bullet shaped paint

[pb wing.]

i was thinking.
when the hell are we gona get bullet shaped meaning liek a bullet only one rite side.
when u think about it, it would make it better. no more curve balls, more volocity and we could start getting into groved barrels, clips no more hopppers mabe?
what u think?? just make the mold of the paint difernt and get rid of hopers. im not saying just get some bullet shaped paint and put it it ur worp feed lol. a hole difernt idea.
what u think??
guns used to have ball shots liek muskets and know they have bullets as we know today, evolution of the paintball would be cool to.

[robdamanii]

never. Search. This has been done ad nauseum.

Now shut it, eh?

[pb wing.]

so realy? wat do think this could lead to? bullet shaped paint could be the future.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
so realy? wat do think this could lead to? bullet shaped paint could be the future.

Wrong n00b.

the physics of it are impossible. Bullets work because they are solid mass. Bullet shapet paintballs would be even more unstable than regular spheres.

Now go find the damn search button and quit pretending to be "cool".

[pb wing.]

oh im sorry, i forgot...thats ur job rite.
man if only u had said somthing liek that before, so are u saying that evin if u go t a spin on it, it would just tumble through the air?
cause i would really liek to see some more of that betiful mind at work and take that gold spoon out of ur A**.
EEEH?

[Blacksheep]

Actually, wrong. It has been found that the paint will actually spin.

However, it will not work very well because the gyroscopic spin imparted on a real bullet with a muzzle velocity of 3,000fps is much more severe than a much larger missile launched at 280fps.

Edit- This means that while yes, initially accuracy might be higher (note: might), at a very short distance, the spin will be lost and the bullet will begin to tumble. This is not good for accuracy. The breaking range might also be severely constricted.

[slikna99]

And then the issue of feeding...... NO it wont work... Just stop trying to "make" it work.

[pb wing.]

well, you could design the paint round beter. if u have a skirt on it, it might have some silid mass on the paint. i realy dont think the paint inside the shell is gona spin that much.
nothin we couldnt work out.
u gota think aobut everything you could do to fix every problem.

[travsstuff]

no no no:irked:

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well, you could design the paint round beter. if u have a skirt on it, it might have some silid mass on the paint. i realy dont think the paint inside the shell is gona spin that much.
nothin we couldnt work out.
u gota think aobut everything you could do to fix every problem.
ok, you go make some bullet paint

we'll stick with our paintballs;)

argh, what is with stupid people who think that a idea they think of is the first ever?

[Jeezer]

All I have to say is, screw different types of paintballs, I want CHEAPER paintballs.

[pb wing.]

well hey its just an idea.
and if you think its impossible, well mabe to you but not to me.
i just wonted to see if anyone had ideas about how that could be made.

lame:tdown: :boring:

feeding the paint. iv already said how it was gona be changed. clips and dude, this isnt a rectrofiting idea.
i dont think thats too hard it would be liek a real gun, think aobut it.

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well hey its just an idea.
and if you think its impossible, well mabe to you but not to me.
i just wonted to see if anyone had ideas about how that could be made.

lame:tdown: :boring:
which is why you should have listened to rob and SEARCHED before trying to argue with him

[Chompy]

I wouldn't want that, because it'd take out a lot of elments of speedball, you would get eliminated more. It would be way hard to move if the paint went as fast as bullets man, you probably couldn't even snap shoot.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well, you could design the paint round beter. if u have a skirt on it, it might have some silid mass on the paint. i realy dont think the paint inside the shell is gona spin that much.
nothin we couldnt work out.
u gota think aobut everything you could do to fix every problem.

Originally posted by pb wing.
well hey its just an idea.
and if you think its impossible, well mabe to you but not to me.
i just wonted to see if anyone had ideas about how that could be made.

lame:tdown: :boring:

feeding the paint. iv already said how it was gona be changed. clips and dude, this isnt a rectrofiting idea.
i dont think thats too hard it would be liek a real gun, think aobut it.

What? You're an engineer now? Do you know ANYTHING about physics? You spin the ball (rifled barrel), you won't spin the fill, because a liquid doesn't follow the same physical laws as a solid shell. The fill will spin only the most miniscule amount, and as the ball keeps spinning, the fill will continue to pick up speed. Just like if you unbalance a washing machine, eventually, the fill will give in to centripital force and begin to "wobble" the ball like an unbalanced washing machine. Therefore...

FORGET ABOUT IT!

AND FIND THE DAMN SEARCH BUTTON BEFORE YOU WASTE ALL OF OUR TIME!

Do me a favor...

Go into your bathroom, look under the sink, find the bottle marked "BLEACH" and take a nice big drink from it. It tastes sweet, like Kool-Aid, and it's nutritious too.

Jesus...n00bs lately....didn't we start spraying for them?

Kthxbye.

[radishboy]

wow. this is bad. real bad...

...on a lighter note, imagine a back player having to ad a new clip every 2 seconds...

[travsstuff]

:tapeshut: thanks rob!!!

[Calebd2]

Originally posted by radishboy
wow. this is bad. real bad...

...on a lighter note, imagine a back player having to ad a new clip every 2 seconds...

My thoughts exactly Radish.

It's just not going to happen. Regardless of the fact that bulletshaped paint will not fly straight you would never get speedballers to use clips.

[amzng_spyderman]

speedballers and clips? hell, i'd laugh at a woodsballer with clips.

[SpyderGnome]

just stop trying to make paintball more milsim or more realism, if you want it like real guns, then friggin go buy a airsoft gun. Physics, shape, fill make bullet-shaped paintballs useless, and because we have hoppers, they hold more and feed faster than clips, so sorry for being a jerk here, but just stop now for these here reasons.

1. you cant type worth a damn
2. it just wont work, and even if it did higher velocity = no no, unless you make it smaller.
3. and you want paintball evolution just look at todays paintballs compared to original nelson stuff, today is high quality stuff and way tighter tolerances.

[QuiksilverMV]

already made. Police use them for training

[GranDream]

I have only the original post, so sorry if I repeat something.

I think the bullet shape would improve accuracy, but then all of our hoppers would be rendered useless. Also, I think the bullet shape would increase the amount of bounces. The end that hits you would be smaller, and the pressure would be greater upon impact, making them hurt more. I would rather stick with the round ones.

[radishboy]

Originally posted by QuiksilverMV
already made. Police use them for training

if you're talking about pepper balls, then no, those are still round. they're just made of plastic instead of gelatin, and have soccerball looking groves in them.

correct me if you're talking about something different.

[nahthan]

Originally posted by radishboy


if you're talking about pepper balls, then no, those are still round. they're just made of plastic instead of gelatin, and have soccerball looking groves in them.

correct me if you're talking about something different.
I believe he was talking about clips, like in the ATS line of markers.

[All Smiles]

I want cheaper paintballs. And if u want improve accruacy go play airsoft like they said. Airsoft uses 6mm pellets that are a fraction of the size and mass of a regular paintball. So they need less of a force to leave the barrel (thats why most airsoft guns use a motor rather air power) and u can raise velocity because they have less mass, making for more range. But airsoft paintballs are oily, wont break on impact, and the wind will take them as they are lighter.

[xXniTemAreXx]

Originally posted by pb wing.
i was thinking.
when the hell are we gona get bullet shaped meaning liek a bullet only one rite side.
when u think about it, it would make it better. no more curve balls, more volocity and we could start getting into groved barrels, clips no more hopppers mabe?
what u think?? just make the mold of the paint difernt and get rid of hopers. im not saying just get some bullet shaped paint and put it it ur worp feed lol. a hole difernt idea.
what u think??
guns used to have ball shots liek muskets and know they have bullets as we know today, evolution of the paintball would be cool to.

If that ever happens i will kill myself. And FYI, paintball already "evolved".

[E r y k]

i dont know about you, but when i go paintballing, i use a case of paint... and theres no way in hell that im going to load 2000 rounds of paint into a damn clip and have it shot out.

[Zorath]

Originally posted by pb wing.
and if you think its impossible, well mabe to you but not to me.


Its impossible to everyone. The laws of physics don't change from person to person. Stop posting about this now, or you're going to get a bad rep very quickly.

[Six Feet Under]

Originally posted by pb wing.
I was thinking when the hell are we gonna get bullet shaped paint? Meaning like a bullet, only one right side. When you think about it, it would make it better. No more curve balls, more velocity and we could start getting into grooved barrels, clips, no more hoppers maybe? What do you think? Just make the mold of the paint different and get rid of hoppers. I'm not saying just get some bullet shaped paint and put it in your warp feed lol. A whole different idea. What do you think? Guns used to have ball shots like muskets and now they have bullets as we know today, evolution of the paintball would be cool too.

Now that your horrible spelling and grammar have been corrected, I'll tell you my opinion:

This idea would suck royal balls. Why? Because there would have to be droves of new equipment manufactured, new molds, dies, presses, etc. or machines to be made and purchased by paint companies, which would make prices go up even more than they already are.

It would also cause the soccer moms to be more against paintball, seeing as we have ''guns'' and ''bullets'' now. As if they didn't think we did before.:rolleyes:

[thunderpig]

Originally posted by E r y k
i dont know about you, but when i go paintballing, i use a case of paint... and theres no way in hell that im going to load 2000 rounds of paint into a damn clip and have it shot out.
That'd be one big arse clip. :tup:

[slikna99]

This guy must be a rep from armotech.... ;)

There was a whole thread about this exact thing a few months ago. The whole paintball in a little cardboard holder to make it seem like a bullet..... And then you also have the same problem with keeping the shape as you would with regular paintballs. It just wont work on so many levels. Not to mention they wouldn't be useable in any other pball gun but the ones made to accept the clips... unless you had an adapter. But who would want to give up the nice hoppers they already have to use a clip? Exactly

[pb wing.]

listen, i dont think u guys are thinking hard enogh about my idea.
and aobut the police using them allready, some1 said that.
well they do and it shoots a paint bullet just like wat im talking aobut, only it actually uses gun self contaned cartridge. af cours we all know that would never happen cause then ud just be usign a real gun with paint instead of lead and copper.

i have a little picture i made to help u get what im saying. u guys dont seam to know how to figure out somthin new very well. ur too busy going, thats not gona work.
iv made a paintball witch is the round part of the picture and i put a square tail on it to be the skirt.
now iv shown a hopper. it would work by doing what ur hoppers do only at an angle like what iv shown.
it would fead in on the side or mabe under the gun or ware ever u think wouldnt be IMPOSSIBLE:crazy:

its sooooo hard to figure out isnt it. i don tknow why u guys say that. but i still think ur cool;)

[cutomcocker1]

your idea won't work...explosives and paint don't mix...


watch this: http://www.mindlessforum.com/posting/

may it enlighten you lol...

[pb wing.]

wtf are u talking about??
exsplosives?
dude see. if u dont know what ur talking aobut then dont say anything. what explosives?
dude are u talking about what police use in training?
dude they use difernt stuff. y do u think every thing is a big lie? huh? u think i dont know somthing? they use differnt stuff. thats more strong, to survive being ahot out of a gun.
have u seen the bruses of the guys when they get shot with those??
its alot more. one shot it like 40 shots on one place. liek the size of a base ball. and you should know why that would be.

no they shooot air soft bb's out of reall guns:crazy:
NO.
when u get shot by those guns it pritty much like getting shot with rubber bullets.
i made a more detailed picture 4 yah

[slikna99]

Your drawings are very sad. Anyways..... the paint is still round. If you had them feeding like you say, how do you figure you can get them to feed the correct direction everytime? And....... it will not work. Even if it did it would not be good enough/ cheap enough to get the general population of hopper makers/ marker makers to switch over.

Seeing as how they are round with just a tail at the end... they will just tumble through the air, which will slow it down and make it less accurate. Even if you do find a way to get it to feed right/ be accurate ..... no body will ever buy it.

The only way currently to makea new type of paintball would be to make something that will literally blow the competition away... while still making it cost effiecient.

