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RoAdUsT443
09-19-2004, 06:00 PM
hey, my team and i are going to be sponsored soon.. and that means new markers.... i dont relly wanna screw around witha bunch of different guns... i just want to know what is the absolute BEST mareker out there as of right now (most accurate, most consistant, fastest, smallest, lightest, is basically what im looking for.... isnt everyone..)?

and by the way i play front :)

DarkKnight1312
09-19-2004, 06:02 PM
i think the best gun would be the alias timmy with techna trigger.

STO Balla 22
09-19-2004, 06:06 PM
NOT ANOTHER BEST GUN THREAD
Please, for the love of the children, use the scroll bar.
There was a thread on this like, yesterday. There is no best gun. Period.
BTW- getting sponsored doesn't always mean new markers, so don't get your hopes up too much.

Bigshot
09-19-2004, 06:13 PM
originaly posted by Spinich
Look into the BE Line of markers

RoAdUsT443
09-19-2004, 06:13 PM
well i know there not going to be free, we will have to pay for them... but i have a prianha right now.... so yea....

and sorry, i didnt notice the previous thread... and after reading it.... i still dont know what to get :confused:

DirtMcgirt
09-19-2004, 08:03 PM
NO.

Spraynpray
09-19-2004, 08:25 PM
Here's what to get-
1. A bigger monitor
2. Stronger Glasses
3. Realize that "best gun" doesnt exsist because everybodys opinion varies.

spyderuser 123
09-19-2004, 08:39 PM
get an ICD freestyle

GranDream
09-19-2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Spraynpray
Here's what to get-
1. A bigger monitor
2. Stronger Glasses
3. Realize that "best gun" doesnt exsist because everybodys opinion varies.


:agree:

Kingman27
09-20-2004, 07:01 AM
OMFG!!! WHATEVER THE HELL YOU LIKE THE MOST AND WANT SUITS YOU THE BEST!!!1!1!!

RAWR

put and end to these god damn threads for all our sakes..
we can't DECIDE for YOU!


whatevar you want..

dog-of-Dislexia
09-20-2004, 08:51 AM
There is as much a 'best' paintball gun as there is a best band/singer. Nobody agrees on everything it is opinion.

toolbandfan
09-20-2004, 09:33 AM
Why doesn't anyone listen to my genious advice?

Blade 02!:tup:

[Infusion]BigC
09-20-2004, 11:32 AM
Yeah, there's no best gun. You make someone play with a gun they don't really like they may not play as well. Let your team play with what they want.

Other then that, I recommend a Tippmann Model 98 Custom Tactical w/ Flatline. Get a remote coil too. This way your team can snipe.

amzng_spyderman
09-20-2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by [Infusion]BigC
Other then that, I recommend a Tippmann Model 98 Custom Tactical w/ Flatline. Get a remote coil too. This way your team can snipe.
for a second there i thought you were serious :blush:

[Infusion]BigC
09-20-2004, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by amzng_spyderman

for a second there i thought you were serious :blush:

:laugh:

quietkiller88
09-20-2004, 01:14 PM
I think you better get a Brass Eagle Maruader to keep up with noobishness. Thats right, noobishness, got a problem with that? What are you gonna do, tell your mommy noob boy?

GranDream
09-20-2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by toolbandfan
Why doesn't anyone listen to my genious advice?

Blade 02!:tup:


Because you can't spell genius.

toolbandfan
09-20-2004, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by GranDream



Because you can't spell genius.


Ack, you got me.

10-brink
09-20-2004, 07:02 PM
NO

Downfall08
09-20-2004, 07:11 PM
lol at this thread

FoxxF1R3
09-20-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by RoAdUsT443
i dont relly wanna screw around witha bunch of different guns...

Sorry, but thats the only way to do it. Get your hands dirty, go out, shoot a bunch of different guns, and then decide which one feels better for you. That's gonna be YOUR best gun in the world.

Mder
09-20-2004, 10:30 PM
Try some timmies. Try some matrixes. Try some mech cockers. Try some e-cockers. Try some impulses and shockers. Try some bushy's. Try some cyborgs. Try some evil omens. Try some dm4's. Try some angels. Try some freestyles. Try some excals and vikings. Try some automags. Try some phantoms, and try some milsims.

