wtf???

[cheappaintman]

i recently was loaned a new implse. it was the wrost gun i shot. the trigger has so much play its not funny. my srt has a better trigger than this thing. and the lpr went tits up until my friend fixed it then tried to say its normal for a new gun. ive plauyed with bushies alot. and they were a hell of alot better than an imp. and the imp is way overpriced for wat u get. 550 for ace while a bushy is 500 w/ pds and cp 1 piece barrel. i am greatly dissappointed with it. im glad i didnt buy it. the bolt is the worse thing ive seen. to eqal a bushy ud need a new trigger then lpr then bolt. did he just get a lemon or is this normal? im never gtin a sp gun cuze of this

[naught]

take it from me ive done well over the required homework on Impulses. Im thinking this somthing your friend did wrong. Does he clean and lube it at all? Theres a million diffrent things that go wrong with all kinds of guns bushies 2. Apparently your friend didnt set it up right because if all imps where like this then SP wouldnt be in buisness heh have a local store look at it, thats what i would do if all esle failed

[dpbmustanglax]

Something must have been extremely messed up on that Imp you used cuz every Impulse I have played with or watched someone playing with has done nothing but work perfectly with no problems.

[Dark Master]

Originally posted by dpbmustanglax
Something must have been extremely messed up on that Imp you used cuz every Impulse I have played with or watched someone playing with has done nothing but work perfectly with no problems.

Agreed :tup: lol

My imp works perfect. The only time i here that imps suck is when people dont take care of them.

[TheUsualSuspect]

I'l admit that the trigger That comes on impulses has alot of side play and he was probably using a stock bolt from what I hear of it.(not smart) but that doesn't mean it should perform sloppy. As for the LPR setup I see no reason for this to affect the guns playing abilities, _unless_ he did't have it set up correctly wich I doubt he would by the sounds of things considering it broke on him... Personaly I don't know why he would spend money on the LPR before having a delrin bolt any way. LPR's especialy can be hard to setup flawlessly.

As for bushies I know of one shop in my town that won't even carry Indian Creek Design markers because of all the internal failures and leaks he has seen with the in my opinion cheaply made guns. <<(I'l get flammed for that one) People who buy from ICD are usualy looking for a gun that comes with a delrin bolt and what looks to be a decent trigger.<<(That one too)After all why buy from ICD when you could have an SP with more aftermarket part selection? I don't think this experience should affect your outlook on Smart Part guns at all. They back their products 100 percent and I will to until proven otherwise.

-Andrew

[toothpastedog]

Originally posted by cheappaintman
i recently was loaned a new implse. it was the wrost gun i shot. the trigger has so much play its not funny. my srt has a better trigger than this thing. and the lpr went tits up until my friend fixed it then tried to say its normal for a new gun. ive plauyed with bushies alot. and they were a hell of alot better than an imp. and the imp is way overpriced for wat u get. 550 for ace while a bushy is 500 w/ pds and cp 1 piece barrel. i am greatly dissappointed with it. im glad i didnt buy it. the bolt is the worse thing ive seen. to eqal a bushy ud need a new trigger then lpr then bolt. did he just get a lemon or is this normal? im never gtin a sp gun cuze of this

no, to compair to a bushmaster, an impulse needs a new trigger, bolt and tapworm, totalling about 60$.

why did you post that, was there a purpose to it, or were you just trying to get us pissed?

[TheUsualSuspect]

If your so loyal to ICD why even bother to come into an SP forum if you never even plan on buying one of their products again. Other then just to get us ticked off.

You lose at marker judgment...

[Azn_Boy]

sigh...u ICD ppl who are always against us impulse ppl but hey its not my fault u guys have to be jealous:rolleyes:

[toothpastedog]

Originally posted by Azn_Boy
sigh...u ICD ppl who are always against us impulse ppl but hey its not my fault u guys have to be jealous:rolleyes: :laugh:

[Halliday]

I've seen more Bushies with problems than Imps.

