Pneumagic Rev! Board upgrade for the Revolution

[Silent Knight]

I dont know if you guys know about this or not, but I just happened to stubble on information about this. If you already new then, sorry bout that.

Pneumagic Rev, is a board upgrade available for 9vt, and 12vt Revys. This board is designed to spin the paddles everytime a ball passes the eye in the revy. It's considered a wireless intellifeed.

[TheSickness]

were can you get it:confused:

[Snipes287]

how much?

[july_favre]

Is that the sandridge one? I forgot the name but they call it the wireless intellifeed and its like $75 or something outrageous like that.

[Silent Knight]

this is just a board upgrade, it's available at g3pb, for $39.50.

you can click on loaders, or on new items and see it for yourself. And no, this is not the Sandrige one. This is just a board upgrade, you can use the stock eye inside of your revolution, unlike the sandridge where you have to remove the stock eye, and add theirs, along with the board.

very cool upgrade for those without angels or turbo shockers or impulses. I think this will give WAS a run for their money.

[KlumpDud]

How is that any different than the TurboRev board?

[Silent Knight]

the difference is that the standard revolution, and turbo rev boards rely on a delay time. This means that the eye looks for a delay (no ball blocking the feed tube), and when that delay is detected, the hopper agitates.

The pneumagic rev spins every time a ball passes the eye, very similar to intellifeed.

[KlumpDud]

So which one is faster? TurboRev or that thing?

[Silent Knight]

I have no idea. turbo rev is pretty fast, and cheap too. I just heard and read about it, i have not seen any stats or #'s.

[PEA]

I read somewhere that the X-board feeds with each ball also? Anyone confirm or deny this?

[july_favre]

My xboard spins pretty much every shot. It has zero start up time so when it sees a little space it spins.
The warpig test of the turbo board didnt have the numbers WAS spits out. It was a little faster than the xboard but didnt feed reliably at even 13 BPS. They advertise like 16 i think.

[KlumpDud]

So....does the thing sold at g3pb.com replace the x-board, or do you put both in?

[Silent Knight]

the one at g3 is the pneumagic rev, from what i was told. and that is just a replacement board. no, you do not put both in. hehehe, either or, if you want x board, put the x in your rev. If you want the pneumagic, then put that in.

[WickedAirSportz]

the difference is that the standard revolution, and turbo rev boards rely on a delay time. This means that the eye looks for a delay (no ball blocking the feed tube), and when that delay is detected, the hopper agitates.


The TurboRev does not rely on a delay time. The TurboRev's computer counts the time between balls and adjusts the motor's speed and torque to accelerate the balls into the breach of the marker.

Intellifeed or anything that simply spins the motor when a ball passes by can never be as fast as something that monitors the feed rate and adjusts it (1,000 times per second).

[HellBlazer]

so it doesn't rely on a TIME dely to activate the motor, but it still senses delay because if it didn't, how would it know how to adjust the speed and torque to spin the motor? If the time difference from ball to ball was the same, and all of a sudden gets slower... i think that counts as delay too.

well to me it sure seems like it, but anyways that is off topic.

[WickedAirSportz]

The computer knows that a certain motor speed/torque should achieve a certain feed rate. When the first ball passes by the sensor, a clock is started and the motor speed is varied up or down, depending on how fast the balls are feeding. After about 16 balls, the computer should have the cycling of the bolt down, with the speed matched.

This is accomplished by watching how much time goes by between the balls. The computer knows that if the time has gotten larger, either there is a change in the rate of the cycling (how fast you are pulling the trigger), or the cycling is not yet syncronized and so the speed of the motor is altered in attempt to syncronize to the action of the bolt.

There is a 1ms delay from the time the first balls passes by the sensor until the motor is actually started. It takes about 150ms for the motor to come up to full speed.

[Halliday]

That TurboRev board sounds more complicated than my Hyperframe!
"It senses the temp, and it is above 60º it understands that you are playing in the Spring or Summer and there are more targets and increases ther feeding speed unless the GPS system dectects you are at a crappy field and there are few walk-ons, and then it conserves battery power for next weekend.........." ;)

[WickedAirSportz]

LOL!

Well, forutnately for the player, the computer handles all of the complexities automatically without any interaction!

[Hsuve]

If it spins everytime it passes the eye, wouldn't it be exactly like the new Ricochets without the LCD?

[WickedAirSportz]

It doesn't just spin when a ball passes the eye. It changes the motor speed based on the rate of the balls passing through the eye.

The new Ricochets will likely come with our TurboAK (version of the TurboRev designed specifically for the Ricochet AK models) from the factory.

[Hsuve]

How much would it be to upgrade the board on a Ricochet with the LCD to the TurboRev for Ricochets? By the way, I was talking about the pneumagic board that SilentKnight was talking about... :)

[WickedAirSportz]

We do not make a board for the Ricochet 2K. It is unlikely that we will make a replacement board for this hopper, however, we are talking to Ricochet Development, LLC. about possibly licensing the TurboRev algorithms for their on-board computer.