Find the one you like the most and play the best with. That is the best gun for you.

dog-of-Dislexia
09-21-2004, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Mder
Try some timmies. Try some matrixes. Try some mech cockers. Try some e-cockers. Try some impulses and shockers. Try some bushy's. Try some cyborgs. Try some evil omens. Try some dm4's. Try some angels. Try some freestyles. Try some excals and vikings. Try some automags. Try some phantoms, and try some milsims.

Find the one you like the most and play the best with. That is the best gun for you.

If there is a best marker he can surely find it without trying MilSims.

ZZYZX
09-21-2004, 11:16 AM
Mder is 100% correct.

Just because a MilSim isn't the best for you, doesn't mean it's not the best for someone else. I prefer my Zeus to my other markers, and I consider it a MilSim (mainly due to the realistic weight and decent kick).

PS - Yay! I'm in a sig! :laugh:

"Best" is not an objective term. It's a relative term.

I've shot dozens of markers over the years. IMHO, the "best" ones I owned were Sheridan KP-2's. The RoF is slow, but you could quite literally get sand down the barrel and the marker would still operate normally. The solid wood stock meant no plastic to break (actually, there was no plastic on the marker at all...mostly brass and wood). It also looks intimidating, rather than looking like some sort of neon colored Transformer like many markers today. Parts are still readily available though mostly from Palmer's. They now have a hip old school flavor about them, and will fetch $250-$300. Retro is fun.

That's my vote.

dog-of-Dislexia
09-21-2004, 11:30 AM
There is a difference between quality woods ball markers and Armotech Milsim markers that have poor performance but a big price tag. MilSim markers that try to imitate the look of real firearms in my opinion are complete garbage. They perform like a $120 marker but cost much, much more. On the other hand there are woodsball guns that are extremely durable and some may view them as 'the best' marker.

amzng_spyderman
09-21-2004, 11:35 AM
i am a firm believer that milsim has no place in paintball outside the relatively few scenario games there are. i will be posting another thread about milsim as soon as i'm done writing it.

ZZYZX
09-21-2004, 12:21 PM
Well, the game of paintball began much closer to "MilSim" (using team tactics) than speedball, that's for sure.

And all of the first tournaments you saw were woodsball tourneys on ESPN, with uniforms and tactics mimicing military/SWAT. Paintball was a game of realism, not a game of garden hoses with paint and neon colored balloons as bunkers.

And if you think about it...the general concept of paintball's birth...shooting your enemy with a gun, in essence...lends itself naturally to scenarios and realism.

That's why I fell in love with it.

As far as the markers...I agree that Armotechs markers aren't the most high-tech, but then again, NO mechanical marker is. You pay a little more to get a marker that looks intimidating, but from what I've seen and fired, they aren't much worse than most of the open bolt blowbacks on the market today. They are pretty much the same thing, but in my opinion, they look better than the "ray gun" looking markers.

Then again, I do drool over the look of a clean, nelson based pump. ;)

But splash anodizing? Come on, this isn't 1989! :)

Blue Baller
09-21-2004, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by ZZYZX

PS - Yay! I'm in a sig! :laugh:


I hope you realize why.

GranDream
09-21-2004, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Blue Baller

I hope you realize why.


:laugh:

STO Balla 22
09-21-2004, 12:39 PM
ZZYZX- I don't have a problem with you playing in the woods and liking scenario, but don't flame Speedball. Speedball is really the only hope Paintball has of becoming truly mainstream, and many people, including me, have played both Speedball and Woodsball. I liked Speedball much more. Paintball is paintball, not war. If you want to try to make it war, go ahead, but that was never its intention.

[Infusion]BigC
09-21-2004, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by ZZYZX
As far as the markers...I agree that Armotechs markers aren't the most high-tech, but then again, NO mechanical marker is. You pay a lot more to get a marker that looks stupid.

Fixed

And, yes, they perform on par with a $100 Spyder... at best.

I guess I don't understand why you would want a paintball marker that looks like a fire arm? What's wrong with a paintball marker that looks like a paintball marker?

W/e though, that's your thing I guess.

