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[wastedwalrus]

which do you think is better? I am looking into some markers....
Nerve
Cyborg
Angel Fly
DM4

I am looking for a gun that doesn't need to be messed with or fixed frequently, high ROF, and just an all around sweet marker.

[jedunnigan]

Well since ur lookin for somthin that dosnt need to be cleaned much or alot of cleaning, definatley go with the nerve cuz for the bolt there are only two o rings u have to lube, and the reg is pretty easy to dissasemble after uv done it a couple times and u dont need to clean that alot so i say nerve.

[Azn_Boy]

those guns are all awsome but ur best bets would prolly be the DM4 or the nerve since they are like the easiest gun to clean and i havent heard of many problems from the DM4 and the nerve

well the nerve just came out and nobody really has them yet but i havent heard of any problems

so i would say go wit the nerve or the DM4 since they are kinda similar

[wastedwalrus]

I've talked to a lot of people and decided on an Angel. Good peformance and nobody I have ever talked to has ever had a big problem with it.

[Azn_Boy]

im sure u wont be disapointed with it

[puckscantpassme]

i was looking into some guns too and i was deciding between a shocker, freestlye (by ICD), or a timmy, and a nerve. I want something really light and really gas effiicent so i was thinking nerve but my friend said nerve boards are illegal. so is he right? and which gun should i get

[xX[Empire]Xx]

well i know for a fact that shockers are small, light, fast, and efficient with the new bolt kits. I know nothing about the new freestyles except that they are fast and light, but pretty loud. timmies are also a very good bet, being light, fast, and efficient as well. plus they are backed by a reliable company (not saying that the others aren't). The Nerves i also dont know anything about, but have seen vids (check my thread with the nerve vids) and they are fast, small, and light, but i am not sure about efficiency and i have also heard that the nerve boards can be a bit of a hassle. To the point, all of these guns listed are very good guns, so basically i'd say its personal preference and how big your wallet is. ;)

[puckscantpassme]

hmmm well i guess my impulse i have now is oaky i just want something really light and with a short trigger but i could shorten the trigger on my imp if i new how to. just so u no if any one can tell me how to shorten it, its New Designs magnetic blade trigger and it has three spot to shorten it from, now which one is it?

[impypballer]

if you mean to adjust your post travel, it's the screw on the flat part of the trigger. you will have to make sure you set the activation point before the stop though
or arrow down and a pic. shows you which screw's which.
http://www.kamworld.net/paintball/reviews/NDZ_promag.html

[jedunnigan]

For u question about the nerve, NO the board is not illegal BUT it does have one mode that is illegal called rebound, this can easily be turned off and brought into a regular vision or non vision mode....

[puckscantpassme]

Originally posted by impypballer
if you mean to adjust your post travel, it's the screw on the flat part of the trigger. you will have to make sure you set the activation point before the stop though
or arrow down and a pic. shows you which screw's which.
http://www.kamworld.net/paintball/reviews/NDZ_promag.htmlh.

yea i guess, wat ever i can do to shorten it but if i do adjust that wat else to i have to do like to the board?

[impypballer]

i don't think you have to do anything to the board.

[puckscantpassme]

so set the post travel screw to where i want it, then play with the other thing going up the back side of the trigger, sorta into the top of the frame, until it registers clicks?

[toothpastedog]

lol, nice

[puckscantpassme]

i know i already talked about this same question in another fourm but i posted this qeustion before posting in the impulse fourm. I am probably gona sell my impulse in a year maybe, to buy a nerve but i am gona wait till the price drops on nerves and also till i find out more about them, like there weakenesses.

[puckscantpassme]

Originally posted by wastedwalrus
I've talked to a lot of people and decided on an Angel. Good peformance and nobody I have ever talked to has ever had a big problem with it.

Wait so decided does that mean u bought an angel? If so wat kind? I personaly wanted to stay away from angels b/c i thought they were heavy (come to think of it i cant remeber the last time i held one). Any way isnt the nerve the lightest out of all these guns? And the smallest?

[toothpastedog]

by only a little bit. the newer angels are pretty much unbeatable in every respect

[puckscantpassme]

wat about an ICD freestyle their nice right, b/c impya said that he got one and it performs just as well as a timmy, dm4, angel, etc.

[toothpastedog]

it won't out perform a nerve, but they sure are damn nice gats for only 850$

[impypballer]

Originally posted by puckscantpassme
so set the post travel screw to where i want it, then play with the other thing going up the back side of the trigger, sorta into the top of the frame, until it registers clicks?

yes, but don't screw the activation point screw in too far or you could damage your microwswitch or something. once it clicks stop. then unscrew it a little until the light on the back starts flashing again. also make sure you put blue loctite on the screws or they will move around.

[puckscantpassme]

wats blu loctite? also do i unscrew activation point thing all the way befroe i start anything?

[jedunnigan]

its teflon tape u put it on screws or whatnot so it holds it on REALLLY TIGHT, diffrent colors mean diffrent streangsths, green is the strongest, then red, then blue

[toothpastedog]

this should help, same concept:

now, set how long you want the pull to be, and it sould be no less than 2mm, although you probably can get away with a length of 1mm or 1.5mm. find the post travel screw, located on the flat blade part of the trigger, and screw it in until the trigger pull is how long you want it to be.

turn the gun on and make sure to watch to see if the blue led on the back of the gun is blinking normally throughout the adjustment proccess. find that micro switch activation and, while holding down the trigger, screw it in slowely until you hear a faint "click" (which will be the solenoid trying to fire the gun, oh yes, make sure the gun isn't gassed up right now) and see the light on the back of the gun stop blinking. then let go of the trigger. then screw the micro switch activation screw in one more 1/8 of a turn of the allen wrench.