[pb wing.]

it would be single colum.
side view. it would look liek a regular clip only it would be wider.
the picture i made is a back view. side would be the only as long as the paint bullet.
like an ant farm. or somthin to that affect?
u know how the SAWs army guns. they have the bullets under there gun held in a box. well it would be liek that but with a motor inside.
Mabe like the cyclone feed. only made to go up.

[Danman69]

It wont work and will never happen. Physics and Practicality> You. End of thread.

[pb wing.]

god u guys are stupid.
i just dont know how u coulnt have got it by now.
and the world is square too huh.
dude think a little.

u guys arnt thinking very hard. changes in the design
they already have this for the swat team training, it works, now u just gota convert it to air powerd and make a high capacity feed clip.
think square not round like are hopper.

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by pb wing.
god u guys are stupid.
i just dont know how u coulnt have got it by now.
and the world is square too huh.
dude think a little.

u guys arnt thinking very hard. changes in the design
they already have this for the swat team training, it works, now u just gota convert it to air powerd and make a high capacity feed clip.
think square not round like are hopper.
hate to break it to you, but paintball markers are already air-powered;)

if you want these stupid "real" ammo paintball bullets, then go ahead and make some...no one is stopping you

just tell it how it turns out:)

[Danman69]

Did you read when i said the word PRACTICAL, paintballs are fine the way they are. The already expensive paint prices would rise even more. They don't need to be any more accurate either. If they were more accurate you might as well buy a real gun and go dress up in SWAT clothes and shoot rubber bullets. You already got ramping, boucning and all around cheater electronics in some guns why add laser beam accuracy. Its just dumb

[pb wing.]

omfg:eyes:
did u f***** read what i said?
yea i know paintball makers are air powerd.
real ammo? wtf are u talking about

plz people, read everything i say. when i put NOT a..., y do u
say somthin that i sayed was the not that.

listen im gona give u a picture. from back view of a hopper for my paint.

[spyder_king06]

Originally posted by pb wing.
god u guys are stupid.
i just dont know how u coulnt have got it by now.
and the world is square too huh.
dude think a little.

u guys arnt thinking very hard. changes in the design
they already have this for the swat team training, it works, now u just gota convert it to air powerd and make a high capacity feed clip.
think square not round like are hopper.

no....u r stupid.

[Danman69]

stop drawing those horrible pictures, they just make your stupid idea harder to comprehend. That last picture looks like a fricken gumball machine from overhead

[slikna99]

Quit posting the same crappy picture.

IT WILL NOT WORK!!!! Untill you get a video and show us it shooting..... (which will never happen)... its over.

No matter how precise and similar to a real bullet you get it.... it is still liquid filled. The only way for it to work would be to freeze them... and then you will kill someone. And in that drawing you have a little aggitator in their..... which means that it is going to twirl the balls and they will not feed right. The only way to properly feed them would be a single column with a spring. And then you would have a 10 foot clip to even hold 200 balls.

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by slikna99
Quit posting the same crappy picture.

IT WILL NOT WORK!!!!
Originally posted by Danman69
stop drawing those horrible pictures, they just make your stupid idea harder to comprehend.
Originally posted by spyder_king06
no....u r stupid.
Originally posted by SpyderOWNAGE
if you want these stupid "real" ammo paintball bullets, then go ahead and make some...no one is stopping you

Originally posted by Danman69
It wont work and will never happen. Physics and Practicality> You. End of thread.
Originally posted by cutomcocker1
watch this: http://www.mindlessforum.com/posting/

may it enlighten you lol...
Originally posted by slikna99
This guy must be a rep from armotech.... ;)
Originally posted by Six Feet Under
Now that your horrible spelling and grammar have been corrected, I'll tell you my opinion:

This idea would suck royal balls.

is our point clear enough yet?:crazy: :laugh:

[paintballr87]

Originally posted by Blacksheep
Actually, wrong. It has been found that the paint will actually spin.

However, it will not work very well because the gyroscopic spin imparted on a real bullet with a muzzle velocity of 3,000fps is much more severe than a much larger missile launched at 280fps.

Edit- This means that while yes, initially accuracy might be higher (note: might), at a very short distance, the spin will be lost and the bullet will begin to tumble. This is not good for accuracy. The breaking range might also be severely constricted.

Wing you got PWNED!!!

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Pb wing, that's a terrible idea. Usually if you have a good idea people on PBR will praise it. If you have a bad idea they'll tell you so. So, if they say your idea sucks, it's true so don't bother trying to argue. Maybe when you get a little older (I'm assuming you're 14 or under) you will learn a little more and come to the same conclusion.

[All Smiles]

Pbwing if u like milsim, sell your paintball marker and buy a airsoft gun. End of story. Bullet shaped paintballs ill not work.

[Crash Danger]

look kid, if you want people to take you seriously at least take your own idea seriously, but accept criticism too. And learn how to produce a decent diagram. My diagram is VERY rough but is still much more refined than yours. Proper drawings are done with measurements and every single detail is drawn out. Mine is hardly satisfactory but here it is. As you can see I didn't even get into how the belt is even fed into the breech after each shot, how the paintballs are released from their casing by the gas pressure, and how the rifling of the barrel would interact with the paintball. IF rifling of a bullet shaped paintball even works at all! It hasn't been tested AFAIK and unless you know of someone who can manufacture gelain capsules for you, it ain't gonna happen.

[dpbmustanglax]

Worst. Idea. EVAR.

[Deviant_0ne]

lets say this idea of urs happens (GOD FORBID), think about the gear available. ppl will have to buy clips and adapters to use the paint. the loading of the paint in the clips will be time consuming and then u will have to buy extra clips for the extra paint if u run out on ur current 1. u would have to buy new harnesses and it would render ur current harness and pods useless. the hoppers are worth serious coin nowadays. halos and warp feed are in the 100+ dollar range and there is no way people will let such an investment go to waste.

Start thinking about the present. The sport is expensive enough as it is, and with ur radical idea, the prices will rocket sky high.

[E r y k]

have fun loading them...

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
listen, i dont think u guys are thinking hard enogh about my idea.
and aobut the police using them allready, some1 said that.
well they do and it shoots a paint bullet just like wat im talking aobut, only it actually uses gun self contaned cartridge. af cours we all know that would never happen cause then ud just be usign a real gun with paint instead of lead and copper.

i have a little picture i made to help u get what im saying. u guys dont seam to know how to figure out somthin new very well. ur too busy going, thats not gona work.
iv made a paintball witch is the round part of the picture and i put a square tail on it to be the skirt.
now iv shown a hopper. it would work by doing what ur hoppers do only at an angle like what iv shown.
it would fead in on the side or mabe under the gun or ware ever u think wouldnt be IMPOSSIBLE:crazy:

its sooooo hard to figure out isnt it. i don tknow why u guys say that. but i still think ur cool;)

IT WILL NOT *BLEEPING* WORK! GIVE IT THE HELL UP ALREADY!

[LGP-Spyder]

if that ever worked which it never will we would have to change the name from paintball to paintbullet and how *** would that be

[All Smiles]

Please let this thread die.
We have flamed Pb wiong enough for his stupid idea

Do Not post in this thread

[slikna99]

HAH!... he said wiong.

Telling people not to post only seems to make them do it more.... like my post... for example. damn me....

[E r y k]

pfft... wanna be mod, w/o powers... mouahaha

bullet shaped paint would be too much of a hassle to convert to, even to produce them.

[Pistolero2112]

Correction. Police don't use paint bullets. They use plastic/rubber bullets. They are like a rubbery substance shaped like a bullet, just not pointy. And a square hopper still wouldn't work. It would stack on top of eachother, which we already have that problem with paintballs in gravity feed hoppers. Think about. Physics doesn't lie. You are wrong. You cannot change physics. Unless you are a hippy who believes "Everything is possible if you put your mind to it!". Did our ancestors develop a bullet shape for a wheel? No, they created a round shape. If you want to make a paint bullet go ahead. Spend millions of dollars on a machine to make it. Go spend thousands of dollars to patent it. Then when you are raking in the dough, you can earn all of that money back, and make and mail us T-Shirts that say "I argued with some stupid loser and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt!". If you want to be retardedly imaginative and believe anything is possible, become a kindergarten teacher.
Enough said.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by slikna99
HAH!... he said wiong.

Telling people not to post only seems to make them do it more.... like my post... for example. damn me....

Yes, damn you.

And now I derail this thread even further with....


http://www.epsychoman.com/pics/macros/stupidchart.jpg


There, now this has properly been derailed....


http://www.epsychoman.com/pics/macros/derailedthread.jpg

[pb wing.]

wow.
u guys dont like new ideas do u.
i knew alot of people were gona think it was stupid but really, u guys are just being blind.

crash danger. what u have done is what i posted this thread for. i wonted to see somthin liek that. i wonted to see other peoples ideas and show them mine. this next thing isnt ment 4 u crash...and i said IS NOT, just ot make shure.

i dont know how u guys can be that corny.
it will never work blah blah blah, that all im hearing.
well mabe if u made it. u couldnt make a linkon log cabin.

people its not that impossible. you just odnt under stand it. wich means you shoulnt say anything about my idea.
mabe uv made too big of an investment on ur halos or somthin and dont wont somthin else to get yah.
but dont start actin like a** holes. so what if my picture isnt the monolisa. i made it in 1 min. does it mean its gona look the same way if smart parts does production on it?
u think everything is black and white or somthing.

shut up. if u dont have somthin like crash danger. then get the f*** out, u gota say somthing in every thread anyway.

by the way crash i think u dont need the caseing on it.

u think that the packaging wont be stacked people.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
wow.
u guys dont like new ideas do u.
i knew alot of people were gona think it was stupid but really, u guys are just being blind.

crash danger. what u have done is what i posted this thread for. i wonted to see somthin liek that. i wonted to see other peoples ideas and show them mine. this next thing isnt ment 4 u crash...and i said IS NOT, just ot make shure.

i dont know how u guys can be that corny.
it will never work blah blah blah, that all im hearing.
well mabe if u made it. u couldnt make a linkon log cabin.

people its not that impossible. you just odnt under stand it. wich means you shoulnt say anything about my idea.
mabe uv made too big of an investment on ur halos or somthin and dont wont somthin else to get yah.
but dont start actin like a** holes. so what if my picture isnt the monolisa. i made it in 1 min. does it mean its gona look the same way if smart parts does production on it?
u think everything is black and white or somthing.

shut up. if u dont have somthin like crash danger. then get the f*** out, u gota say somthing in every thread anyway.

by the way crash i think u dont need the caseing on it.

u think that the packaging wont be stacked people.

BUY........A.............DICTIONARY!

[sk8punk24]

I have an idea of how it would work, but im not even going to tell him, because this is such a stupid idea. I know for sure I would never ever want to use a "clip" instead of the $80 HOPPER that I just bought. Good god man.

[pb wing.]

see, u guys need to tell me that. that was spam.
stop trying to hide what im saying in ur bole s*** coments.

[Sam#27]

your an idiot. not for your idea, im sure every noob has thought of something rediculous. but you are an idiot for your sentance structure and your persistance of this utterly stupid idea. Lets just hypothetically say your idea did work, which btw it wouldnt, but IF it did it would fail. Who would sell their sweet lookin apaches, eggs, halos and revvies for and ugly box or a milsim clip? its retarded. Secondly accuracy is no longer an issue in paintball. There are such barrels believe it or not, that DO shoot accuratly with a proper paintmatch.
And finially i feel i need to attack your idea of rifiling. No, just no, if u think rifiling would work on the gelatinous shell of a paintball, u clearly dont know what rifling is. So do your self a favor and dont post ne more in this thread, stop saying dude, and for godsake, stop posting the same pitifull drawing.

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Originally posted by pb wing.
see, u guys need to tell me that. that was spam.
stop trying to hide what im saying in ur bole s*** coments.

It's "Bull ****" not "bole ****."

Really, do some reading on projectiles and physics and then you'll understand why it's not practical. Also the feeding and reloading would just be ridiculous.

Quit while you're ahead...er...behind.

