyone know where I could find an Autococker for like 200-250 so I have plenty of money left to buy the upgrades I want for my P-I-M-P-E-D gun? Thanks for the help.

[penguins_r_kewl]

Uh, if you want to stay mech, I definatly recommend a Dye frame. My friend has one on his cocker and I can seriously shoot it as fast as my Omen.

[Creaker]

$225 for 03 cockers at action village. I think it would be better & smarter to just build your own. Not to mention it will teach you a lot about the gun and the way it operates.

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Why do you want a PIMPED cocker? You could get something better for $700.

[Blacksheep]

Get a Nightkast or something. Really, a pimped mech Autococker isn't that great of a marker for $700.00. For that you could find used high ends like newer Angels, Intimidators, etc.

But if you must have an Autococker, look in our own forum and try to find a gun for $200.00, maybe a '99 RF or something.

[|GB|]

Originally posted by Blacksheep
But if you must have an Autococker, look in our own forum and try to find a gun for $200.00, maybe a '99 RF or something.


Dont get a RF cocker. Get a 2K3, that way you'll have about $500 left over for upgrades.

[kl1223]

I think paintballgateway.com has '03 verts for around $225.

But for $700 I wouldn't built a 'Cocker. IMO you should look around the trading forums and try to get a 2k2 Timmy, Viking, or something of that sort.

[Blacksheep]

Originally posted by |GB|



Dont get a RF cocker. Get a 2K3, that way you'll have about $500 left over for upgrades.

Excuse me?

Why not?

If he get's an old '99 it will probably cost around $150.00-$175.00, leaving him with the most money for add-on and accessories.

The 2k3 is around $225.00-$250.00 and he is just paying for milling since he will replace all parts anyway.

[mopo-85]

Originally posted by Blacksheep



The 2k3 is around $225.00-$250.00 and he is just paying for milling since he will replace all parts anyway.

ummm nooo. different hunge better vert feed WAY better now mor damn elbows. and it is sexier....

[robdamanii]

An ebladed cocker is as fast as ANYTHING else out there.

It's a quite capable marker.

Go for an 03 and get a couple of nice upgrades.

[kl1223]

Originally posted by Blacksheep
Why not?

R/F is a big pain, it limits your speed and is also very unbalanced.

[PeYToN-SS]

Originally posted by dog-of-Dislexia
Why do you want a PIMPED cocker? You could get something better for $700.

Dog speaks the truth.

[Downfall08]

Originally posted by dog-of-Dislexia
Why do you want a PIMPED cocker? You could get something better for $700.
i have to agree. For $700 or a little more there are tons of choices. But if you really want a cocker get it.

[Jeezer]

Originally posted by robdamanii
An ebladed cocker is as fast as ANYTHING else out there.

It's a quite capable marker.

Go for an 03 and get a couple of nice upgrades.

IMHO Ebladed cockers feel a little too sluggish, and if you want the e-blade to go fast you have to buy so many other things. Lighter backblock, titanium pump arm, and then some.

[jakesak]

for 700, you can find one of the most pimpest cockers. Infact for 650 I know where to find an E-cocker that I would buy and not mess with.

[pbhippie ben]

Its not worth "pimping" a cocker for $700. As many others have told you, you can find a lot more markers for that price.

[Blacksheep]

With the new generation of force-feed loaders and the fact that it will be a mechanical autococker more than likely, feed rate should not be a problem.

Also let's note, even with the E-Blade, he probably won't be busting out 50bps.

The Hinge is highly overrated. I love it to death and still prefer it, but there are many better mechanical frames on the market and if you want the pimpest Autococker...it will be replaced.

As far as balance...we're talking 1", even with the A-5 it doesn't feel too bad to have an offset feed.

[travsstuff]

Originally posted by Creaker
$225 for 03 cockers at action village. I think it would be better & smarter to just build your own. Not to mention it will teach you a lot about the gun and the way it operates.

agreed

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by Jeezer


IMHO Ebladed cockers feel a little too sluggish, and if you want the e-blade to go fast you have to buy so many other things. Lighter backblock, titanium pump arm, and then some.

With the correct settings, we've gotten my teammates e-orracle cyccling just as fast as my teammates timmy.

[teufelhunden]

Blacksheep, the thing with the older [pre-2k] 'Cockers is they have a smaller internal air chamber, so if he does eblade it he'll see shootdown issues [well, depending, but its definitley a possibility] unless he has an LPC out front.

As for the RFs, meh. You said to throw a HAL on there, but then its a mound of weight off to the side. Also, no eyes with an RF, should be decide to race/eblade it.

[Cliche]

Pull. Bounce. Bounce. Bou-Bounce. B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-Bouce. It was cycling just as fast.

[quietkiller88]

I want a cocker because I could get a pretty good one for cheap with plenty of money left to make it awesome. Plus, just buying an Angel is *** because I'd rather have the pleasure of customizing my marker rather than buying the gun and having no money left. THANKS. And does anyone know where I could get the '99 cocker for less than $200 or the '01 cocker for a little more???

[dog-of-Dislexia]

We tried...have fun with your cocker...

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by dog-of-Dislexia
We tried...have fun with your cocker...

If you don't want him to buy the marker HE wants, why don't you pony up the dough and buy him what YOU want him to buy, eh?

[dog-of-Dislexia]

I was actually being sincere. Honestly I don't really care what gun he has I was just trying to recommend things I think he might be happier and more competitive with in the long run.I think there are better choices we recommended to him but he wanted to choose for himself, so I hope he likes his gun.:tup:

So why don't YOU take it easy and get off MY back?

