markers- pro and cons

[andrewmc]

ok everyone here is it,

I am going to buy a new marker. I would really appreciate it everyone would help me with my decision. I have a budget of $250. I would like a marker that can be used with HPA and CO2 both, and that is ready to use both right out of the box. I don't know if you have to buy a certain type to use HPA or not. But, anywho just give me some advice on markers that are good, bad, and ugly. (not realy) any way hope to hear lots of advice from everyone. you private message me, email me or just reply to this forum. thanks alot

hope to hear from you all soon
andrew

[evilhomer]

For 250 you could get a nice used Cocker or Classic Automag/Minimag. If you're going new, I'd get a nice electronic Spyder.

[pbdan9190]

Originally posted by evilhomer
For 250 you could get a nice used Cocker or Classic Automag/Minimag. If you're going new, I'd get a nice electronic Spyder.

If you're going to use co2 with a mech 'cocker be sure to a/s it. Otherwise an Imagine with some ups wouldn't be bad, or possibly a TES.

[Angelmarine05]

Id get a nice Electronic Spyder. Or a nice used cocker.

[Akarikon]

A Spyder TL-X or WGP Autococker Trilogy Pro

[andrewmc]

ok so far everyone has said that an autococker or an eletro-marker. so what is so great about an autococker? and an electro-gun? so far i have been doing a little homework and so far i think that i will go with an electro-gun. but i have seen pirrana, spyder, and moongoose all look pretty nice. but still not sure and haven't made up my mind.

[evilhomer]

Pirhanas or Spyders are good. Stay away from Mongooses.




Or is it mongeese?

[can'tthink of1]

Get a TES or an EVO.

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by andrewmc
ok so far everyone has said that an autococker or an eletro-marker. so what is so great about an autococker? and an electro-gun? so far i have been doing a little homework and so far i think that i will go with an electro-gun. but i have seen pirrana, spyder, and moongoose all look pretty nice. but still not sure and haven't made up my mind.

an electronic blowback would be a good choice for you. IMO a spyder imagine would give you the best bang for your buck.

look around http://www.pbgear.com for other ideas

[andrewmc]

what is an evo or tes?? who is the manafactor? you have to use laymans terms cause i am a newbie, ha ha or something

[DarkKnight1312]

a piranha evo and the dragun t.e.s.:rolleyes:

You can do some searching yourself you know

[andrewmc]

ok i have been looking for the dragun T.E.S. and cannot find the darn thing on any website. i have found the evo and that is pretty nice i am also considering and spyder pilot acs. but if you refer me to the site for the dragun would be much appreciated. thanks

[Everlight389]

Originally posted by andrewmc
ok i have been looking for the dragun T.E.S. and cannot find the darn thing on any website. i have found the evo and that is pretty nice i am also considering and spyder pilot acs. but if you refer me to the site for the dragun would be much appreciated. thanks

I believe that it's www.dragunempire.com

Honestly their guns aren't very good and have quality control issues. I actually may be doing a "Super-spyder" to save money for other things (like a car). After hours of research, here goes...

Spyder E-99 Avant (I like rear-cocking and the drop forward)
T-board (www.scenariodreams.com)
ACP Slasher trigger (www.acp-products.com)
Barrel (J&J Ceramic is a good one)
Regulator (Bob long torp, CP grip reg)

^ The initial stuff

Over time or if you really want to mess with it the gun:

New valve (New designz HP is a good one)
Spring kit (a given, 32* is a good one)
Lighter bolt (aka more CPS, lower pressure, ect)

[CaptainFuzzy]

If I were you I'd look in to getting a 2k2 shocker.
Pros:
- Very quiet
- Run well on co2
- Accurate (consistent, even with co2)
- Can usually be found for very cheap (Around $200 or less on the forums, and that's usually with a good barrel/set)
- Decently quick (the 2k2's will hit up to around 10-12bps)
- Unique
- Very little kick

Cons:
- Kinda bulky/weighty
- Little aftermarket support
- Many moving parts

Neutral:
- Closed bolt (can be good or bad depending on your personal tastes)

Of all the guns I've owned, one of my favorites was my old 2k2 shocker, I wish I still had it :)

[Everlight389]

Are you thinking of the Impulse maybe? Shockers are more than that, even used old ones, from what I've seen. Used autocockers would also be a good choice as long as you don't need to shoot very fast.

[MA_paintballer]

Originally posted by Everlight389
Are you thinking of the Impulse maybe? Shockers are more than that, even used old ones, from what I've seen. Used autocockers would also be a good choice as long as you don't need to shoot very fast.
No, old sports and 4x4's have gone for less than $200. If you want a gun you can upgrade as you go along I'd say used cocker, as long as you maintain it.

[penguins_r_kewl]

Shoebox, Rainmaker, used mech Cocker, or a good Spyder.

[Everlight389]

Originally posted by MA_paintballer

No, old sports and 4x4's have gone for less than $200. If you want a gun you can upgrade as you go along I'd say used cocker, as long as you maintain it.

Ah, k :)

I looked at em on Ebay though and saw them for $400, but Ebay is overpriced

[wordf0o]

Syndicate Misfit is always good. I have one so I know.

[Rebelpballer06]

Originally posted by Akarikon
A Spyder TL-X or WGP Autococker Trilogy Pro

Trilogy = basicly a bad focker.
TL-X = Get Imagine for same price.

[andrewmc]

ok i have finall narrowed it down between two guns
the pirrahna evo or an electro spyder. i did also have a dragun T.E.S. in thier also but i a little to pricy for my budget so if anyone has evo or an pretty nice spyder let me know what you think. which is better in your opion. thanks alot

hope to hear from you all
andrew

[wordf0o]

There are spyder vs. evo threads. IMO, Spyder.

[f2f4]

Spyder Imagine. No substitutes.

[CaptainFuzzy]

I'd say EVO. An eye is a grand thing to have, and their eye's work very well. I've owned both and I liked both of them, but with the evo you have the security of the eyes.

[DarkKnight1312]

Originally posted by andrewmc
ok i have finall narrowed it down between two guns
the pirrahna evo or an electro spyder. i did also have a dragun T.E.S. in thier also but i a little to pricy for my budget so if anyone has evo or an pretty nice spyder let me know what you think. which is better in your opion. thanks alot

hope to hear from you all
andrew

tes is cheaper than the evo:eyes:

[robdamanii]

EVO quality control and parts quality beats anything kingman.

Hell ANYTHING made in the USA (PMI) beats anything made in Taiwan (Kingman).

[F0amy]

Originally posted by Rebelpballer06


Trilogy = basicly a bad focker.
TL-X = Get Imagine for same price.

the trilogy isnt a focker, it is made by wgp.

there just made lower end to get people into the whole cocker thingar


and id say go with a old shocker, they shoot soo smooth and run co2 nicely