[slikna99]

How can so many people be wrong against you.....(thinks back to ww2 and germany.......Damn). But anyways if there was even a slim chance of it being succesful we would say "It could work with lots of money and lots of thinking, but you probably shouldnt attempt it."

But instead it is a bad idea and we are telling you "This can not work no matter how much money you invest, and you will fail before you even start."

[GIZMO8Z]

Originally posted by SpyderGnome
1. you cant type worth a damn

Absolutely. If you at least want your ideas to be taken seriously, you at least need to use proper grammar and punctuation. Even if your idea was original, I wouldn't have even read what you wrote because your writing was garbage.

[pb wing.]

whatever
i thought i told u to get the f*** out if u didnt have an idea liek crash danger.


if u have somthin like this picture under ur gun, not exacly liek it and have a motor like hoppers and push the paint up into the side of the gun it might work.

[E r y k]

looks like a para from counterstrike.

[pb wing.]

well actaully, delta force black hawk down, its a good game.;)

if u feed the paint in kinda the same way my pic shows only wiht liek a a plastic or metal square pipe it could work.

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Originally posted by pb wing.
whatever
i thought i told u to get the f*** out if u didnt have an idea liek crash danger.

Before they were borderline. Now that is going to get this thread closed.

Listen, do you think you're a genius who is the first one to think of this? No. Definitely not. There is a reason why paintball is played with paintballs and not 'paintbullets.'

[spyder_king06]

Originally posted by pb wing.
see, u guys need to tell me that. that was spam.
stop trying to hide what im saying in ur bole s*** coments.




:P

EDIT: i feel bad im taking out the picture:)

[Sam#27]

Originally posted by Sam#27
your an idiot. not for your idea, im sure every noob has thought of something rediculous. but you are an idiot for your sentance structure and your persistance of this utterly stupid idea. Lets just hypothetically say your idea did work, which btw it wouldnt, but IF it did it would fail. Who would sell their sweet lookin apaches, eggs, halos and revvies for and ugly box or a milsim clip? its retarded. Secondly accuracy is no longer an issue in paintball. There are such barrels believe it or not, that DO shoot accuratly with a proper paintmatch.
And finially i feel i need to attack your idea of rifiling. No, just no, if u think rifiling would work on the gelatinous shell of a paintball, u clearly dont know what rifling is. So do your self a favor and dont post ne more in this thread, stop saying dude, and for godsake, stop posting the same pitifull drawing.
yo man are you reading what people are telling you?? re-read my post, it picks apart what you say and thoughroly explains why your idea is stupid. and this has been posted a million times before, it didnt work then and it wont work now.

[All Smiles]

Originally posted by pb wing.
wow.
u guys dont like new ideas do u.
i knew alot of people were gona think it was stupid but really, u guys are just being blind.

crash danger. what u have done is what i posted this thread for. i wonted to see somthin liek that. i wonted to see other peoples ideas and show them mine. this next thing isnt ment 4 u crash...and i said IS NOT, just ot make shure.

i dont know how u guys can be that corny.
it will never work blah blah blah, that all im hearing.
well mabe if u made it. u couldnt make a linkon log cabin.

people its not that impossible. you just odnt under stand it. wich means you shoulnt say anything about my idea.
mabe uv made too big of an investment on ur halos or somthin and dont wont somthin else to get yah.
but dont start actin like a** holes. so what if my picture isnt the monolisa. i made it in 1 min. does it mean its gona look the same way if smart parts does production on it?
u think everything is black and white or somthing.

shut up. if u dont have somthin like crash danger. then get the f*** out, u gota say somthing in every thread anyway.

by the way crash i think u dont need the caseing on it.

u think that the packaging wont be stacked people.

We are only flaming u because this thread has been repeated over and over.
Like i said u want realism, and magizine, then go buy a airsoft gun. They give u both.
And those are the kind of post that get u banned.

[slikna99]

The funny thing is he acts as if this was his idea... and it hasnt been downed in so many other threads.

Maybe if this hasnt been done 50 bagillion times..... we wouldn't be do hard on you.

[sk8punk24]

Sorry guys, I felt bad for him. I think this idea might work. It has dividers in the middle of the "bullet" to minimize the spinning paint. But I think It would hurt really bad.

[pb wing.]

damit
dude i was gona say that too, TY.
only i was only gona put 2
i thought if i did that they might think its even more impossible.

yea if u put those in the round it would stop the spin of the paint.
thank you for that better drawing, i hope it helps them be a believer.;)

[sk8punk24]

Damn, I gave him hope.

[KingThomasIV]

I cannot hold this in any longer...

PB Wing, your original post went exactly like this:
Originally posted by pb wing.
i was thinking.
when the hell are we gona get bullet shaped meaning liek a bullet only one rite side.
when u think about it, it would make it better. no more curve balls, more volocity and we could start getting into groved barrels, clips no more hopppers mabe?
what u think?? just make the mold of the paint difernt and get rid of hopers. im not saying just get some bullet shaped paint and put it it ur worp feed lol. a hole difernt idea.
what u think??
guns used to have ball shots liek muskets and know they have bullets as we know today, evolution of the paintball would be cool to.

... Only four days after Hmmm Donut posted this:
Originally posted by Hmmm Donut
Hmm i love paintball. But i think it could be better. Me think p-ball companys should start thinking on how to improve the actual paintball and not just the marker. i think it would be awesome to have 200 more range and for it to be more accurate. Maybe if they made paintball into more of a bullet shape they get better aerodynamics and u might actually be able to snipe somebody

WEll i just running my mouth
Open to commets, suggestion, or flamers

Now concerning your thoughts, companies have thought long and hard about how to make paintballs more accurate and/or more realistic to be used for police and military training.
The Tippmann SMG-68 was created in 1986, and it fed normal, round paintballs through a clip. Note the bag that had to be attached if you wanted to keep your clips after they were spent.
http://img75.exs.cx/img75/3473/TippmannSMG68.jpg

Now, guess why Tippmann does not produce them anymore...

Also, Real Action Markers produces police/military training weapons that fire .40 caliber paintballs out of markers few with clips. (Take a wild guess where you have to buy the .40 caliber paintballs from.) Since these guns are training weapons, people must load clips, and even before that, all paintballs must be placed individually into either plastic or metal (you have the option of buying either material) shells that will be ejected after each shot fired. The paintballs are still round, but encased in the shell so they do not get smashed inside the clip. A link with some more information on it is here (http://special-operations-gear.com/Category.cfm?CategoryID=119).

For the reasons already stated by robdamanii, companies found out that even though they could change the way the paintballs were fed, the sphere is still the best shape for a paintball. Chances are it will remain that way, just like the wheel is still a cylinder after all these years...

And for the love of God, use the spell-check feature!

And I have been playing the Delta Force series since 1999, and yes it is awesome.

[slikna99]

It will act like a gyro in the air. And on a gyro usually it is held firmly to something so it doesnt move, but some parts do. With this, nothing will be secured, so instead of it balancing out like a gyro, it will fly all willy nilly.

No matter what...... it isn't balanced, and is not going fast enough for being unbalanced to not matter. So..... it will never work.

[pb wing.]

well, u are intitled to ur oppinion. and that all.
but i dont know why u think that it will never work. but to me it would. and i have an IQ of 165. so i dont think im too stupid to figure out how to fix somthin u are confused about.

Can we be friends!!!??? huh!? huh?!!!
oh, PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!

lol

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well, u are intitled to ur oppinion. and that all.
but i dont know why u think that it will never work. but to me it would. and i have an IQ of 165. so i dont think im too stupid to figure out how to fix somthin u are confused about.

Can we be friends!!!??? huh!? huh?!!!
oh, PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!

lol

Shut up, use spell check, and capitalize and punctuate.

[pb wing.]

yea....whatever.
i think youll live. and if u dont, well thats ok too.
it just means i would have been explaining my idea better instead of talking to u. rob

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Originally posted by pb wing.
i have an IQ of 165.

Then you should have intelligence comparable to my own. So you shouldn't be thinking that this a good idea. Unless however, you are under thirteen. Because even at thirteen I would have known that this is a very, very bad idea.

[slikna99]

An iq of 165.....einstein was 163(I think).... The american average is like 90.....Anything above 130 is genious.... which no body on here is. If you got that on a test the test is incorrect then.

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by slikna99
An iq of 165.....einstein was 163(I think).... The american average is like 90.....Anything above 130 is genious.... which no body on here is. If you got that on a test the test is incorrect then.
i did a internet test (a free one:P ) and i got a 110;)

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Spyder, this isn't a 'post your IQ test result' thread. Please other people don't start posting your IQ's.

[slikna99]

haha free ones are usually bs. Any online one for that matter is really. I mean you can cheat and all that by looking it up. The only ones you can really rely on are like the ones u go to a place to take and are written.

[pb wing.]

well instien also failed all his classes.
y is it a really bad idea. we fixed the spinning problem thanx to sk8punk. i dont know why u htink i gota have verything in production for somtin to work.
yea and dont start giving ur iq test. we dont wont to start somthin about that, liek ur all wonting to do.
forget about getting ready to pounse.:cool:

really u guys make a big deal out of somthin and i really wish it wasnt like that, but hey, its what turns u on.

[slikna99]

instien????............. jesus, just end yourself now dude.


And you didnt fix crap. Untill you prove his design will work with actuall examples you have nothing.

[All Smiles]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well instien also failed all his classes.
y is it a really bad idea. we fixed the spinning problem thanx to sk8punk. i dont know why u htink i gota have verything in production for somtin to work.
yea and dont start giving ur iq test. we dont wont to start somthin about that, liek ur all wonting to do.
forget about getting ready to pounse.:cool:

really u guys make a big deal out of somthin and i really wish it wasnt like that, but hey, its what turns u on.

Wow ever heard of spell check. Do us all a favor and master the english language before u post again.

[pb wing.]

y dotn u end urself?
ur the one who has nothin new to say but, "it will never work", u did this when electric hoppers came out too huh.
"electric hoppers?...hahah! it will never work! ur not goana shave paint down into the feed neck with baldes."

the other guy was like

"i said push paint into the gun with blades"

dude thats how u sound.

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by dog-of-Dislexia
Spyder, this isn't a 'post your IQ test result' thread. Please other people don't start posting your IQ's.
hehe sorry, i was trying to lighten up everything:)

back to the topic...the reason why bullet shaped paintballs won't work is because with paintballs they usually spinning in all directions

if you have a point at one end...that could mean paint in your barrel in almost all shots

if you can get the bullet shaped paintballs to not spin (or have the tip always pointing towards the target), then they will work

and if they work...then you have the dilemma of how the hopper or in magazines will be made

and if you have magazines...then pods will dissappear

you have to think of how the bullet shaped paintballs would change how paintball is played;)

[All Smiles]

Originally posted by pb wing.
y dotn u end urself?
ur the one who has nothin new to say but, "it will never work", u did this when electric hoppers came out too huh.
"electric hoppers?...hahah! it will never work! ur not goana shave paint down into the feed neck with baldes."

the other guy was like

"i said push paint into the gun with blades"

dude thats how u sound.

You need to relax and learn how to speak english. Like i said before they make paintball with magizines and stuff, it is called airsoft. And the more times you respond the more and more u will get flamed. So lets just end before someone gets banned.

[slikna99]

Originally posted by pb wing.
y dotn u end urself?
ur the one who has nothin new to say but, "it will never work", u did this when electric hoppers came out too huh.
"electric hoppers?...hahah! it will never work! ur not goana shave paint down into the feed neck with baldes."

the other guy was like

"i said push paint into the gun with blades"

dude thats how u sound.

Since there are no actual words coming from the speakers, nor are we making any noises.... we do not sound like anything.

And no matter what anyone says in this thread, they will not sound as bad as you are making yourself out to be by telling people to "Get the f out of your thread." Even if you arent a half brained twit, that is what you are making yourself out to be. Nothing new needs to be said other then it wont work, if it truely will not work. I will personally do this for you this weekend if you want.... just to prove to you that it will not work (yes I will tape it). That is assuming it stays open that long.