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by dog-of-Dislexia
I was actually being sincere. Honestly I don't really care what gun he has I was just trying to recommend things I think he might be happier and more competitive with in the long run.I think there are better choices we recommended to him but he wanted to choose for himself, so I hope he likes his gun.:tup:

So why don't YOU take it easy and get off MY back?

And I think a cocker is just a good a choice as anything you threw out there.

And how do you know what he will be happy with? I don't, you don't...only he does. He asked what was out there, and we told him. He chose something, so I don't think that "well, we tried" is at ALL the proper response. You might be more competitive with a timmy, but he may be more competitive with a cocker. Or a mag. Or an Angel. Or maybe a BKO. You don't know, so instead of coming out with a defeated idea of "well, we tried and he didn't listen", howabout telling him he made a good choice and what he can do to make it faster/more accurate/more consistent/cooler looking etc.

He's got a lot more options with a cocker than with most markers, and the potential of the cocker is undeniably overlooked because of the external pneumatics and it's nearly 15 year old design. If you enclosed all those electronics (talk e-cocker here) and pneumatics inside a body, do you know what you'd have? Anyone? Yep, EVERY OTHER ELECTRO ON THE MARKET.

This idea that people are so brand loyal because of this bell and that whistle is ridiculous. Every electro out there (yes, even things like BKOs) are all competitive markers, and for that matter, mechs like cockers and mags are also quite competitive.

/rant

Now, I'm going to have a cup of coffee and begin the friday night relaxing early.

[quietkiller88]

Ok well I've made the choice to get one of the Trilogys when they come out since I can't really find any other cocker for my wanted price. Does anyone know if I can reserve a Trilogy?

[teufelhunden]

Originally posted by robdamanii
He's got a lot more options with a cocker than with most markers, and the potential of the cocker is undeniably overlooked because of the external pneumatics and it's nearly 15 year old design. If you enclosed all those electronics (talk e-cocker here) and pneumatics inside a body, do you know what you'd have? Anyone? Yep, EVERY OTHER ELECTRO ON THE MARKET.


Eh, more or less. Valve design is a bit different.

Oh, and open bolt... open>closed any day, no need for a freakin expensive kit.

[Creaker]

Originally posted by teufelhunden
Oh, and open bolt... open>closed any day, no need for a freakin expensive kit.
Who said you had to have a kit? All you need is a barrel with the bore size of the paintballs you always shoot for tournaments and what not.

And quietkiller88 don't buy a Trilogy you can't remove the 3-way, you can't install an Eblade, & I think the LPR is integrated with the body also, but I am not to sure on the LPR though. Just buy a used vert feed they can be found for $200 or less. If you do buy a R/F do not pay any more than $100.

[teufelhunden]

Originally posted by Creaker

Who said you had to have a kit? All you need is a barrel with the bore size of the paintballs you always shoot for tournaments and what not.



You must've... never played a tourney.

FPO.

[Creaker]

Originally posted by teufelhunden



You must've... never played a tourney.

FPO.
Okay....
I play at local tournaments they all sell the same thing: Big Ball, Premnium, & Marbs. The bore size on marbs is .689 same with big ball (pretty sure at least). I have a Kaner that has a bore size of .689. Why would I buy a kit? I have the barrel I already need. And when you do buy a kit you always end up using one bore size. So why not be smart and save your self some money :idea:

Besides when/if I do play at a tournament they always sell .689 paint.
Chronic is .689
Midnightl is .689
Evil is .689

All the major companies they cater to have .689 paint.

[quietkiller88]

If I was to buy this vertical feed cocker for less than 200, where would I look? And where would I look for the RF?

[Creaker]

Trading forums, ebay, pawn shops, paintball shops, internet, & anything that sells paintball markers.

[quietkiller88]

I was thinking somethin more specific, such as a certain website.

[Creaker]

I don't know alot of websites that sell pre-2k3s. The ones in Europe do, but I am sure you wouldn't want to skip on over the pond would you :P
As I stated before, the best thing to do is buy them used. Heres a smart thing to consider.

Buy a r/f feed for mad cheap, new body, new internals, dye frame + CCM = Awsome Possum

[quietkiller88]

OK WHERE WOULD I FIND THAT SPECIFIC

[xXniTemAreXx]

Originally posted by Creaker

Okay....
I play at local tournaments they all sell the same thing: Big Ball, Premnium, & Marbs. The bore size on marbs is .689 same with big ball (pretty sure at least). I have a Kaner that has a bore size of .689. Why would I buy a kit? I have the barrel I already need. And when you do buy a kit you always end up using one bore size. So why not be smart and save your self some money :idea:

Besides when/if I do play at a tournament they always sell .689 paint.
Chronic is .689
Midnightl is .689
Evil is .689

All the major companies they cater to have .689 paint.


Not all paint is perfect. Sure, youre big ball may be generally .689, but some of it will be .688 or .687.

[Creaker]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx



Not all paint is perfect. Sure, youre big ball may be generally .689, but some of it will be .688 or .687.
Never said I bought big ball chief, nice try though. Only Marbs, All Star, & Chronic for me.

As for quietkiller88 go to this link Six is selling it for a decent amount I guess, if he includes the Reloader which I think he does
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=255773
And check this forum in PBN http://www.pbnation.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=144

[xXniTemAreXx]

how did you find .689 marbz? All the ones at my store are tiny, maybe .687 ish.

[Creaker]

Seeing how I never play tournaments and don't know any tricks or trades :rolleyes: , I suggest doing this:
When you buy the paint before you play open the bag up and let the paint get some fresh air for about 30-60 mins. This will help the balls swell up making them about 1-2 mm bigger. Which will end up fitting in a .689 bore.

[xXniTemAreXx]

oh ^-^. Ma bad.

[disorder024]

U can buy a really nice cocker used.