[G_unit_gangsta]

amen!!!:notwrthy: :notwrthy:

[cheappaintman]

i didnt want to pis ppl off, i was just surious if my friend is too stupid to set it up or if they are all like that. im just tryin to find a nice gun. so far its eather a private label shocker or a dm5 or a timmy

[toothpastedog]

although i would guess your friend is stupid, i can say for sure that he is lazy and doesn't take the time to learn about/read manual/clean his gun... things you should do no matter what kind of gun you own...

[vector911]

I'm not thrilled with either the IMP or B2K stock. I'm neither pro or con B2k, but stock the LPR included with it was horrible, and the combination of trigger and board limitations made it very difficult to fire quicker than 9 bps. After 2003 they pretty much fixed that on the B2k's though..

I've had a fully modded B2k for a while now. It has 3 stock items left, the body, selenoid, and the bolt...

I'm about to pick up an imp and do the same thing to it. Its supriseing the amount of upgrades possible for the imp. I can actually BUY aftermarket bodies and aftermarket ram kits. All of which are either completely custom or non-existant for the B2k

[Dark Master]

If you are gonna pick up a imp, buy a used one. It will come with more parts at a cheap price, like my rat jr.:P

[toothpastedog]

no, get an AI, i want darkmaster to suffer :P...

[Dark Master]

:pissed: :mad: :pissed: :yell: :kiss:

[vector911]

yeah I traded my A4 for a 04 WASed imp with a couple upgrades, and a bunch of $$. It looks to have nice potential. Strange body w/LPR is on order, trying to decide on either a OTB frame (have one on my B2k) or I think the I frame that eliminates the battery box. After that probably go all NDZ internals. Probably keep the max flow HPR, and of course the selenoid.

imp $330
body w/lpr $225
NDZ ram/hammer $87 ?
NDZ valve $35?
NDZ Bolt $35
NDZ halo B detents $20?
OTB frame $120

$852


B2k $290
LPR $80
hpr $80
OTB frame $120
Valve $34
PDS eye install $125
CHAOS board $90
Custom ram setup $65
15 deg asa $35
detents $12

$931 ouch, no custom body. The imp is used with WAS board and vision where the B2k is new and blind. The IMP would have been more expensive to upgrade if you take into account the board price.

[toothpastedog]

This is what you should do:

Keep WAS Board,
Keep LPR Kit,
Keep Stock Aluminum Hammer,

Buy:
New Designz Equalizer Bolt,
New Designz Titanium Bolt Pin,
New Designz Silk Shot Ram,
Whatever trigger frame you want, imo, since it makes you gun soooo much smaller, i would get either the AIM frame or the I-frame,
New Designz RIP Valve,
New HPR, a Sidewinder or 2L are the two of the three best out there...

You don't need a new hammer assembly, unless you have the extra 40$ burning a hole in your pocket, save your money and buy something that actually does something like a RIP valve or Silk Shot Ram. About the detents, it doesn't hurt to have extras, in fact, i suggest it, but you don't need them...

and about the i-frame, it doesn't do anything to the space the battery is kept in, is combineds the solenoid tray and the trigger frame-on the stock frame/tray they are held together by screws and the i-frame makes them a lot shorts and just one peice.

[ikey]

but we did have a discussion that if you want to buy the ND ran assembly that was worth it, especially the one with the rat hole SS hammer on it. and we also said that the housing was a littel more efficent, mabe 50-100 more shots. but the housing alone for 40 bucks is not a good deal.

[toothpastedog]

yeh, but if he buys the hammer assembly+hammer+ram seperately, it sure isn't... even just a silk shot, since that is the only part on the hammer assembly he needs, cost 30$, you are saving 50$ by just buying that instead of the whole package, which he doesn't need (and will only give him a realistic 70 more shots)...

[ikey]

yeah i just got that because 1. i too kmy hammer off a couple times and think its a b*tch, so i wanted the drop in thingy. 2. cause i was going to but a hammer and a slick shot already, so i said 70 more shots, why not. 3. its still 70 more shots. ive been in a game where i use my air and only had 2 shots worht of air left (but my team was winning and meand two other guys ran up and the two guys did most of the shooting cause i couldnt and i bunkerd a guy, and ps NEVER buy a small nitro tank cause at the time i was renting a 47/3000. it sucked.) and i really could have used 70 more shots. so in that case if you want a hammer and a slik shot, and dont like screwing with your gun because you just like to "drop" things in, tehn i find it very worth it. (i dont mind messing with my gun i just hate taking my hammer off. i dont like all the heating and elbow grease it takes)

