Xnuke
09-18-2004, 08:12 AM
PROBLEMS WITH ARIAKON ELECTRONIC TRIGGERS
We've had 4 Ariakon LED and LCD trigger frames with defects in last month. 3 from a single order. They do not function properly(recocking) and could not be adjusted to work properly even following the directions provided by Ariakon to "force" the solenoid plate back with screwdriver. They will not catch the sear causing rapid fire unless you hold the charging handle back. We tried 3 frames on 2 separate SIM-4's. They would not work but the markers worked fine with the standard trigger before and after trying the electronic.
Also it appears that the rapid firing causes the connecting pin to bend and has jammed the hammer in 2 SIM4's. One is on it's way back from Ariakon. The other one(pictured below) they have refused to take care of because the owner did not send it back. He returned it to us 3 hours after getting it back from Ariakon - where the recocking problem was supposedly repaired. That's when we found the following conditions:
Gun would not cock.
Hammer o-ring was half gone
No lubrication on hammer
Hammer is jammed in body and cutting grooves into metal( It cannot be removed from the body)
Solenoid coil set screws were loose.
This was after they repaired it. Shipping records indicate he received it at 315 and was on it's way back to us withing 3 hours. Yet they tried to say it was his fault and then tried to say it was something we did.
Our dealer relationship with Ariakon has been terminated over this issue. Our ability to post on the Ariakon forum has been removed also.
Recommendation would be not to buy the Ariakon Electronic Trigger frames. The other problem is the LCD frame does not have a tournament lock if that matters to anyone.
This is not an isolated case as there have been several others on the Ariakon forum posting about similar experiences.
These pictures show damage(scoring) caused by jammed hammer. This is the one that came back from Ariakon after repair of electronic trigger. Another customers SIM4 was sent back to Ariakon with the same damage after trying to install electronic trigger frame.
We also noticed bolt connecting pin and possibly spring guide are bent.
Even though the striker has loosened enough to cock, it cannot be removed to change striker o-ring.
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/SPS/SPS/sim4damageA.jpg http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/SPS/SPS/sim4damageb.jpgSolenoid coil set screws were loose.
This was after they repaired it. Shipping records indicate he received it at 315 and was on it's way back to us withing 3 hours. Yet they tried to say it was his fault and then tried to say it was something we did.
Our dealer relationship with Ariakon has been terminated over this issue. So has our access to their forum.(Probably would have been soon anyway. Had already stopped buying.. Just waiting to sell remaining stock of accessories.)
Recommendation would be not to buy the Ariakon Electronic Trigger frames. They may not work. If they don't they make you pay the shipping to send your gun in to get it working. The chances are it will still have problems and may damage the internals.
The other problem is the LCD frame does not have a tournament lock, if that matters to anyone. If you play on fields they may not allow the frame to be used.
Look at our site for clearance sales on our remaining Ariakon products. (Sorry, no electronic trigger frames
www.shorepaintballsupplies.com
We've had 4 Ariakon LED and LCD trigger frames with defects in last month. 3 from a single order. They do not function properly(recocking) and could not be adjusted to work properly even following the directions provided by Ariakon to "force" the solenoid plate back with screwdriver. They will not catch the sear causing rapid fire unless you hold the charging handle back. We tried 3 frames on 2 separate SIM-4's. They would not work but the markers worked fine with the standard trigger before and after trying the electronic.
Also it appears that the rapid firing causes the connecting pin to bend and has jammed the hammer in 2 SIM4's. One is on it's way back from Ariakon. The other one(pictured below) they have refused to take care of because the owner did not send it back. He returned it to us 3 hours after getting it back from Ariakon - where the recocking problem was supposedly repaired. That's when we found the following conditions:
Gun would not cock.
Hammer o-ring was half gone
No lubrication on hammer
Hammer is jammed in body and cutting grooves into metal( It cannot be removed from the body)
Solenoid coil set screws were loose.
This was after they repaired it. Shipping records indicate he received it at 315 and was on it's way back to us withing 3 hours. Yet they tried to say it was his fault and then tried to say it was something we did.
Our dealer relationship with Ariakon has been terminated over this issue. Our ability to post on the Ariakon forum has been removed also.
Recommendation would be not to buy the Ariakon Electronic Trigger frames. The other problem is the LCD frame does not have a tournament lock if that matters to anyone.
This is not an isolated case as there have been several others on the Ariakon forum posting about similar experiences.
These pictures show damage(scoring) caused by jammed hammer. This is the one that came back from Ariakon after repair of electronic trigger. Another customers SIM4 was sent back to Ariakon with the same damage after trying to install electronic trigger frame.
We also noticed bolt connecting pin and possibly spring guide are bent.
Even though the striker has loosened enough to cock, it cannot be removed to change striker o-ring.
http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/SPS/SPS/sim4damageA.jpg http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/SPS/SPS/sim4damageb.jpgSolenoid coil set screws were loose.
This was after they repaired it. Shipping records indicate he received it at 315 and was on it's way back to us withing 3 hours. Yet they tried to say it was his fault and then tried to say it was something we did.
Our dealer relationship with Ariakon has been terminated over this issue. So has our access to their forum.(Probably would have been soon anyway. Had already stopped buying.. Just waiting to sell remaining stock of accessories.)
Recommendation would be not to buy the Ariakon Electronic Trigger frames. They may not work. If they don't they make you pay the shipping to send your gun in to get it working. The chances are it will still have problems and may damage the internals.
The other problem is the LCD frame does not have a tournament lock, if that matters to anyone. If you play on fields they may not allow the frame to be used.
Look at our site for clearance sales on our remaining Ariakon products. (Sorry, no electronic trigger frames
www.shorepaintballsupplies.com