View Full Version : Spyder Shutter vs. Tippman 98
Swifty
12-13-2001, 12:39 PM
My friend wants to know which one to get and why...btw how long is the flatline barrel?
VeNoM
12-13-2001, 12:51 PM
i personally like the shutter (or any spyder for that matter) way more than a tippman. i just dont like tippmans, they are long and feel weird in my hands, i cant hold it the way i traditionally hold a marker. i had a shutter for my first gun and i loved it, i put a big shot on it and it was pretty accurate and i was really comfortable with it. its personal preference, and also IMO the shuter looks WAY better than the tippmans.
liquidsoul_sm
12-13-2001, 09:37 PM
To me looks aren't as important as performance. As a spyder owner I can tell you that Tippmanns fit and finish is top quality. I would highly recommend the Tippmann Custom 98 as a first marker. IMO it is one of the best markers out there in any price range. There is no limit to how far you can customize the marker. Or you can leave it stock and still have a reliable accurate (With upgraded barrel) marker that will out live your next two markers. The CVX valve is wonderful with CO2 and you don't have to worry about the internals freezing. You can drop the marker off of a cliff and it still will probably work. You can touch a spyder the wrong way and the air hose with fall off (I am not kidding). Purchase the 98. It will save you money, and a lot of hassle. Not to mention it outperforms the Spyder even if the tippy is ugly.
D*mn, I should be a moderator! LOL:laugh:
skole
12-31-2001, 08:20 AM
I wrote this comparison for another thread, "Is Custom 98 a newbie gun" or something similar to that. It is probably too late to be of any help but there may be others.......
First of all, I am a newbie to the sport. (To date, 1 very solid month of rec ball thanks to the holidays and at least 5000+ rounds). However, I have spent many hours researching what is what before I purchased anything.
I agree with the others who have responded, the 98 should probably be considered as a newbie gun.
There are definitely both cheaper and more expensive newbie guns, but I seriously doubt you will find a better, more reliable or upgradable marker on the market.
Most of my friends I play with have 98Cs. To date I am unaware of even a single mechanical problem, (these guys/girls are also newbies and there are is at least 9-98Cs and going up daily.) The biggest problem has been broken paint. 98% of that was Brass Eagle and should be expected anytime this crap is used.
Upon the advice of a dealer's service department my first purchase was a Spyder Shutter. It is approximately $80 bones more. To date I have experienced no mechanical problems with this gun either. There is a second Spyder out there with us and his experience has been similar.
There is also a few that have shown up with a Wally-World brass eagle markers and have already returned and replaced this joke of a gun wannabe, (even their most expensive marker with a bottom line and is the same $$ as a 98C.) The Brass Eagles's markers all bust paint in the barrel, even with quality paint. Just heed my warning, and DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON ANYTHING AT ALL THE HAS "BRASS EAGLE" IN ITS NAME.
OK, back to my comparison. I believe my stock Shutter is a little more accurate at distance, (50-75yds) than the stock 98C. Is this due to the longer stock Shutter barrel? Probably! (Shutter=12 in 98C=8 1/2 in.) Is it a significant difference? Nope! And, if you read much at all, you will find, the very first recommended upgrade on any marker is an aftermarket barrel. So, the next question should be, could you buy a better barrel with the $80 saved on the 98C. Absolutely!
Moving right along, the Spyder comes with a "regulator/pressure gauge" and an expansion chamber. The "regulator/pressure gauge on he Shutter is a joke and does little more than give you the bottle pressure. In other words it is a pretty little device that does nothing and will break someday. The expansion chamber on the other hand does seem to make a difference. However, as previously mentioned, the 98C is highly upgradable and expansion chamber are available for it all over the net for $40-45 bucks. I would recommend this.
Since beginning a month ago, I have taken my wife out to play. After one day of play, she demanded her own marker. I purchased for her a Custom 98 and I ordered an expansion chamber at the same time.
This has given me an opportunity to strip both guns down. I find the 98C is much easier to work on and this thing is built like a tank! The expansion chamber is really easy to install and anyone with a little mechanical ability can do this.
My only recommendation on tearing down the 98C is give yourself plenty of time to become familiar with it. It took me several tries to get it back together right. (Be careful with the front sight spring, as that little bugger will take off and get transported to OZ I guess. Mine went sprung and have yet to find it.)
In conclusion, I would recommend the 98C to anyone. If money is no object, go ahead and get a Spyder Shutter. (It has other features than mentioned that make the gun nice.) OR spend the extra $80 bones saved on the 98C on an expansion chamber and barrel.
Feel free to e-mail me if you prefer more info on either marker.
I have new barrels on order for both guns and will update the accuracy comment once both have been tested
Tippmannmann
12-31-2001, 08:59 AM
TIPPMANN 98 CUSTOM!
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