[toothpastedog]

yeh, the whole assembly might be a good idea for him just because it is some much more user friendly. removing you hammer isn't hard to do though, and a good skill to have because it help you understand how you impulse works.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Wow every thread in the impulse forum at one time or another turns into a discussion between Ikey and TPD...
Oh, well they are helpful anyway. Please do continue. :blah:

[vector911]

thanks for the info guys. My thinking was to purchase the ram assembly and avoid the risk of scarring the hammer or shaft. I would like to keep the stock alum hammer so that pretty much makes the whole assembly overpriced, and negates my reasoning for buying it in the first place.
(Is there a allen key socket on the shaft so all you have to do is hold the ram? <I'm searching for this info now...) edit: <found it, looks simple enough..

I thought the max flow vert HPR was some quality stuff? give me the lowdown; consistancy? shootdown? too much maint? I'm a big fan of AKA stuff as you can tell from my B2k setup. Now only if they made a SCM2 for this impulse! If a new HPR is required I'm going to try a CP. There has been some recent news that the CP regs have consistantly out performed the sidewinders. <I have to find out heh..

The body kit comes with a LPR on it so I thought it would look nice, be light, have the LPR (which I would just buy anyhow), and increase resale considering ppl seem to demand aftermarket bodies. <selling the stock body might cut the overall price if there is a market for that kind of thing..

http://img110.exs.cx/img110/2332/strangevisionbody.th.jpg (http://img110.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img110&image=strangevisionbody.jpg)

The detents, I'm just paranoid. The B2K's ball detents (not the new o-ring ones) would not hold back the mighty HaloB. I see these NDZ HaloB detents and think I have to have em. I'll try shooting it first to see if it's required or not..

thanks for all the info, I'm excited to spend $$ on this imp and see how well it will do compared to the B2K. Each will have only the best and I'm prepared to be impressed either way.... (probably get beat down by the wife in the process)

[ikey]

the maci is a great reg ubt u gotta maintain it. and yes you can put a scm on an impy. you get the cocker version and put it on the vertical asa right over the maxflow where that silver pressure releif valve is.

[vector911]

PRV the brass plug above the Maxi? will this screw in where the tapeworm would usually go? I've never seen this setup in pics before, I'll have to do some more searching. and keeping the stock valve cap would be nice. Surprised this is not the preferred setup..

[toothpastedog]

no, see where the lpr is mounted on this rat's VA:

http://www.e-paintballoutlet.com/0802blkredgloss.jpg

well, that is where you want to put the scm if you want to use one. the bad thing about maxflo's, is like impulses, they will stop working if you don't clean then but if you do, they will work very very well. unlike impulses though, they are kinda a pain to clean and keep clean. a new reg, once things like a new board, ram, valve, barrel, etc, are purchased, is a must. the stock cap will work fine.

[vector911]

ahhh pictures. That helped alot. Will help even more when I lay my hands on the gun and start ordering the new parts..

I understand now what's going on with the LPR setup on the impulse now. The LPR needs a external HP source (this case attached above the maxflow or on the cap) and it's LP output to the Selenoid using the plastic line attached to the LPR nipple. The SCM I feel are a better choice of LPR, but the setup is kinda fugly (think classic dual regged timmy). Not that SCM's are great looking in the first place..

I've been in paintball since 96' so I'm just new to imps in this case. I've been spoiled in the LPR area because of no external lines have ever been needed. (never owned a cocker, OH! my vector and rainmaker had em, almost forgot, it's been a while..). Last 6 years I've had nothing but B2k's and angels. <their LPR systems use internal porting and no lines, which is where my confusion comes from.

thanks for all the info. Have to get all of my facts straight instead of blindly buying parts. Just re-read the TPD LPR post again, and I think it's sinking in...

[toothpastedog]

nice work

[vector911]

well unfourtunately, the guy will not be trading his wassed IMP +$$ for my A4 anymore. He backed out at the last min after breaking his gun, or some excuse.. Was looking foreward to modding this thing up.... Thanks anyhow guys..