[pb wing.]

yea.
thats wat i mean. the paint ball wouldnt just have a point on it. it wouldnt have a point. it would be the same shape at teh frount only the back would be square.
and the feeding would be like this picture.
it would go under the gun and push in the paint, thats a view from behind. it would only be as long as the rounf meaning it would look like my next picture. ill give u.
u would have deviders in the paint round keping the pint inside from spinning.

[pb wing.]

this would look like this under the gun. only with a motor in it.

[sk8punk24]

pbwing, if i were you, i would drop the subject of paint bullets, start a new account, and completely start over. then not everybody would hate you.

[robdamanii]

Honestly...

Just...SHUT...UP!

[All Smiles]

Originally posted by sk8punk24
pbwing, if i were you, i would drop the subject of paint bullets, start a new account, and completely start over. then not everybody would hate you.

:agree:
Now Pb wing if u would look pass your own ignorance you see that this question has been asked many times. Every time this happens. Now they already have a type of paintball that uses magazines, and it is called air soft.
You cannot revolutionize the sport so stop trying.

[OWNAGE]

and since now you are saying it will have a square back, then you will have to have a square barrel, a square feedneck, square bolt, and a square tube

which would mean you would practically have to buy a NEW gun...i'm not sure about you but i think the people who spend 100+ on their guns are going to be mad to buy a NEW gun

not to mention all the marker-making companies...all their products that are still on the shelves and on the conveyor belt will be worthless

[slikna99]

i am going to shoot many paintball that have paper things on the back of them to make them bullet like. i will make them all different lengths... just to show you it wont work.

It will simmulate it enough to show you it wont work.... even though it is only paper.

[pb wing.]

well no it wouldnt be square. u would just get a grooved barrel mabe. i dont know how u got that one, square barrel.
mabe i just solved somthin....agen.
side view. round on frount square on back like that pic i gave u.
well:sleep:

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well no it wouldnt be square. u would just get a grooved barrel mabe. i dont know how u got that one, square barrel.
mabe i just solved somthin....agen.

well:sleep:
when you were really young (younger than 5) didn't you ever have that toy type game that you had to put the correct shape into the bigger shape?

did you ever notice that the square wouldn't fit in the circle?:)

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well no it wouldnt be square. u would just get a grooved barrel mabe. i dont know how u got that one, square barrel.
mabe i just solved somthin....agen.

well:sleep:

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

SHUT UP!

[slikna99]

So it is or isnt square?

[pb wing.]

yawn
:sleep:

dude side view

[slikna99]

so then like this.......Cause ima shoot these just to show you, you are wrong.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/slikna99/PICT2090.jpg

[OWNAGE]

lmao...don't hurt your gun shooting those:P

[pb wing.]

well it woulnt mean anything anyway, mine would be way better.:sleep:

and you didnt fix the piant spinning inside. make shure u have spacers to stop that, and get a grooved barrel, make shure the paper dousnt come of too.
:)

u do all that and then u talk.
can i sleep now?

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well it woulnt mean anything anyway, mine would be way better.:sleep:

and you didnt fix the piant spinning inside. make shure u have spacers to stop that, and get a grooved barrel, make shure the paper dousnt come of too.
:)

u do all that and then u talk.
can i sleep now?

Not until you realize that this will not work.

[pb wing.]

whatever :sleep:
take as a sign

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by pb wing.
well it woulnt mean anything anyway, mine would be way better.:sleep:

and you didnt fix the piant spinning inside. make shure u have spacers to stop that, and get a grooved barrel, make shure the paper dousnt come of too.
:)
for the last time...the paint doesn't not spin, the gelatin shell does

spacers to stop what??? you never mentions spacers in any of your posts or drawing

grooved barrel? send one to slikna and he'll do the test right

the paper won't come off, the paintball won't even fire because it will get stuck in the feedneck because the chamber is meant for spheres...not ellipses

[slikna99]

Paint spinning inside..... the hell. You will never find a way to implant "spacers" into paintballs... never. They still havent perfected making paintballs perfectly round, let along perfectly placed spacers inside of the ball. Get real man.

And this would give a general idea of how it would work if you did make the balls you say you would..... HORRIBLY!

[pb wing.]

whatever
it wasnt me who said to do that. u guys told me that wat would happen. sk8 has a pic of it.
and dude. thats why it would be bullet shape. its so u can get the spin on the paint round. like a football. try those out anyway slik

[harris]

You Sir, are a idiot. Now shut up!

[dubis07]

Originally posted by slikna99
so then like this.......Cause ima shoot these just to show you, you are wrong.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/slikna99/PICT2090.jpg


hahahaha, if you fire that, pleeeeeese, make a video, lol

[pb wing.]

dont argue about nothin when its this late:sleep: :sleep:
u try those out.
and of course tehy wont go throught th efeed neck. slik's not gona do that. hes gona put it in bye pushing it down the barel from the top or whatever he wonts.

dumb s***s lol go try that out slik.;)

[Pistolero2112]

A bullet shaped paintball would suck nuts, you couldn't use your regular gun. Because they would have to have smaller bores. that would be one freakin big bullet. All barrels would have to be smaller.It would be a whole new sport.

ps. I have an iq of 127

[slikna99]

Yea im just gunna manually load them.... and shoot them witha grooved barrel. Like the one i have right here. It is hard to see the rifling... but it is there. And it does go down the full length of the barrel. Not just that part of it.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/slikna99/PICT2115.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/slikna99/PICT2092.jpg

[pb wing.]

does it make a spin or is it just strait groves?

listen, just go test them out ok hommie lol.

[slikna99]

It is straight grooving. So no it will not spin. It really will have no effect at all..... but i will use it just to humour you.

[pb wing.]

good
now go test it

[slikna99]

Too late and I have no air. I said i would test it this weekend.

[pb wing.]

ohhh....too bad.
hey listen man u thier, hey if i, i , if i go to sleep before u test those ur in big truble ok.
and i mean BIG

i dont have any more paintballs, i used them all shooting 8 inch rats in my back yard. i think i hit him in the a**, i dont know he kinda did a back flip and ran off into the bush limpin.lol:sleep:

[slikna99]

Unless you plan to stay awake untill saturday night/ sunday night..... I think you will be sleeping before I test them. Yet I doubt I will be in any trouble at all.........:P

[pb wing.]

ah huh, whatever lol.
fine i will.
good night.
and, and, and bye.
that rat might have to do some dodging some time cause if u dotn test those crapy litle paint bullets out soon i might have to do it.
it would be funy if u were testing them out and were liek"these thing arnt gona do s***, lol, stupid kid"
and u liek shoot and hit exacly on the target.
"holy monkey b*l*s, f***, ****!!! ***, he was rite! ah sh**"
lol

ok cya

[GranDream]

WTF:confused:

[slikna99]

I am confused also.

[robdamanii]

The kid's just your run of the mill, pre-pubescent jerkoff from PBnation who thinks he's cool because he's talking with the big boys.

Just ignore him and he'll go away.

[Calebd2]

Originally posted by pb wing.
ah huh, whatever lol.
fine i will.
good night.
and, and, and bye.
that rat might have to do some dodging some time cause if u dotn test those crapy litle paint bullets out soon i might have to do it.
it would be funy if u were testing them out and were liek"these thing arnt gona do s***, lol, stupid kid"
and u liek shoot and hit exacly on the target.
"holy monkey b*l*s, f***, ****!!! ***, he was rite! ah sh**"
lol

ok cya

:laugh:

[All Smiles]

Originally posted by pb wing.
ah huh, whatever lol.
fine i will.
good night.
and, and, and bye.
that rat might have to do some dodging some time cause if u dotn test those crapy litle paint bullets out soon i might have to do it.
it would be funy if u were testing them out and were liek"these thing arnt gona do s***, lol, stupid kid"
and u liek shoot and hit exacly on the target.
"holy monkey b*l*s, f***, ****!!! ***, he was rite! ah sh**"
lol

ok cya

Thats has to be the worst post ever :laugh: :laugh:.
It's amazing lack of grammar skills this poor boy suffers from.

[slikna99]

Yes.... that was a post that no spell check could tackle.

[Zorath]

Your whole stupid *** idea about "spacers" in the "bullets" is COMPLETELY pointless. Think about liquid dynamics. The bullet itself will spin, but the fill won't. This just furthers the point that you are mental midget, and I don't care what your www.irtehsmartIQtest.com test told you.

Also, unless english isn't your first, second, or even third language, your English teacher should be dipped in a pot of warm marmalade, and then shot in the face.

[Spinach]

It would hurt though, a small little point compared to a big round thinger= ouches.

[slikna99]

If you read the whole thing though its not pointed.... but still it wouldnt work.

[133+ Player]

I know I'm by no means the oldest, time played, player here... but I also did read the 7 pages, of what looks like crap. This has been done. There was a feeding system, it sucked, no one ever went near it again. I've seen adds in older posts, implying why robdamanii said search.

[slikna99]

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=257528&highlight=bullet+paintballs

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=207008&highlight=bullet+paintballs

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=129154&highlight=bullet+paintballs


Just a few other threads about the same general thing you have in this. Notice the similarity in flaming....

[ironman15]

seems like this thread and pb wing can be compared to many of today's criminals

for example look at little johny he had a bright future in the stock market untill he held up the local hady mart with his girlfriend..sad

now look at pb wing he had a bright future in pbr untill.....this thread ...which is kinda amusin

personaly i would take the advice of others and start a new account:)

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by ironman15
seems like this thread and pb wing can be compared to many of today's criminals

for example look at little johny he had a bright future in the stock market untill he held the local hady mart with his girlfriend..sad

now look at pb wing he had a bright future in pbr untill.....this thread

personaly i would take the advice of others and start a new account:)

Then he gets banned for multiple accounts.

It's a Win/Win for us.

[ironman15]

Originally posted by robdamanii


Then he gets banned for multiple accounts.

It's a Win/Win for us.


bingo;)

[pb wing.]

wow
i bet nothin wil ever work now huh.
u guys are so smart, oh yah. i mean think about all the things uv come up with.

it wasnt me who said that the paint would spin inside the round. it was u guys. and now ur telling me that im stupid because thats not what will happen.
u guys are lame. it wasnt me who said that.
u guys where the ones who were liek,"u cant do that wing, the paint will spin and it will never work because of that."

now ur telling me that the paint wotn spin inside and that makes me stupid and u smart.
oh ok, whatever u say.

and u guys are even saying that the paint wont work with hoppers.
yea i know that. shure, but it will never work. i mean come on ppl, ah electric clip mag? ha ha, impossible. i mean, how are u gona get the batterys in it?

rob ur an a** hole u know that? and ur proud of it too.
ur the one comin in here actin liek mr.d*** head

you guys are the ones thinkin ur cool.
i just had an idea. if ur really so mature then you would learn how to to be open minded. you just said no even if i said it rite.
stop actin liek little know it all's.

[Crash Danger]

http://www.but-wait-theres-more.com/phonics/hookphonic1.jpg

[slikna99]

Actually what we said... was the shell would spin and the paint would stay still..... but sure.

Ok... your idea rocks man. It will deffinately work. Go make all the stuff and come back and everybody will buy it times 10013914901. Happy now? Ok, go away.

[pb wing.]

dude you said the paint would spin.
y would the other guy make a picture with the deviders, if he didnt read that?
u guys are just fu*ing around now.
oh so now that the paint inside the the round wont spin, what wouldnt work now?
u guys are just making up new things to counter everything i say.
thats y ur lame.

u think i dont know, u guys do this s*** to every1 who says somthin differnt.

[slikna99]

Wait who said the paint would spin..... Find the qoute of somebody not stupid saying it in this thread and then ok, maybe someone did say it. But no.... the paint will stay still and the shell will move.

Just read robs post in the first page........... and you just owned yourself.

[pb wing.]

"What? You're an engineer now? Do you know ANYTHING about physics? You spin the ball (rifled barrel), you won't spin the fill, because a liquid doesn't follow the same physical laws as a solid shell. The fill will spin only the most miniscule amount, and as the ball keeps spinning, the fill will continue to pick up speed. Just like if you unbalance a washing machine, eventually, the fill will give in to centripital force and begin to "wobble" the ball like an unbalanced washing machine. Therefore..."

spyderOwnage said that.
and u all went along with that.

