Spyder Shutter vs. Tippman 98 vs. Spyder TL

[King Ram]

Ok, im gonna buy a new gun real soon and i need some help. from what ive seen, the spyder TL, shutter, and tippman 98 are the best choices. (for my price range).

which gun would u suggest? (please give me an educated opinion and not "it sux")

the shutter is most expensive but with a replaced regulator is might be really cool.

the TL seems like an all around descent gun.

the tippman 98 seems like its really solid and reliable but uses CO2 inefficiently. also, nobody likes the stock barrel but i was thinkin about gettin a flatline system.

please help me out. thanx

[CatatonicSniper]

Save your self from the flatline! Read the barrel thread for more info.

[SniperM98]

OK, I play PB w/ my friends, and when I joined, I brought my Tippy to their game, w/ a nice JT 2-piece barrel. Now I have been playing w/ them for sooo long that I begin to notice something, SPYDERS HAVE TO AMNY PROBLEMS! Way to many! My friend couln't play for two weeks, cuz his SPY was in bad condition.

Spyder is like the Autococker, an cheap man's autococker, niice color and shin, good amount ogf up grades, but it other than an AC it is not reliable!

Tippy is the whay to go for these reason...

1. Reliable

2. Durability

3. Eas of customizing

4. Tons of upgrades

5. BUY AN REG OR X CHAM FOR BETTER USE OF Co2!!!!

be smart get an TIPPY!

[renegade]

you want a m98 right it has the shortest lightest trigger pull in its class it also has a clear view to sight with. it is very durable and tippmann has the best customer service out of any company in the paintball world i would get a m98 but no ones forcing you and you should feel the guns first see witch one you like best its up to you but i m98 is my pick

[Villhime98c]

I own a 98c, my friend owns a spyder compact. Everytime we play my friends compact always has somthing wrong with it. He always takes it in the shop and it works fine there, but on the field he always has a problem with the damn thing. My other friend has a xtra, and that thing is always chopping paint for some reason. Another one of my frineds owns a rebel bottomline, which are very similar to spyders, it is always sputtering even on a full tank, it will also stop working every other time we play. Get a tippmann, Kingman type guns seem to have to many problems. The most frustrating thing in the world is to be in a firefight and your guns jams or stops working. The 98c has a very nice trigger pull compared to my friends' spyders. I tis also very rugged and reliable. My 98c has never failed me. It is downright rugged and reliable.

[coffeeboy29]

there are both advantages and disadvatages with spyders and tippmanns. tippmanns are really reliable and tough, but its not as easy to fieldstrip and many dont like the clamshelled design.

I dont know why you guys dont liek spyders. when theyre screwed up its usually teh owners fault. spyders have cheaper upgrades and they can field strip without tools and imo its easier.

I wouldnt get teh shutter if i were you. get an xtra or a tl plus and then get a used ergo reg. till come out to be cheaper than the shutter and much better.

[Crime Dog]

Ah, but coffeeboy...there's little need to field strip a Tippy 98 since they're so durable. If you don't have problems with the marker, then you don't need to field strip it. I've never had to field strip mine, and I used it all summer and fall... Field stripping isn't really a factor when comparing a Tippy and a Spyder.

[Scullyvan]

True true, the only time I fieldstrip my gun is when i chop a ball and all the goo is on the bolt and in the elbow and god knows where else, but since i got my ricochet I don’t chop that much paint anymore maybe once or twice in a cheap bag of 500 or when I forget to turn on my R2K lol

[coffeeboy29]

true...none of my friends have to field strip their m98's. but what if you get hit in the side cocking or get a ball break in the chamber? and i read soemthign about making it easier to field strip the m98 by cutting off part of the left side of the clamshell so you didnt have to take out all the screws. how much easier is it?

[98 guerilla]

Tippy all the way baby! i have been shot in the gun so many times and it hasnt affected anything. why? no outer moving parts or exposed parts! with spyder you will get crap inside all the time.

[Crime Dog]

Technically, the cocking arm is an external moving part Guerilla...

;)

[coffeeboy29]

do you know anything about spyders?? the shutter and tl plus both have rear cocking so it would be easier for junk to get into a m98 then a shutter or tl+

[CatatonicSniper]

Please, spyders get more crap in them than tippys, its the way they are built, without the Tippmann touch

[h0p]

TIPPMANNS ARE GOOD

[skole]

I wrote this comparison for another thread. It is probably too late to be of any help to KingRam but there may be others.......

First of all, I am a newbie to the sport. (To date, 1 very solid month of rec ball thanks to the holidays and at least 5000+ rounds). However, I have spent many hours researching what is what before I purchased anything.

I agree with the others who have responded, the 98 should probably be considered as a newbie gun.
There are definitely both cheaper and more expensive newbie guns, but I seriously doubt you will find a better, more reliable or upgradable marker on the market.

Most of my friends I play with have 98Cs. To date I am unaware of even a single mechanical problem, (these guys/girls are also newbies and there are is at least 9-98Cs and going up daily.) The biggest problem has been broken paint. 98% of that was Brass Eagle and should be expected anytime this crap is used.

Upon the advice of a dealer's service department my first purchase was a Spyder Shutter. It is approximately $80 bones more. To date I have experienced no mechanical problems with this gun either. There is a second Spyder out there with us and his experience has been similar.

There is also a few that have shown up with a Wally-World brass eagle markers and have already returned and replaced this joke of a gun wannabe, (even their most expensive marker with a bottom line and is the same $$ as a 98C.) The Brass Eagles's markers all bust paint in the barrel, even with quality paint. Just heed my warning, and DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON ANYTHING AT ALL THE HAS "BRASS EAGLE" IN ITS NAME.

OK, back to my comparison. I believe my stock Shutter is a little more accurate at distance, (50-75yds) than the stock 98C. Is this due to the longer stock Shutter barrel? Probably! (Shutter=12 in 98C=8 1/2 in.) Is it a significant difference? Nope! And, if you read much at all, you will find, the very first recommended upgrade on any marker is an aftermarket barrel. So, the next question should be, could you buy a better barrel with the $80 saved on the 98C. Absolutely!

Moving right along, the Spyder comes with a "regulator/pressure gauge" and an expansion chamber. The "regulator/pressure gauge on he Shutter is a joke and does little more than give you the bottle pressure. In other words it is a pretty little device that does nothing and will break someday. The expansion chamber on the other hand does seem to make a difference. However, as previously mentioned, the 98C is highly upgradable and expansion chamber are available for it all over the net for $40-45 bucks. I would recommend this.

Since beginning a month ago, I have taken my wife out to play. After one day of play, she demanded her own marker. I purchased for her a Custom 98 and I ordered an expansion chamber at the same time.

This has given me an opportunity to strip both guns down. I find the 98C is much easier to work on and this thing is built like a tank! The expansion chamber is really easy to install and anyone with a little mechanical ability can do this.

My only recommendation on tearing down the 98C is give yourself plenty of time to become familiar with it. It took me several tries to get it back together right. (Be careful with the front sight spring, as that little bugger will take off and get transported to OZ I guess. Mine went sprung and have yet to find it.)

In conclusion, I would recommend the 98C to anyone. If money is no object, go ahead and get a Spyder Shutter. (It has other features than mentioned that make the gun nice.) OR spend the extra $80 bones saved on the 98C on an expansion chamber and barrel.
Feel free to e-mail me if you prefer more info on either marker.
I have new barrels on order for both guns and will update the accuracy comment once both have been tested