View Full Version : is this gun good Trilogy Pro Autococker
korn411
12-20-2004, 10:26 AM
i was wondering if Trilogy Pro Autococker was a good gun. how many balls per second. is it elecrtric. the price is good.is it better than the imagie or fenix.
Eladamri
12-20-2004, 11:17 AM
Its not a bad gun, its overpriced for what you get though. 5 -7 bps stock. It is not electric. The Imagine is possibly the best bang for you're buck marker right now. The fenix is overpriced for what you get, cheaper to get the Imagine and upgrade the parts you want to upgrade.
banderson
12-20-2004, 02:18 PM
I would totally recomend a Trilogy.The are a lot cheaper that say the Pro Stock but just as good.If you are looking for electric i would try the Dragun TES.
-cavebat
Eladamri
12-20-2004, 04:08 PM
The trilogy series markers are not just as good as the pro stock. Go to the WGP forum and say that and you will get flamed. The integrated front block makes the markers simplier but also severly limits the upgrade path. The stock trigger frame is too compact, and has a huge trigger pull on the Trilogy line, and you can't eblade it without major modifications. Here is a pretty good excerpt from the Cocker Forum: Originally posted by rainofpaint
Regarding the trilogy cocker, I will agree with a former post, but I'll also state why.
To begin, your upgrade options are severely limited with the new trilogy, you CANNOT upgrade them to an electronic trigger frame that uses a solenoid to actuate, this means that the raceframe and E-blade, the most popular electronic triggers, are right out. I have no information on the uprising 2.0 from centerflag, but the uprising 1 did not use a solenoid, therefore making it a possibility for the trilogy.
The trilogy is a beginners gun, I can't imagine them being very good for tournaments being a slower rate of fire. As stated before, your best bet is certainly a 03 or 02 vert feed cocker, these can be had for as little as 150 these days, and the upgrade options are immeasurable.
My bias against the trilogy is well founded. I like my front block, it was a good setup, and since the birth of the cocker, it's been the absolute best way to upgrade and improve the performance and reliability of the autococker, removing the ability to chance even one of the pneumatics was a bad move on k2's behalf. The 3-way is an integral upgrade option to shortening the pull and thus increasing the rate of fire of the mechanical autococker class of marker. I haven't had a chance to measure the actuation points of the new integrated 3 way, but it looks like a rather long actuation, based on where it was crafted into, the top of the ASA.
I'm almost tempted to get one, just to see what I can do to it with a dremel tool and a set of taps and dies.
Hrbie1
12-20-2004, 07:26 PM
Just purchased the Trilogy Kit last week (mask, tank, marker etc). It cost me $119 for the whole kit. For the price I feel it is a great entry level marker. I plan on using it this year to get my feet wet and upgrade to a more advanced Cocker next year.
Andrew Orde
12-20-2004, 08:20 PM
a trilogy is not that good. People think it can compete with other cockers but it can not. It is just another LOW END gun. It has no advantage over anyother gun. It is comperable to stock mechanical low end guns. Barely semis IMO. I would almost rather use a talon than this. And if you get one for 119 it is obviously the sport which is the lowest of them all. It dosent have a reg. Its just barely a beginner gun. I got my e-99 for 149. Trilogys are no good. and just about anything is better than them. Dont get one. Or if you do at least get the pro. Or a 03 autococker.
Hrbie1
12-21-2004, 02:15 PM
Here are some reviews on the Trilogy.
http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/3234/?n=1
Justin66
12-22-2004, 05:23 AM
i noticed that not one review stated anything about it being hard to upgrade...if upgradeable at all
ShockerKid82
12-22-2004, 09:51 AM
is this even considered an auto cocker?? lol;. This is personally THE WORST gun I have ever used
ShockerKid82
12-22-2004, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by Hrbie1
Here are some reviews on the Trilogy.
http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/3234/?n=1
thats not the cheap one. Were talkin about the normal trilogy with the 5.0 rating
Hrbie1
12-22-2004, 04:15 PM
Sorry, here is the review 7.5 out of 10.
http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/3235/
dashfan87
12-23-2004, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by ShockerKid82
is this even considered an auto cocker?? lol;. This is personally THE WORST gun I have ever used
are you even a member??, lol;. you are THE WORST member i have ever seen
Spyderlover120
12-24-2004, 12:58 PM
i personally dont like to know i have 14 moving parts inside my marker
ShockerKid82
12-24-2004, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Hrbie1
Sorry, here is the review 7.5 out of 10.
http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/3235/
Average Rating: 5.3 / 10
Cadet2005
12-24-2004, 02:39 PM
Shockerkid,
I see you don't know anyrthing about stats, but he is right about the rating. It is about 7.5 because the third one isn't even a critique. Heck, I would leave that as a flame. So I think saying it is a 5.3 is an unjust assumption.
Hrbie, when you get a chance, drop in a review telling us of your thoughts as a beginniner gun and how it performed. Good luck with it!
Hrbie1
12-25-2004, 10:02 AM
I will do that Cadet. It's about 10 degrees today but should get into the 50s by Monday. Will try and play with it then.
Banshee Man
12-25-2004, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Eladamri
Its not a bad gun, its overpriced for what you get though. 5 -7 bps stock. It is not electric. The Imagine is possibly the best bang for you're buck marker right now. The fenix is overpriced for what you get, cheaper to get the Imagine and upgrade the parts you want to upgrade.
You pretty much summed it up.
jdolla
12-25-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Justin66
i noticed that not one review stated anything about it being hard to upgrade...if upgradeable at all
exactly
the only upgrades that are no longer compatible are the LPR and 3-way, and e-blades obviously can't be used.
other than that, everything else is compatible with any autococker parts on the market
as retarded as integrating the 3-way was, it didn't take a huge bite out of its upgradeability
Hrbie1
12-28-2004, 07:31 PM
Used it today for the first time. Chopped many balls and the curve balls I shot would make a MLB pitcher proud.
I understand getting used to firing it will help the chopping but a new barrel is a must asap.
Andrew Orde
12-29-2004, 10:39 AM
and wrong again. You were short strokeing. Thats why you were chopping. I bet you were useing co2 also.
The reason the trilogy is so expensive is because it actually comes with a decent stock barrel. WGP makes fine barrels and the pro comes with 2 backs. Take a spyder buy a new barrel and bolt and its just as good if not better than a trilogy.
And what are you tlaking about? Takeing out the 3 way removes most of the upgradeability. It removed e-frames from being just a drop in. they can still be used tho. If you read this (http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=278903) you will understand. You cant shorten the pull because of 3-way. You cant get new 3-ways for shorter and more adjustable pulls. It takes out so much of the play with autocockers.
A trilogy is an autococker, just a dumbed down autococker. It may perform ok but in reality it is < a 98 custom. Just go with a 2k4 vf or a spyder.
And you dont think a any other gun has moveing parts? I understand how autocockers work much better than other guns. Its not hard at all.
And this thread is on the trilogy pro (http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/3232/) not the comp or sport. kthxbye.
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