[slikna99]

Well.... that was rob who said that... but ok.

And that will happen after extreme distances.....and the ball would either fall or hit something before the fill started moving with the ball. Therefore... there would be no problem. Not to mention the ball would stop spinning eventually because there is no force to keep it spinning.

So therefore the whole theory is irrelivent in this situation.

[pb wing.]

...

dude that doesnt excuse every1.
that just shows how much u guys have been runing ur mouth's. uv been insulting me for s*** like that.
oh so that means that 6 of the pages u all typed, mean nothing, and are rong.
and even when he said that, the problem was fixed. and now that problem isnt real.
this is what i have been saying the hole time. ur not even shure before u say somthing.
i solved everything u through at me and it didnt do s*** to convince u.
well i geuss theres always me spelling u can argue about:yawn:

[harris]

See the little button that says spell check? Its right beside the preview reply button before your next post click that. Oh and just to let you know u might as well stop posting in this thread because the flaming will never end.

[slikna99]

I just read through all of the posts.... and other then the first few posts in the 1st and 2nd thread, no body talked about spinning being an issue except for you and the guy who made the picture. Get your facts straight before you start to make yourself a god among paintball.

Next....
Stop making every sentance.
Or even word frament.
On a new line.
This gets so annoying.
Just let it be one paragraph.
And stop doing this.

Furthermore. Learn how to spell. I do not claim to be the most grammar literate person on this forum, nor do I use proper grammar all of the time. I just try to make it so everybody can read it without having to go back 50 times to try to desipher what the hell I just said. And I dont even use the spell check feature (And it is clear to me you don't either).

You also keep repeating the same thing, which seems to be that we are all idiots or stupid or *******s or something of that nature. Do you really expect any one to treat you with respect after something like that. Pretty much all your credibility goes out the window after you make one of those sentances.

Also, read all the posts and stop making false accusations. If you are going to post an idea, search first and make sure no body has done it. If they have, make sure you atleast have enough facts to hold a decent arguement. Us typing paragrahs of info only to have responses like, "Yu guyes suck! You cant ebn take neones ides and you always falme on the poepel wiht new ideasd. Get teg f@ck out of my treadf and stop falmign em!!!!" You make yourself out to be a complete illeterate fool.

[Jeezer]

Originally posted by pb wing.
"What? You're an engineer now? Do you know ANYTHING about physics? You spin the ball (rifled barrel), you won't spin the fill, because a liquid doesn't follow the same physical laws as a solid shell. The fill will spin only the most miniscule amount, and as the ball keeps spinning, the fill will continue to pick up speed. Just like if you unbalance a washing machine, eventually, the fill will give in to centripital force and begin to "wobble" the ball like an unbalanced washing machine. Therefore..."

spyderOwnage said that.
and u all went along with that.


Wow, we all listened to spyderOwnage?

[pb wing.]

whatever, you guys are real good at arguing about something stupid. oh but its correcting as its been put rite? well guess what, its not your job, your nothing. your not spacial, your not cooler then anyone else, your just another guy with big mouth.

you really like to win, but you know what, you haven't got the rite to win. so just drop it.
you like making friends with me?

[slikna99]

Oviously we don't. And it is people like you, that have made people like me good arguers.

So we have no right to win? Interesting. Who decides this now? Hmmm... I am very confused about your whole take on life. You seem to think that everything you say is god's word, and you are right even though the whole board basically just owned you. It would have been wise of you to stop in the first couple pages, or after the majority of people had told you, you were wrong. But no..... you had to keep going. So in turn we will be here all the way untill this gets closed (which I see happening), or you get banned and this is closed..... (which I also see happening).

[pb wing.]

your confused, what else is new?
dude how about we be best friends???
we go paintballin all day together?
plzzzz! lets all be friends and pretend this never happened.
im really tired of talking about this, cause its just pointless now. i was hoping this would bring us together and share each others ideas, to develop this forum but i guess its not your thing.
ow well:o

[slikna99]

classic.....

But sure...... we can "pretend" this never happened. Untill the next time you try something stupid and I will be right there to bring this back up.

[pb wing.]

DEAL!!!!

[KingThomasIV]

All I can post about that deal is:
http://img28.exs.cx/img28/2839/TimeBomb.jpg
:P

[ZZYZX]

Robdamanii:
eventually, the fill will give in to centripital force and begin to "wobble" the ball like an unbalanced washing machine.

HAHAHAHA! You mean CENTRIFUGAL force? Wow. Don't insult anyone else for being curious until you can open your mouth (or in this case, type) and NOT sound like an idiot.

You have NO idea what you're talking about. All the kid did was ask a question. You can't answer it with any intelligence, so SHUT UP.

Closed.:laugh:

[thunderpig]

Originally posted by ZZYZX

Closed.:laugh:
uhhh... No.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.

rob ur an a** hole u know that? and ur proud of it too.
ur the one comin in here actin liek mr.d*** head


When it means proving to you that you are dumber than the post my mailbox is bolted to, you're damn right I'm proud of it.

Learn this life lesson quick son, there are things in life that no matter how much you want them to work, they won't. This is one of them. So is salvaging any reputation you ever had on this site.

I suggest you sack up, say goodbye, and beat turf to the nearest set of well used railroad tracks, where you should lie across said tracks and take a nice long nap. Don't pay any attention to that horn off in the distance, that's just background noise.

Christ in a canoe, don't we spray for people like this in here? He's more annoying than a cockroach (and the amusing part is the roach is probably more intelligent).

Originally posted by ZZYZX
Robdamanii:


HAHAHAHA! You mean CENTRIFUGAL force? Wow. Don't insult anyone else for being curious until you can open your mouth (or in this case, type) and NOT sound like an idiot.

You have NO idea what you're talking about. All the kid did was ask a question. You can't answer it with any intelligence, so SHUT UP.

Closed.:laugh:

If you've ever taken ANY kind of physics, you will learn that centrifugal force DOES NOT EXIST! Centrifugal force is a "blanket" term for describing the effects of intertia on objects that follow an elliptical path in space.

Read a high school physics book before you try to pretend you're Einstein.

[GranDream]

Originally posted by robdamanii
If you've ever taken ANY kind of physics, you will learn that centrifugal force DOES NOT EXIST! Centrifugal force is a "blanket" term for describing the effects of intertia on objects that follow an elliptical path in space.

Read a high school physics book before you try to pretend you're Einstein.




I'll second that, I took physics in high school and I have never heard that term before.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by GranDream





I'll second that, I took physics in high school and I have never heard that term before.

Centrifugal? Yeah, it's the uneducated way of talking about the effects of intertial forces on any object folowing an elliptical path.

I.E...when you make a hard right turn in a car at high speed, intertia will continue to pull you forward, while the car is pulling you to the right. It gives the illusion of being pulled to the left.

[radishboy]

yeah come on guys...dont you waych bill nye the science guy?

[ironman15]

i sense therapy in pb wing's future...:crazy:

[Sniper15]

I actually read all 9 pages of this thread, and all I can say is.....

.......:elaugh:

PbWing, give it up. Just give it up. It will never happen and I think you know this. You just like to argue and obviously enjoy making a fool out of yourself agruing about something that will never happen. So please just give it up for your sake......... and ours.

[spoon's66]

yea man,. they dont make bullet shaped paint for a reason.. many reasons. all which have been mentioned so im not repeating what they said.

i mean hell, it would be cool if they could, but they cant. so give it up.

[ZZYZX]

From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

CENTRIFUGAL: 1 : proceeding or acting in a direction away from a center or axis

Wow, for something that doesn't exist, that's weird that not only did YOU refer to it (after you said it doesn't exist), but it's also in the dictionary. Stoopid kids. Don't argue with college educated grown ups, ok?

GranDream, stop ditching your science classes. If centrifugal force didn't exist, neither would GRAVITY. Think about it.

Now, let's look up ROB's word, " centriptical ", in the same dictionary...

...oh, wait, it's not even a word! Pwa ha ha ha ha! :laugh:

[Danman69]

Originally posted by ZZYZX
From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

CENTRIFUGAL: 1 : proceeding or acting in a direction away from a center or axis

Wow, for something that doesn't exist, that's weird that not only did YOU refer to it (after you said it doesn't exist), but it's also in the dictionary. Stoopid kids. Don't argue with college educated grown ups, ok?

GranDream, stop ditching your science classes. If centrifugal force didn't exist, neither would GRAVITY. Think about it.

Now, let's look up ROB's word, " centriptical ", in the same dictionary...

...oh, wait, it's not even a word! Pwa ha ha ha ha! :laugh:

He said the force itself doesn't exist not the word... Why would a college educated grown up be arguing with kids with average age of 14-17?

[PaintballingNut]

Has this kid been arguing for 'bullet shaped paintballs for 9 pages? Holy **** kid. When you can look at 9 pages of posts and not really see any support for yourself...it's time to stop. Go try this on pbn or something. Not here, anymore at least.
And would ALL of you f*cktards stop arguing about physics. I bet 1/2 of you know 1/2 as much as you proclaim to know while the others know 1/2 as much as that. SO just STFU morons.
Kid: you're done. Quit embarrasing yourself.

Others: go to OT and make a physics thread...if you take it out of this thread, maybe the thread will just die and no one else will get tempted to read through 9 pages of garbage.


end

[KingThomasIV]

Originally posted by ZZYZX
From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

CENTRIFUGAL: 1 : proceeding or acting in a direction away from a center or axis

Wow, for something that doesn't exist, that's weird that not only did YOU refer to it (after you said it doesn't exist), but it's also in the dictionary. Stoopid kids. Don't argue with college educated grown ups, ok?

GranDream, stop ditching your science classes. If centrifugal force didn't exist, neither would GRAVITY. Think about it.

Now, let's look up ROB's word, " centriptical ", in the same dictionary...

...oh, wait, it's not even a word! Pwa ha ha ha ha! :laugh:

Hey "college-educated grown-up," you can't read.
Originally posted by robdamanii
What? You're an engineer now? Do you know ANYTHING about physics? You spin the ball (rifled barrel), you won't spin the fill, because a liquid doesn't follow the same physical laws as a solid shell. The fill will spin only the most miniscule amount, and as the ball keeps spinning, the fill will continue to pick up speed. Just like if you unbalance a washing machine, eventually, the fill will give in to centripital force and begin to "wobble" the ball like an unbalanced washing machine. Therefore...

FORGET ABOUT IT!

[Crash Danger]

centripital IS a word, but it was incorrectly confused with the term centrifugal. Centripidal means to move inward, which doesn't happen when something is spinning.

[Six Feet Under]

Originally posted by pb wing.
god u guys are stupid.
i just dont know how u coulnt have got it by now.
and the world is square too huh.
dude think a little.

u guys arnt thinking very hard. changes in the design
they already have this for the swat team training, it works, now u just gota convert it to air powerd and make a high capacity feed clip.
think square not round like are hopper.

First off, you're making square paintballs? No one would make those, and no one would buy them, so unless you have a $3 million dollar machine plus the $1,000's worth of materials to make your own paint, it's not going to happen.

And YOU are the stupid one. This idea WILL NOT WORK. End of STORY.

[Pistolero2112]

By reading this thread my IQ has dropped 127 points.

[radishboy]

Originally posted by ZZYZX
From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

CENTRIFUGAL: 1 : proceeding or acting in a direction away from a center or axis

Wow, for something that doesn't exist, that's weird that not only did YOU refer to it (after you said it doesn't exist), but it's also in the dictionary. Stoopid kids. Don't argue with college educated grown ups, ok?

GranDream, stop ditching your science classes. If centrifugal force didn't exist, neither would GRAVITY. Think about it.

Now, let's look up ROB's word, " centriptical ", in the same dictionary...

...oh, wait, it's not even a word! Pwa ha ha ha ha! :laugh:

wow college educated grownups are stupid.

