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Andrew Orde
10-30-2004, 05:37 PM
What is this so called "Loctite"?

Loctite is really a company. The product you are looking for is thread lock. Thread Lock is a gel adhesive used to secure threads from slipping and or vibration. It can also be found in a stick, much like a glue-stick.

What are the different colors of loctite for? Its like a rainbow!

The colors of loctite represent different strengths. The weakest is purple loctite. It will break at about 62 pounds of torque. The most common is blue loctite. It is uses to to make bonds that you may want to remove. It breaks at about 115 lbs or torque. The next is red. There are two types of red loctite the first is labeled as permanent strength and can be removed but is fairly difficult. It breaks at about 168 lbs of torque. The other is High strength. It breaks at about 230 lbs of torque. These are the most common types used but depending on the company that makes it there are many different colors, sometimes green, yellow, orange, black....But these generally stay the same. These other colors also may represent special purposes like High temperature or for screws with an especially large diameter.

How do I remove it?

All types of threadlock can be removed. But many require more force and heat. If you are using the basic blue or red you can take a lighter and hold it on the specific area for a minute or two then try to un screw it. BE CAREFUL! If this dose not work you should try heating it up for longer or using a candle or something hotter such as a torch or a gas stove. Again. Be careful.

What are the advantages of threadlock over teflon tape?

If you are using this on a paintball gun (which im assuming you are considering your in a paintball forum) chances there is air involved. If you use this on air fittings or anything that the air will pass by the tape may become frayed and pieces of it can break off. If you are shooting a true electro gun these can break off and get in your solenoid. This can ruin the solenoid and cost you a decent amount of money.

Having said that sometimes loctite doesn't make as thick and even a seal as teflon tape. And if you run a spyder (or spyder clone), tippmann, or anything else without a solenoid you can use it no problem.

So how do I know what color to use?

General rule of thumb is if you ever want to remove it again use blue loctite. With this you should be able to use small hand tools and some heat to remove the piece. If you want it to stay on there permanently use red loctite. You still could remove it but it takes some effort. If you are doing something like putting a guage on a tank use the Highest strength you can find (usually black). If you are just doing something small like trigger screws you should use purple.

Are there any other uses for Loctite?

Yes, another common use for loctite is stripped screws. If you place some Blue loctite on a hex key, screw driver...and let it dry completely you should be able to remove the screw. You use blue so you don't ruin your tool. Of course another option for this is taking your piece to a machine shop and they can remove it for you.

What is the drying time on loctite?

Loctite usually takes about 20 minutes to "fix" and then 24 hours before you should do anything to it. Especially airing your gun up. Howerer, there are several prep products that can reduce fix time to about 5 minutes.

Where do I get loctite? And how much dose it cost?

You can get loctite at any number of places. Some common places are Wal-mart, and Home Depot. It can also be found at most local hardware stores and sometimes craft stores. Loctite isn't very expensive is is usually about 5-10 dollars a tube. And these tubes will last you quite a long time.

How do I use it?

Take the screw , fitting, part, whatever off your gun. Clean it and where you are going to put it thoroughly. I recommend using windex. If you have some sort of recommended surface prep. product (made by the same company) apply it now. Next you should place a few drops of the threadlock on the threads of the screw. Start to screw it in and if needed put a little more on the threads as close to the top as passable. Wipe off and excess .and then let it "fix" (usually about 20 minutes) before moving, and leave at least 24 hours before doing anything else.

Uhhh Why not just super glue?

Superglue dose not do the same thing as loctite and may not create as strong of a hold or even a too strong hold (depending on the loctite you choose). Superglue is just that. Glue. Loctite will create a special bond between the metals that can be specialized by the different colors. Also if you get super glue on your gun and dry it will leave the crusty white glue. Simply put spend the extra 4 dollars and buy loctite and do it right.

autococker ppl
10-30-2004, 06:49 PM
Great post, but mabye could be moved to the "new player" or "general Paintball" forum? very informative keep up the good work.;)

Pbkid39
10-30-2004, 07:36 PM
Very nice work Andrew ;)

Andrew Orde
10-31-2004, 04:53 AM
Thank you

spyderuser 123
10-31-2004, 07:46 AM
why isn't this stickyed yet?:D

|GB|
10-31-2004, 08:07 AM
Probably because Spydey hasen't seen it yet. Nice work. :tup:

nole16k
10-31-2004, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by spyderuser 123
why isn't this stickyed yet?:D Because it's in the wrong forum.

reneirwolf878
10-31-2004, 11:20 AM
You should probally mention that color is not the only thing you should look for when looking at locktite. There's different numbers, 222, 232, 242, etc. that are the same color but very differnt. I'll try and look up exactly what each should be used for.

bluesharpie88
10-31-2004, 02:47 PM
awesome post!:tup: i smell a sticky, somewere..maybe the air systems section;)

wastedwalrus
10-31-2004, 05:06 PM
yeah this'll be stickied I bet. By the way, I just picked up this new stuff called Loctite Superglue Gel Control. Its pretty awesome. I definetely recommend it to get off stripped screws.