However, excess weight and cheap material and construction still has no place anywere, imo.

nahthan
09-21-2004, 03:34 PM
Yes, an a-5 with a lapco bigshot, egrip, stock and stuff performs just like a stock Spyder. Same for the AM-4.

ImprezaWRC
09-21-2004, 03:46 PM
basically ^

dog-of-Dislexia
09-21-2004, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by ZZYZX
Well, the game of paintball began much closer to "MilSim" (using team tactics) than speedball, that's for sure.

And all of the first tournaments you saw were woodsball tourneys on ESPN, with uniforms and tactics mimicing military/SWAT. Paintball was a game of realism, not a game of garden hoses with paint and neon colored balloons as bunkers.

And if you think about it...the general concept of paintball's birth...shooting your enemy with a gun, in essence...lends itself naturally to scenarios and realism.

That's why I fell in love with it.

As far as the markers...I agree that Armotechs markers aren't the most high-tech, but then again, NO mechanical marker is. You pay a little more to get a marker that looks intimidating, but from what I've seen and fired, they aren't much worse than most of the open bolt blowbacks on the market today. They are pretty much the same thing, but in my opinion, they look better than the "ray gun" looking markers.

Then again, I do drool over the look of a clean, nelson based pump. ;)

But splash anodizing? Come on, this isn't 1989! :)


I see what you're saying but I respectfully disagree.

First off I don't see the problem with the bright colored bunkers or clothing because I am playing paintball. I in no way want to try to pretend or emulate warfare or killing people. I actually like the idea of the inflatable bunkers and matching team jerseys as I think it helps the sport become more mainstream and doesn't scare people off. If you are say showing someone a picture of the paintball gun you have and you show them an Intimidator for example, they will probably say 'cool' or whatever. If you show them a picture of some marker that looks like an M4A1 carbine with a scope and such they will probably get scared and get the impression the sport is about violence and only for warfare nuts, and in my opinion it is not.

Second, well looks I can kind of agree with you on. Hey, I still like the looks of real guns but I disagree on whether it is worth any extra money to get a realistic looking marker. Then again you bring up a good point about intimidation by the looks of your marker, and I suppose that could work against less experienced players. However I don't think you will intimidate many experienced players, so probably the only people who you'll scare enough to decrease their level of performance will be new players who you would have eliminated anyways.

Last: Yes, we point and pull a trigger to eliminate another player but I am not thinking in my head that I am 'killing' him/her. I want to eliminate the other team, I don't want to even pretend to kill anyone. The same goes for Lazer tag, you have a bunch of kids shooting the lasers at each other and probably comparing that to any form of actual combat never once crosses their mind. The same with speed ball, at least for me. To me the bright colored bunkers make it seem more like a game and less like a war. I am totally fine with woods ball but in my opinion when you start getting into the markers that looks like actual firearms you are getting too much into the whole 'this is a war' mindset and too far away from 'this is a game' mindset.

Paintball may have started off as people pretending to be in a war or kill each other, but that is not where I would like to see the sport end up. I want to come home and turn on the TV and see some highlights from last nights paintball games.

But then again, that's just my opinion, and I'm crazy.

FoxxF1R3
09-23-2004, 11:29 PM
It actually started as 'The National Survival Game', the 12 people who played that first game had absolutely no mindset related to war or killing.

The object: Get the other guys flag in the fastest and most efficient way possible, without being tagged. The first guy won the game without making a single shot.

The whole Milsim idea didn't come along until around 1990, when you had a Tommy Gun stock on your Worr Game Products Sniper.

Don't quote me on any of that, im still a 'lil whippersnapper. :P

I give you now An Article (http://apg.cfw2.com/article.asp?content_id=2347) I found on paintballs beginnings.

Murf425
09-23-2004, 11:37 PM
Most Accurate:
Depends on the barrel and your paint

Most Consistent:
With a reg? It depends on your setup.
Without a reg? CCI Phantom (any variety)

Fastest:
Can't help you there. Fast isn't my cup of tea. I don't keep up with that.

Smallest:
CCI Micro Phantom VSC

Lightest:
Paintballstuff Sidekick Stock


I know, I know...those aren't the guns you're interested in. So don't even bother flaming. I'm just throwing around answers.