"dragon" is a word, but i'm pretty sure dragons don't exist. just because it's a word, doesn't mean it has to be something real. yes, the word in itself exists, but the definition of the word does not.

http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/Class/circles/u6l1d.html

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by ZZYZX
From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

CENTRIFUGAL: 1 : proceeding or acting in a direction away from a center or axis

Wow, for something that doesn't exist, that's weird that not only did YOU refer to it (after you said it doesn't exist), but it's also in the dictionary. Stoopid kids. Don't argue with college educated grown ups, ok?

GranDream, stop ditching your science classes. If centrifugal force didn't exist, neither would GRAVITY. Think about it.

Now, let's look up ROB's word, " centriptical ", in the same dictionary...

...oh, wait, it's not even a word! Pwa ha ha ha ha! :laugh:

So I misspelled a word, I'm not an english major. But I like a challenge, so OK, Mr. College Educated Grownup...here's a fresh college Grad kicking your rear right out the information window on the 35th floor. Have a nice trip to the asphalt.

See below:

http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/gbssci/phys/mmedia/circmot/cf.html

Uniform circular motion can be described as the motion of an object in a circle at a constant speed. As an object moves in a circle, it is constantly changing its direction. Because of this direction change, you can be certain that an object undergoing circular motion is accelerating (even if it is moving at constant speed). And in accord with Newton's second law of motion, an accelerating object must be acted upon by an unbalanced force. This unbalanced force is in the same direction as the direction of the acceleration. For objects in uniform circular motion, the net force and subsequent acceleration is directed inwards. It is often said that circular motion requires an inward (or "centripetal") force.
Without a centripetal force, an object cannot travel in circular motion. In fact, if the forces are balanced, then an object in motion continues in motion in a straight line at constant speed. This can be demonstrated by carrying a tennis ball upon a flat, level board. Once the tennis ball and the board are in motion, they will continue in motion in the same direction at the same speed unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. This is in accord with Newton's first law of motion. But if an unbalanced force is applied to the flat board, then the flat board will accelerate. If the force is continually directed towards a point at the center of the circle, then the flat board will round the corner in a circular-like path. The ball on the other hand will continue to move in the same direction since there is no unbalanced force acting upon it. The board will move out from under the tennis ball. This is illustrated in the animation on the left below.
Now if a block is secured to the board in such a manner that the block applies an unbalanced force to the ball that is directed towards the center of the circle, then quite another phenomenon will be observed. With the block providing a normal force directed inward, the ball can round the corner in a circular-like path. The block supplies the centripetal force required for circular motion. With the centripetal motion requirement met, uniform circular motion can occur. This is illustrated in the animation on the right below.



http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/cf.html


Any motion in a curved path represents accelerated motion, and requires a force directed toward the center of curvature of the path. This force is called the centripetal force which means "center seeking" force.

The centripetal acceleration can be derived for the case of circular motion since the curved path at any point can be extended to a circle.

Note that the centripetal force is proportional to the square of the velocity, implying that a doubling of speed will require four times the centripetal force to keep the motion in a circle. If the centripetal force must be provided by friction alone on a curve, an increase in speed could lead to an unexpected skid if friction is insufficient.



http://regentsprep.org/Regents/physics/phys06/bcentrif/default.htm


Whenever an object moves in a circular path we know the object is accelerating because the velocity is constantly changing direction. All accelerations are caused by a net force acting on an object. In the case of an object moving in a circular path, the net force is a special force called the centripetal force (not centrifugal!). Centripetal is Latin for "center seeking". So a centripetal force is a center seeking force which means that the force is always directed toward the center of the circle. Without this force, an object will simply continue moving in straight line motion.

Now, pull out whatever balls and intelligence you've got left and lets see how that compares?

Originally posted by Danman69


He said the force itself doesn't exist not the word... Why would a college educated grown up be arguing with kids with average age of 14-17?

I'm just nearing the ripe old age of 23....so not a little one.

Originally posted by PaintballingNut


And would ALL of you f*cktards stop arguing about physics. I bet 1/2 of you know 1/2 as much as you proclaim to know while the others know 1/2 as much as that. SO just STFU morons.



Why shouldn't I argue something I know damn well I'm right about? I didn't take 2 years of Physics for nothing.

Originally posted by Crash Danger
centripital IS a word, but it was incorrectly confused with the term centrifugal. Centripidal means to move inward, which doesn't happen when something is spinning.

Regarding this: The shell is providing the centripital force on the fill, therefore it would indeed be a problem of such a magnitude. Intertia is also at work in there as well, just like ALL forces are acting on us ALL the time.

[All Smiles]

God we should rename this the flame thread.
And i think we have Rob has proved why that idea can't work, so can we let this thread die.
Yup Yup Yup goin to get flame for this post

[pb wing.]

rob, now can you please tell us how to fix it. you should know some way to fix the problem. what does all that mean?
say it in your own words. and not just say it wont work. ty.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by All Smiles
God we should rename this the flame thread.
And i think we have Rob has proved why that idea can't work, so can we let this thread die.
Yup Yup Yup goin to get flame for this post

Nope, not going to flame you, just give you a :tup:.

Originally posted by pb wing.
rob, now can you please tell us how to fix it. you should know some way to fix the problem. what does all that mean?
say it in your own words. and not just say it wont work. ty.

How can it work? Drop the capsule, replace it with lead, about .22 caliber, fit a brass jacket around it, and fill the jacket with flash powder and a primer.

[pb wing.]

but you didnt explain what al that ment above. and that would never work.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
but you didnt explain what al that ment above. and that would never work.

A bullet is a bullet.

A paintball will never fly perfectly straight because it's NOT a solid object. Liquid fill will change the dynamics of the sphere, and you CAN'T change fluid dynamics. You HAVE to have a solid object to make a bullet.

Period.

[ironman15]

wow it only took 10 pgs and multiple flames to clear that 1 up

[pb wing.]

thank you.
know i wont you to fix that until its as close as a bullet can get.

i wont you to ask yourself what happens to liquid, that will equal a result to getting the round as close as yo could get it with your knowledge. i wont you to be creative and open minded. don't be afraid to try something new. good luck.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
thank you.
know i wont you to fix that until its as close as a bullet can get.

i wont you to ask yourself what happens to liquid, that will equal a result to getting the round as close as yo could get it with your knowledge. i wont you to be creative and open minded. don't be afraid to try something new. good luck.

If I CARED about this, I would try.

I'm not an engineer by trade, nor do I care about your little fantasy. I'm only here to point out that it's impossible to do.

[KingThomasIV]

I "wont" you to use the Spell-Check feature! lol

[pb wing.]

i did use spell check. maybe you should lay off of that for awhile?

well rob just try. it would be a good thing. since i cant solve it, maybe you should try, people might listen to you better if you did.

[KingThomasIV]

I am not trying to pick on you pb wing, I am seriously trying to help you in life. The more intelligent you appear, the more seriously people will take you. :nod:

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
i did use spell check. maybe you should lay off of that for awhile?

well rob just try. it would be a good thing. since i cant solve it, maybe you should try, people might listen to you better if you did.

Dude, I've got to do things like work for a living, and conduct business on a day to day basis. Leave this for people who get PAID to do it, or forget about it.

It's a pipe dream. I'm not going to waste my time on something that I know will never work.

[All Smiles]

10 pages later the thread actually is still alive :eyes:
:tdown:to PB wing, for making the worst thread in Pbr history, and still being stupid enough to keep posting in it after he is pwned by half of pbr. :laugh: :eek:

Remember Pb WIng there are such things as spell check

[pb wing.]

oh wow. ty you'r also making it dumb too.
now be quiet.

rob, im not asking you to start asking for a patent.
just think about it for awhile when you get home or if you cant find anything on TV. thats what i do. i think about what is and what it can be. ponder as you could say. and really, it wont take you too long if you believe there's a way. witch there is for everything. you guys might think thats stupidity, but if that was the way we all thought, you wouldn't be reading this.
thats all you got to do.

[RgMekanic]

A conical (the word is conical not "bullet shaped") paintball would not work even if it was able to be produced.

In a conical shape, such as the standard bullet of today, the larger flat side must be facing the casing and primer in order to catch the force of the escaping gases and propel itself forward.

That is why you can only load a round into a firearm in one direction. The way paintball guns and loaders are designed there is no way of them entering the breech in a uniform fashion and therefore would not be possible without the use of a magazine, and a bolt action paintball gun...or a muzzle loader.

And personally, I wouldn't want to be on the 30 of an airball field, trying to pack a paintbullet down the barrel of my gun every time I wanted to fire.

Its not possible to produce a conical paintbullet, and its not possible to have a paintball gun that would fire one. please leave it alone now.

[All Smiles]

Originally posted by pb wing.
oh wow. ty you'r also making it dumb too.
now be quiet.

rob, im not asking you to start asking for a patent.
just think about it for awhile when you get home or if you cant find anything on TV. thats what i do. i think about what is and what it can be. ponder as you could say. and really, it wont take you too long if you believe there's a way. witch there is for everything. you guys might think thats stupidity, but if that was the way we all thought, you wouldn't be reading this.
thats all you got to do.

PB Wing, instead of flaming how about you learn the English language, before ever posting again. And if you think it can be done, then by all means prove us wrong. But the hole idea even if it did work, would only lead more expensive paintball, and an uncomfortable loading system. So get over yourself you stupid 12 year Shyt, wake up, and pick up a air soft gun if you like milsim. Secondly i would make a new name as you have scared this one one for life.

[pb wing.]

well i also have thought about that too and came up with something that would never ever in the time of man, would work. its a box magazine under the gun that loads into the gun on the side like this pic. it would push paint up and would only allow the paint to face one direction the hole time.
but like i said it would never work.

[KingThomasIV]

:slapsforehead: That is the second time in this thread you have shown us that attachment. Please do not post the other pictures again, either.

[RgMekanic]

this is exactly why I never go to the General forums.....thanks a lot ROB!

[All Smiles]

Yea that would only ad 10lbs of uneeded wait to your marker.

An for the 4th time in this thread i will tell you to get into airsoft. Airsoft my dumb friend use smaller 6mm paintball, and use spring loaded magizine to feed them into the marker. but guess they still round so get over yourself.look here (http://www.precisionairsoft.com/)

[KingThomasIV]

I finally found it... I knew I had seen this site around two years ago.

Pb wing, just about everyone has been telling you that "bullet-shaped paintballs will not work." I tried to explain that companies have tried and found out they did not work. Rob told you the physics behind it. Did you honestly think companies just skimmed over the idea, their logic something similar to "Instead improving accuracy through changing the shape of the projectile, let's spend billions of dollars trying to produce the best 'muskets' around, instead of trying to create 'rifles?'"

However, companies thought of other ways to load the paintballs faster and more conveniently, like Tippmann, in 1986 with the clips for their SMG-60 and SMG-68 (the one I posted several pages ago.) The problem with the clips was the fact that you had to reload so often and had to load a paintball into each slot. Another innovation in paintball loading systems was the Warp Feed. The Warp Feed was developed to lower the profile of a hopper, as was the Q-Loader. (The Q-Loader resembles a pod, and you can search PBReview to see pictures.) And of course, you have your electronic hoppers to choose from...

Now, for the site I remember: www.RustysPaintballGear.com (http://www.rustyspaintballgear.com/catalog/bytype.asp?type=Milsim%20Guns)

And here is "your idea" that I saw long ago:
http://img82.exs.cx/img82/2341/M249SAWpbgun.jpg


The paintballs are still spherical, as they will remain so long as paint is liquid. I hope this clears this all up. Clears all of your misconceptions, as well as KILLS THE THREAD.

[blinkpk11]

considering it appears as if you guys have almost hacked this thread to death, but im going to post this anyway. i have pondered the idea of a conical-piant a few times, and have developed this list of ideas, that COULD be implimented to help in the development of conical-paint:
1. replace liquid fill, with more of a powder/solid fill. this encounters a whole mess of problems including ability to wipe (makeing it non-perminant) and consistancy
2. shrink the bore of markers to attempt to reduce the tumble effect of wide body projectiles at low speed, this would need to be deduced by an engineer, i have no idea what the ideal diameter of a barrel would be.
3. the loading system wouldnt be too difficult, but non the less would not be easy. i was thinking conver a halo B style system to fit the feed neck, which would work much like a top loading blow forward fire arm.