Ice Marine
11-01-2004, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Andrew Orde
What is this so called "Loctite"?

Are there any other uses for Loctite?

Yes, another common use for loctite is stripped screws. If you place some Blue loctite on a hex key, screw driver...and let it dry completely you should be able to remove the screw. You use blue so you don't ruin your tool. Of course another option for this is taking your piece to a machine shop and they can remove it for you.


dude that's smart, I never thought of that.


Another section you might want to look into is, how to clean off the loctite after you remove two pieces stuck together.

Cliche
11-01-2004, 05:53 AM
Maybe it's not stickied because the information in there is misleading or incomplete.

First, Loctite makes a green threadlocker, between purple and blue.

Second, if you try to use an open flame to heat the loctite, you RUIN THE FINISH OF YOUR ANNO. I love how a so-called sticky-worthy thread tells you how to permanently f-up your gun.

Third, most of the information is stupid. The most common places to get Loctite are Wal-mart and Home Depot? What about K-Mart and Lowe's? No, they don't count. :rolleyes:

Fourth, you totally ignored the number on the bottle, which is just as important as the color.

Fifth, it's spelled "does," D-O-E-S. Dose is how I measure medicine. Does is a form of the verb "to do."

Sixth, you never once mentioned using Loctite to actually lock thread on screws. Set screw frequently need to be Loctited so they don't back out. Did you mention that? No, but you did tell me a cheap way to ruin my anno.

Seventh, remove the "Superglue or Loctite? I have a brain the size of a pee" part because you made it up entirely. It's not even coherent.

Eigth, you spelling and grammar are painful.

I could write a better "FAQ" for Loctite in ten minutes.

Jaster
11-01-2004, 06:41 AM
Then do it and quit you damn complaining about everything under the sun.

Great post Andrew. I do agree that there are a couple things missing in the info though. I think putting these suggestions into your original post withh be greatly helpful.

IdiotWithAFlash
11-01-2004, 07:12 AM
shut up cliche, no one likes you

"Loctite will create a special bond between the metals"

metal love potion #38: loctite

:laugh:

teufelhunden
11-01-2004, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by IdiotWithAFlash
shut up cliche, no one likes you

"Loctite will create a special bond between the metals"

metal love potion #38: loctite

:laugh:


Actually, it does bond on a molecular level or something. And only metal to metal. Not plastic to paper. It isn't just sticky. There's a reason the damned little tube costs an arm and a leg.

IdiotWithAFlash
11-01-2004, 07:38 AM
if it bonded at a molecular level it would solidify the two metals... creating one (example: welding)

other than that i have no clue what i am talking about

Jaster
11-01-2004, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by IdiotWithAFlash
shut up cliche, no one likes you

If I'm not going to let him bad mouth peeps and flame, what makes you think it will be OK for you? It's MY job to put peeps in their place, not yours.

MA_paintballer
11-01-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Cliche
Maybe it's not stickied because the information in there is misleading or incomplete.

First, Loctite makes a green threadlocker, between purple and blue.

Second, if you try to use an open flame to heat the loctite, you RUIN THE FINISH OF YOUR ANNO. I love how a so-called sticky-worthy thread tells you how to permanently f-up your gun.

Third, most of the information is stupid. The most common places to get Loctite are Wal-mart and Home Depot? What about K-Mart and Lowe's? No, they don't count. :rolleyes:

Fourth, you totally ignored the number on the bottle, which is just as important as the color.

Fifth, it's spelled "does," D-O-E-S. Dose is how I measure medicine. Does is a form of the verb "to do."

Sixth, you never once mentioned using Loctite to actually lock thread on screws. Set screw frequently need to be Loctited so they don't back out. Did you mention that? No, but you did tell me a cheap way to ruin my anno.

Seventh, remove the "Superglue or Loctite? I have a brain the size of a pee" part because you made it up entirely. It's not even coherent.

Eigth, you spelling and grammar are painful.

I could write a better "FAQ" for Loctite in ten minutes.
Do you enjoy being an *******? Awesome post Andrew, you answered alot of my questions, despite what he thinks.

STO Balla 22
11-01-2004, 12:35 PM
Read Cliche's thread about loctite and then see if you think he deserves a flaming, he did what he said he could do.

Cliche
11-01-2004, 01:33 PM
But it took me 11 minutes to do.

LAMANTEthePBguy
11-01-2004, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Cliche

Eigth, you spelling and grammar are painful.I hope that was on purpose?

It's spelled Eighth.

Cliche
11-01-2004, 02:31 PM
I also left the "r" off of "your." Obviously it was on purpose.