>if the light on the back on the impulse starts flashnig like normal, pull the trigger a couple more times.

>if everything is okay, you're done.
>if once you pulled the trigger again, and the shot doesnt' registery, (meaning the light on the back of the gun doesn't blink like when you normally shoot the gun) then screw the micro switch activation screw in another 1/8 of a turn. repeat until the shots register
>if once you pull the trigger some more, the light on the back of the gun stops flashing totally, then unscrew the post travel screw 1/8 of a turn, repeat as nessisary.

>if the light on the back of the impulse doesn't flash once you pull the trigger at all, then unscrew the post travel screw 1/8 of a turn, repeat as nessisary. then pull the trigger a couple more times.

>if everything is okay, you're done.
>if once you pulled the trigger again, and the shot doesnt' registery, (meaning the light on the back of the gun doesn't blink like when you normally shoot the gun) then screw the micro switch activation screw in another 1/8 of a turn. repeat until the shots register
>if once you pull the trigger some more, the light on the back of the gun stops flashing totally, then unscrew the post travel screw 1/8 of a turn, repeat as nessisary.

>if the light on the impulse doesn't register any shots when you pull the trigger, (meaning the light on the back of the gun doesn't blink like when you normally shoot the gun) then screw the micro switch activation screw in another 1/8 of a turn. repeat until the shots register. pull the trigger a couple more times.

>if everything is okay, you're done.
>if once you pulled the trigger again, and the shot doesnt' registery, (meaning the light on the back of the gun doesn't blink like when you normally shoot the gun) then screw the micro switch activation screw in another 1/8 of a turn. repeat until the shots register
>if once you pull the trigger some more, the light on the back of the gun stops flashing totally, then unscrew the post travel screw 1/8 of a turn, repeat as nessisary.

[jedunnigan]

Originally posted by impypballer
i don't think you have to do anything to the board.

For the shocker yu can do one thing to make the trigger pull as light and smooth as possible, the microswitch modification.... here is some info http://shockerowners.com/showthread.php?t=2828

[puckscantpassme]

another impulse question here, i am not sure what kind of internals i have (since i bought my gun used) now i dont like the gas efficentsy on my gun so i was thinking maybe a new valve or other internals but i am not suree whch kind i have now, so i dont want to buy the same thing again. How can i tell what internals i have?

[impypballer]

Originally posted by jedunnigan
its teflon tape u put it on screws or whatnot so it holds it on REALLLY TIGHT, diffrent colors mean diffrent streangsths, green is the strongest, then red, then blue
loctight and teflon tape are two different things. teflon tape is like tape, while loctight is a licuid that hardens when you put it on a screw to hold it in place, like glue. you will need to take out the screws to put loctight on them.

[toothpastedog]

Originally posted by puckscantpassme
another impulse question here, i am not sure what kind of internals i have (since i bought my gun used) now i dont like the gas efficentsy on my gun so i was thinking maybe a new valve or other internals but i am not suree whch kind i have now, so i dont want to buy the same thing again. How can i tell what internals i have?

ask again in the impulse forum...

[the Ydna]

Originally posted by impypballer

loctight and teflon tape are two different things. teflon tape is like tape, while loctight is a licuid that hardens when you put it on a screw to hold it in place, like glue. you will need to take out the screws to put loctight on them.
The only exception is if you are using green loctite, which you can apply after the parts are reassembled (green will penetrate the threads and cure down in there). But I don't think anybody wil suggest using green on much for paintball use...

[puckscantpassme]

but what do i put teflon tape around, i mean i am only screwing to little things, i am not even taking them out of the gun.

[impypballer]

Originally posted by puckscantpassme
but what do i put teflon tape around, i mean i am only screwing to little things, i am not even taking them out of the gun.
i'm pretty sure you don't put teflon tape on your trigger screws, just buy a bottle of blue loctight and put some on your trigger screws.

[puckscantpassme]

okay tried shortning it and it didnt work, for some reason i tryed sevral allen wrenches and they wouldt fit the (or maybe its adjusted all the way) the post activation point. how ever my trigger might me at 2mm already.

[disorder024]

Isn't a shocker smaller and lighter than a nerve?

[puckscantpassme]

no a dynasty shocker is lighter than a nerve but stock shockers definatly biger and heavyier

[jedunnigan]

Originally posted by puckscantpassme
no a dynasty shocker is lighter than a nerve but stock shockers definatly biger and heavyier
I think you are thinking f 1997-2002 shockers 2003-2004 shockers are much smaller and lighter

[disorder024]

I held both a base shocker and a nerve at World Cup.....they seemed to be the smae weight and the shocker was alot smaller.

[Azn_Boy]

a regualr base shocker and a nerve have bout the same weight or so

the dynasty shocker weights a slightly more than a base shocker because of the xtra milling it has on it

[puckscantpassme]

that doesnt make sense if it has extra milling than it would be lighter right? also i think the dynasty shockers lighter than the nerve, thats what i heard in a nerve vs. shocker thread.

[disorder024]

The extra milling he is talking about would be the dynasty emblem thing on the side of the gun....which would add weight.

[Azn_Boy]

noo its like they kinda added more metal to it or something cause mine feels a lil heavier than a base shocker but lighter than a nerve

[disorder024]

I would still take the dynasty over base or nerve....alot spiffier.

[Azn_Boy]

heh...they all good