*most important* all this being said, the posative increase in range, would not make up for the amount of money and r & d that would have to be put into such an endevor. in addition, the amount of money that would have to be spent re-testing all the current saftey equipment, to see if say google lenses could withstand a impact from the different projectiles would be a huge waste. Finally, one may find while testing saftey equipment, that one would have to reduce their velocity if using the new projectiles in order to be safe using current google systems. this would not only lose range when compared to faster traveling sphere-shaped paintballs, but the loss invelocity could cause the projectiles to increase their liklyhood of tumbling instead of cutting through the air. One final note, these new projectiles and all the equipment would undoubtedly cost a great deal more, and paintball right now already costs a great deal. I say the idea is a good one, but impractical with the current climate. and the amount of research that would go into such an invention would be way more than any company would be willing to risk....hope this helps both sides and ends the flaming....

[SonyLover]

This thread has been going for 3 days and still! isnt closed :laugh:

[Ghost2867]

dear god...if u guys are oh so offended by the content of this thread, then just unsubscribe and dont look anymore...:rolleyes:

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by RgMekanic
this is exactly why I never go to the General forums.....thanks a lot ROB!

Hey now, I didn't drag you in here.

You just followed my trail of sexiness right into this mess, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU??!

This calls for a Macro....

This thread is...

http://www.epsychoman.com/pics/macros/24karatcrap.jpg

[All Smiles]

I doubt i will ever see PB wing post here ever again.

[pbhippie ben]

Pb wing, thanks fo the headake that you gave me while i tried to read your posts. Now go back to playing with your supersocker.

[slikna99]

Hey hey.... dont get it closed untill i make the video tommorow.... :P

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by robdamanii


Hey now, I didn't drag you in here.

You just followed my trail of sexiness right into this mess, didn't you? DIDN'T YOU??!

This calls for a Macro....

This thread is...

http://www.epsychoman.com/pics/macros/24karatcrap.jpg

dammit rob...you have the best pics...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/customcocker1/sdsds.bmp

slickna-what vid r u talking about?...i'm confused...

[Magnus55]

Those of you who made sound arguments, thanks guys for participating in a positive manner.

As for the rest of you who decided to take on a mob mentality against just one guy (probably a young one at that) shame on you. If he really was as stupid as you all claimed him to be, then really, why did it take so many guys to kick him down? Eleven pages worth?

Honestly, this is what's wrong with paintball today. Someone brought up an idea, (possibly a cliche'd one, but what's old news to us might be new news to someone else) and you guys jumped all over him. What's wrong isn't the guns, or the ideas-- it's the players. Everyone walks around so full of themselves just because they read a few things off the internet, things that have been repeated by young immature kids and swallowed and vomited up, and swallowed again so many times that it must be the truth, so much so that when anyone disagrees with this rhetoric, they're automatically wrong. I see a lot of guys throwing out such powerful statements like "no one would...", "people would never..." "companies would never...". Since when did adolecent teenagers sitting behind their computers become the voice of the entire paintball population, and the companies that build us our products? Just because you don't belive it to be possible, doesn't mean everyone agrees with you. Paintball is a game with guys running around with guns, it's not Catholicism or the ten commandments written in stone. Ideas can change over time. It is possible to prove that the world is in-fact round, even if no one else believes it. And it's those contemptuous players that think they know everything that ruin paintball by stifling ideas and innovative thinkers, not the woodsplayers, not the newbies. It's people that think they have the whole sport figured out, that keep it from going anywhere.


And as for the whole notion of a clip/belt fed airsoft gun... does the idea really seem that stupid? Have you ever seen someone play with a warp-feed? Are they stupid? What does a clip or belt do? It pushes a line of rounds one by one into the breach of the gun to be fired. What does a warp feed do? It pushes a line of rounds one by one into the breach of a gun to be fired. It's the exact same concept, only the application of force behind the rounds is different. So yes, there may not be clips in paintball, but there are products based off of the concept.

[Ghost2867]

hahahaha...magnus owned u all.

[Zorath]

Originally posted by Ghost2867
hahahaha...magnus owned u all.

I dunno about that, but he did get everyone to shut the hell up, thankfully.

[wiseguy360]

Originally posted by Magnus55
Those of you who made sound arguments, thanks guys for participating in a positive manner.

As for the rest of you who decided to take on a mob mentality against just one guy (probably a young one at that) shame on you. If he really was as stupid as you all claimed him to be, then really, why did it take so many guys to kick him down? Eleven pages worth?

Honestly, this is what's wrong with paintball today. Someone brought up an idea, (possibly a cliche'd one, but what's old news to us might be new news to someone else) and you guys jumped all over him. What's wrong isn't the guns, or the ideas-- it's the players. Everyone walks around so full of themselves just because they read a few things off the internet, things that have been repeated by young immature kids and swallowed and vomited up, and swallowed again so many times that it must be the truth, so much so that when anyone disagrees with this rhetoric, they're automatically wrong. I see a lot of guys throwing out such powerful statements like "no one would...", "people would never..." "companies would never...". Since when did adolecent teenagers sitting behind their computers become the voice of the entire paintball population, and the companies that build us our products? Just because you don't belive it to be possible, doesn't mean everyone agrees with you. Paintball is a game with guys running around with guns, it's not Catholicism or the ten commandments written in stone. Ideas can change over time. It is possible to prove that the world is in-fact round, even if no one else believes it. And it's those contemptuous players that think they know everything that ruin paintball by stifling ideas and innovative thinkers, not the woodsplayers, not the newbies. It's people that think they have the whole sport figured out, that keep it from going anywhere.


And as for the whole notion of a clip/belt fed airsoft gun... does the idea really seem that stupid? Have you ever seen someone play with a warp-feed? Are they stupid? What does a clip or belt do? It pushes a line of rounds one by one into the breach of the gun to be fired. What does a warp feed do? It pushes a line of rounds one by one into the breach of a gun to be fired. It's the exact same concept, only the application of force behind the rounds is different. So yes, there may not be clips in paintball, but there are products based off of the concept.

Good points. I suffered through these 11 terrible pages...and am glad this post was here.

People take pride in bashing other people, fairly simple.

And..not everyone is perfect. Some of the people who were flaming PBwing had terrible punctuation also, or only used spell check for that post.

Grow up.

[Hmmm Donut]

Hey i asked this question few weeks ago and got flamed to hell. But at least in this thread they explained why it wasn't possible and didnt just flame you

[pb wing.]

TY magnus.
thats what i have been trying to tell them. just cause its different doesn't mean its impossible.
its not that difficult. all your doing is making a clip that is one direction only, and has a motor like your hoppers.
your totally correct about everyone magnus. would have to say the same thing.

all i got was, "it will never work"from every one. its the same concept, and its not that impossible. some people were so confused that when i said that the the paint round would be pretty much like a regular paintball, form the side veiw it would look like a half square with a round tip, meaning like a bullet with a domed tip, people thought that i meant the barrel would have to be square too. A square barrel!
at that point i wondered what they were thinking of, if it was even my idea, they were judging.
so i put pictures, and all that made them do was say that my picture was crappy, well yea, i made it in one minute.
then i got a picture form a book of a SAW gun to give them a better idea of what the box clip would look like. there response was, it would look ugly and who would wont that under there gun.
well, i guess thats how we judge ideas now.
TY magnus, i think they listened to you a little better.

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by pb wing.
TY magnus.
thats what i have been trying to tell them. just cause its different doesn't mean its impossible.
its not that difficult. all your doing is making a clip that is one direction only, and has a motor like your hoppers.
your totally correct about everyone magnus. would have to say the same thing.

all i got was, "it will never work"from every one. its the same concept, and its not that impossible. some people were so confused that when i said that the the paint round would be pretty much like a regular paintball, form the side veiw it would look like a half square with a round tip, meaning like a bullet with a domed tip, people thought that i meant the barrel would have to be square too. A square barrel!
at that point i wondered what they were thinking of, if it was even my idea, they were judging.
so i put pictures, and all that made them do was say that my picture was crappy, well yea, i made it in one minute.
then i got a picture form a book of a SAW gun to give them a better idea of what the box clip would look like. there response was, it would look ugly and who would wont that under there gun.
well, i guess thats how we judge ideas now.
TY magnus, i think they listened to you a little better.

thats wonderful and all but one question? why do you want to do this? i'm not trying to be nasty...i'm just wondering...

[pb wing.]

do what? my idea or somthing else?

[GranDream]

Originally posted by pb wing.
do what? my idea or somthing else?


I think he was talking about whatever he quoted you on.

[dog-of-Dislexia]

This thread is still going?

[pb wing.]

its not that i wont to do that.
its that i don't like taking crap from people who dont know what there talking about or what im talking about.
its stupid. why should i listen to someone just cause they think otherwise.
i don't need there opinion, if its not even good.
people think my idea wont work for allot of reasons. but i think that those can be solved. and they can.
when someone says my ideas wont work cause they think the barrel will be square, and then says im stupid, im coming back. im not gonna let some guy who doesn't have any idea what im thinking open his mouth and get away with it and win me down.
and it was the same with everyone. i solved all the problems they gave me. ut even then they tried to drown it out of the thread. so people wouldn't see that i fixed it and so i could keep getting flamed for something that was already solved.

thats why i keeped going. allot of people ant thinking very hard. and there's a reason.
its not like im the only one who gets flamed. you guys do it on every thread. iv looked through some and it seams that people have a tenancy to start to flame and BS with people.
you guys need to change. your not better then anyone, your not smarter then anyone you don't know, and your not cooler then anyone, cause when it all comes down to it, your just some guy behind a comp. who thinks hes hot s***.
well guess what, your not and you better realize that soon.

a cool person is some one doesn't do that.

[Hmmm Donut]

Pb wing. Get a life, i asked the same question and the same things always happens. People on this website are all closed minded, and an idea like that wont work. Adn pbwing even if it does work what would be the point. YOu wouldn't change anything really. And anybody on this site is not cool, and has no life. Everyone except me :P.

But chuck up dear boy, and enjoy b/s that this site shells out, and make some of that b/s your own.

[dashfan87]

Originally posted by Hmmm Donut
But chuck up dear boy, and enjoy b/s that this site shells out, and make some of that b/s your own.

the man has finaly figured out what pbreview stands for!

[GRIZz]

The idea of a bullet shaped paintball, though very difficult to conceive and actually bring into reality, could be possible.
There are some issues to work out, (how the paint will be fed into the gun, how the casings (if any) will be ejected from the gun, how thick the shell will have to be in order to survive the rifling of the barrel, etc) through a lot of modding of the existing paintball gun model, it probably can be done.
As we said before, SWAT teams use paint balls placed within a plastic or metal casing in order to survive the trip through the magazine. Couldn't we apply the same exact concept, except make it .68 caliber? Just reshape the gelatin case, make the paint fill a little bit thicker, and we're good to go.
The bad part about this is, unless there is some other way, the paintball marker of today will have its inner parts changed to replicate those of a real gun, that is, if manufacturers do follow through with this idea.
This will probably mean:
1. More moving parts
2. If paint breaks in the barrel, the paint will ooze all over the parts and probably gum up the works.
3. The game of speedball will be out of the question.
4. Loading will be a b*tch after awhile

There are probably more reasons but I can't think of any right now.

So, in conclusion, this idea, though highly impractical, is totally feasible.

[pb wing.]

well as far as loading. i was amagining that you could buy paint in packs that were pre stacked and all you had to do was put them in like. packaged like AA bateries kinda. packed like that.
i dotn think that the gun would have to be changed a much as the loading would. the hopper would have to be only one direction meaning that it porhibits the paint to point in only one direction.
the paint would have to be thick and the shell, well they already have groved barrels for paintball so i dont think it will be to big a problem.
and as for speed ball. well you could use round paint balls for that.
i wouldnt say that there would be bulet paintballs only. you could use both.

[dashfan87]

the way the game has evolved, into more of a sport than a war game, bullet shaped paint isnt going to be ever a real idea for many reasons, its now much less complicated to , load pods, load paint, shoot paint, its played as a fast paced game. there just now figureing out how to make a loader feed faster than the gun can shoot, and now you want to change all that? all that everyone was saying on here is, its not practical, nor is it possible unless money was poured into the idea, and every kink was worked out, and in this age of paintball and where paintball is headed in the future, it doesnt look like its ever going to happen, its just not practical.


adding to what mag said, while it is true everyone shoots down ideas, its just I think imo, some ideas are going to hurt the sport more than help, so they need to be shot down, and while this kid was thinking on improveing the sport AND THATS GOOD, it would be more of a hassle than a help.

ok just thought i would throw that out there then just sitting here listening to you all bicker.

[Ghost2867]

Originally posted by Zorath


I dunno about that, but he did get everyone to shut the hell up, thankfully.
actually, no...im pretty sure magnus owned u all.

one thing everyone has to keep in mind is that htis is an internet website...some ppl take it waaay too seriously...

on both sides...pbwing puts up an idea, and everyone flames it for no real reason at all...then we get 11 pages of spam cause pbwing keeps trying to prove the idiots who flamed him wrong...for 11 whole pages...kinda stupid if u ask me...:eyes:

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by pb wing.
its not that i wont to do that.
its that i don't like taking crap from people who dont know what there talking about or what im talking about.
its stupid. why should i listen to someone just cause they think otherwise.
i don't need there opinion, if its not even good.
people think my idea wont work for allot of reasons. but i think that those can be solved. and they can.


You posted on a PUBLIC forum, and you complain because you got opinions?

Welcome to the real world kid-o.

They won't work for "allot of reasons" which are called physics. Go ahead, Einstein, change physics and be the next Stephen Hawking. I'd LOVE to see you try.

[[Infusion]BigC]

Why?

What advantage would that give you?

You paint would stab people and inflict more injury then neccisary. The range increase would be hardly noticable and then a big bulky loading system to boot.

So why?

Magnus, I'm not trying to tear this kid down, just want to know what happened to my 30 minutes. This thread went no where. It made no progress. And only one person before me that I've seen so far has posted the only question that really matters. Why? So I had to ask.

[arson51]

The idea of a paint bullet was invented by AGD and is produced for several of their non leatal crowd control stuff. its also used by the military for their MOUT training.

tom Kaye himself said " When the military came to us and wanted a more accurate non lethal system we made a bullet shaped, spin stabilized paintball that far outperformed any equal weight round projectile. "

[Hmmm Donut]

Originally posted by arson51
The idea of a paint bullet was invented by AGD and is produced for several of their non leatal crowd control stuff. its also used by the military for their MOUT training.

tom Kaye himself said " When the military came to us and wanted a more accurate non lethal system we made a bullet shaped, spin stabilized paintball that far outperformed any equal weight round projectile. "

Arson but if i am right those paintballs travel at a much higher velocity, making them more stabilized in the air.

[pb wing.]

they do travel faster, but they also leave bruises the size of oranges.
its not the velocity that matters. i think that it would work fine going 280 fps.
its like a foot ball, you gotta get the spin on it so it stays straight in the air. your not throwing 280 fps. but the mass of the foot ball is greater then a paintball, meaning that if you had thrown the football at 280. the spin wouldn't do much cause the velocity over matches the spin. you have a balance of velocity and spin.

but im sure that 280 is would work. if you shoot a pellet gun at 350, it would out perform all of your paintball guns, which it does.

really. all im doing is reshaping a paintball so that it only spins on one direction. this way you don't have paintballs that some times curve and drop. it wouldn't have any up wards spin on it or any other direction. it would be spinning like a foot ball...going 280 fps

[[Infusion]BigC]

Originally posted by pb wing.
they do travel faster, but they also leave bruises the size of oranges.
its not the velocity that matters. i think that it would work fine going 280 fps.
its like a foot ball, you gotta get the spin on it so it stays straight in the air. your not throwing 280 fps. but the mass of the foot ball is greater then a paintball, meaning that if you had thrown the football at 280. the spin wouldn't do much cause the velocity over matches the spin. you have a balance of velocity and spin.

but im sure that 280 is would work. if you shoot a pellet gun at 350, it would out perform all of your paintball guns, which it does.

really. all im doing is reshaping a paintball so that it only spins on one direction. this way you don't have paintballs that some times curve and drop. it wouldn't have any up wards spin on it or any other direction. it would be spinning like a foot ball...going 280 fps

1. Physics
2. Our paintballs have to be filled with PAINT. Not the non lethal gelitan that would be required to stabalize the paintbullet.

I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY YOU WANT THISS SO BAD!!!

Paintballs work fine!

[Hmmm Donut]

Fine it works so what.
k listen.

Would you spend $500+ on a new marker with that feeding system, that only gives you 100 feet more of accurate range.
Would you spend double or tripled the price on these new paintballs.
Would you buy it as soon as it came out or wait for a while as they work out the bugs.
Would you spend extra money on camo, extra magazines.
Would you want to lug around a 20lb replica marker, then get owned by people using 200 dollar tippmanns that have better performance than your so called "Revolutionary marker"

^Now look up i don't know anybody that will be stupid enough to buy a 500 dollar milsim marker, that only makes paintball more expensive.

500 dollars go buy a real gun. Or a decent middle class marker.


Paintball is paintball, i made this thread before and i learned how stupid i sounded. Why don't you realize it so this thread can die.

Now i do believe you got pwned (by half of PBR :laugh: :laugh: )

[pb wing.]

sure, whatever you say.
isn't that the gelatin makes it non lethal. were not Even talking about non lethal. why would you train with a non lethal weapon? those are for real life. the police don't traing with non lethal weapons that are intended to cause pain.
they use the bullet paint to use in replica weapons so that the police get used to working with the real thing.
when you say non lethal your pitty much saying that the police train with pepper balls.

and it wouldn't be that bad with the lower velocity. it would probably be like getting hit at 300 fps with a regular paintball.

and listen. im not saying get rid of paintballs. they have advantages too. and if you think 100 ft more isn't much, then what is?
and you might just be able to get a different feed neck.
if your paintball gun can fit it already, my paintball gun has an oval shape hole, that could take in a bullet shaped paintball. you would just have to by a differntfeed neck.

the hopper would just go on that.
it wouldn't be in the way of your sights as much and if you leaned over u wouldn't have to worry about getting shot in the hopper, cause it would be under your gun.

thats all your doing.
and if you ask what if your feed hole isn't big enough?
well i could imagine you might be able to mill it.
you could use regular paintballs and bullet shaped paintballs.
you don't have to use bullet shaped paintballs all the time.
you could save your halos as well. depending on what your playing, like speed ball. if your going outdoor long distance you might use bullet shaped paintballs.

maybe if your a sniper. you might use bullet shaped paintballs since your mod to long distance accuracy and precision rather then firing speed or fast targeting.

its not gonna take over u know. its just gonna be another option for you. thats all.

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Originally posted by pb wing.
maybe if your a sniper. you might use bullet shaped paintballs since your mod to long distance accuracy and precision rather then firing speed or fast targeting..

You have just destroyed any credibility you may have had in this debate, and probably many future ones as well.

[pb wing.]

its all just somthing more you could do.

and it wasnt suppose to be a debate
oh wait, thats what you guys like to do rite? for EVERY THING

what are you talking about? sniper? what about it? you know? the guys that like to shoot like snipers? the ppl that use tippman snipers? SNIPER!
god dam your just trying to get it started agen. dude, were done! we arnt flaming anymore, and if they still are they should stop cause im not and no1 else is. do light the fire buddy.
Thank You :)

[Hmmm Donut]

Originally posted by pb wing.

maybe if your a sniper. you might use bullet shaped paintballs since your mod to long distance accuracy and precision rather then firing speed or fast targeting.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: . Newbi

There are no snipers in paintball. YOu can not get precision with a object full of paint.

You can't just change feed necks. You have to change the design of the marker. And they have barrel that give you more range (flatline barrel) but even with that barrel after 150-200 feet it will be hard to hit anything.

And Pb Wing USE Spell Check

[pb wing.]

actually there are snipers.
why do you say that?
see, your just talking. now your saying that you can get accuracy with paintballs.
precision isn't just accuracy. your think they make semi auto's with long barrels for nothing? tipmman sniper?

oh yah! and that reply was spell check!! ohhh

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Think about it. You can't just change the feedneck. It's not possible. I'm not going to explain it because it should be fairly easy to understand why it simply does not work.

[Hmmm Donut]

You cant just change the feed neck for a few reasons.

1. Bullets tena to be longer, because of that ball detents would be useless.
2.Most paintball markers are not oval shaped, at least mine isn't.

[Hmmm Donut]

k read this Newbi (http://home.comcast.net/~dyrgcmn/pball/pballphys1.html)

would you look at that even i am learning something

[amzng_spyderman]

Originally posted by pb wing.
actually there are snipers.
no, there aren't. take it from a 5 year woods player.
Originally posted by pb wing.
your think they make semi auto's with long barrels for nothing?
not for nothing. they only make those because n00bs think long barrels will make a difference (aside from airball use, of course).
Originally posted by pb wing.
tipmman sniper?
sorry excuse for a marker, considering what you pay for it. end of story.

and no, i'm not talking out my butt. i've dealt with this stuff for far too long to be turned around by a newbie after one stupid internet debate. when i post my anti-milsim thread, i suggest you give it a good read.

[pb wing.]

you were the newbie for a long time though huh.
what are you talking about? your butt? eeewww!!

dude then there can be snipers.
now be quiet. were all done

[Hmmm Donut]

^^ Spydy is my hero. :)

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Originally posted by pb wing.
you were the newbie for a long time though huh.
what are you talking about? your butt? eeewww!!

dude then there can be snipers.
now be quiet. were all done

Way to talk to someone who is:

A) More experienced than you.

B) A moderator.

C) Correct.

[GranDream]

Originally posted by pb wing.
you were the newbie for a long time though huh.
what are you talking about? your butt? eeewww!!

dude then there can be snipers.
now be quiet. were all done


And the prize for idiot of the day goes to...

[dog-of-Dislexia]

Hell, look at this whole thread. I'd say he could take the week, probably even month.

[Hmmm Donut]

the kid is probably a spoiled 8 year old newbie.

[OWNAGE]

Originally posted by pb wing.
you were the newbie for a long time though huh.
what are you talking about? your butt? eeewww!!

dude then there can be snipers.
now be quiet. were all done
didn't you read the rules of PBR? You have to be 13 to join:rolleyes:

[amzng_spyderman]

Originally posted by pb wing.
you were the newbie for a long time though huh.
of course. you should have seen the stingray i once had. oh man, that thing was horrid! :laugh: all milsimmed up and everything... ah, the days of blissful ignorance :)
Originally posted by pb wing.
what are you talking about? your butt? eeewww!!
[/credibility, for real this time]
Originally posted by pb wing.
dude then there can be snipers.
no. the experienced woods player has spoken.
Originally posted by pb wing.
now be quiet.
:elaugh:

and dog, i don't want to hide behind my title. he should listen to me because i know what i'm talking about, not because i can close threads.

[SonyLover]

Originally posted by dog-of-Dislexia
This thread is still going?

I know...

[toolbandfan]

Indeed, pb wing has been slammed with so many posts that prove his idea wrong. It was over and done within the first page. Pb wing refuses to recognize that bullet shaped paint would eventually wobble out of control. Other problems people have posted out: To load bullet shaped paint, you would have to use a clip, instead of a 150-200 round hopper. Paint would be drastically more expensive, and you would be paying for worse performance because the paint would wobble.


It's just not going to work buddy, quit arguing against us.

Can we close this, before he tries to argue against logic which he obviously has no knowledge of?

[robdamanii]

[i]
Can we close this, before he tries to argue against logic? [/B]

He's gotta undertand what logic IS before he can argue about it?

[toolbandfan]

I changed it.