Dual Detent Mod for Halo B use on tippy

[yakitori]

This is really intended for ppl who have RTs, or Ebolts, or no sear :P. Now all joking aside. Some may think it is an overkill for a tippy to have a halo B on it, but i think that there are definitely benefits to having one if you have a RT tippy or a 98 w/ an ebolt on it. Or even on NNs supergun if he hasnt already done any mods.

this is just a thought, and I have no need for doing this mod cause my tippy ups have been sold for a high end gun. I have been recommending for ppl to buy a higher end gun w/ eyes if they plan on playing in tournaments, but face it, there are a lot of ppl who have these ups on their guns, and maybe they can try this. It may void the warranty, which is no big deal cause you can afford every part to your gun and build it from scratch. ;) .

How about milling out the area where the current ball detent is. you would have to shave or file a little from each reciever (both left and right). The idea is to shave just enough off to sqeeze another ball detent in there and viola....dual detents. This may be strong enough to withstand the force of the Halo B.

maybe someone can try and let us know how it goes.

[p8ntba11dude89]

What's this? yakitori?!?!?! good to know your still alive :P

heck, that might work, maybe ill try that, or maybe not ;)

[PB4841LVR]

Or maybe could you put one at the top of the chamber if there is room. I am not looking at my gun right now so I would have to see. If you get my idea, there would be one below and above the ball. Because, wouldn't two latches at the bottom put more topspin on the ball? Just wondering. I'll get back later today to see if another one would fit above it. But yeah, great idea.:tup: :tup:

[Greedy]

Wow he lives. So you just sat there one day and thought of the Tippy people and said "Wow, a Halo B on a Model 98(C) would be alot better if it had Dual Detents."

First off, why were you thinking of this on a gun you sold us out on :( (trader) and two, am I the only one that finds it funny that M98 people are putting on Hopper Systems that cost more than the gun they're using?

I'm disappointed in you you stud. BTW, school started today, if anyone is a Chemistry Wiz please PM me.

[yakitori]

haha, actually the idea just popped into my head when I was looking at the tippmann effect picture thread and saw those guys using halos on their tippys. :P.

I am thinking that this will work. I dont think it will put backspin on the ball cause the bolt pushes the ball passed the detent before hitting it w/ a burst of air from the valve I think.

I would try it and post up pics of step by step instructions if I had an ebolt or even an RT on my tippy. There is no way I could pull my mech tippy fast enough to get a real test to it, so not much of a need for it.

I know that there are a lot of ppl who might want to try it out though, so I just posted the idea out of nowhere.

And a big hella howya doin to all my tippmann forum buddies. :wave:

I wish we could have a tippmann meet and greet tournament w/ all of us. Too bad we all live in different states. Good luck w/ school Greedy :D. I do know a little chemistry, but Ive been out of that for a while. As long as it isnt organic chem. ewwwww. that class bit me in the ***

[asfastas63]

you do realize that one ball detent works fine right?:rolleyes:

I run a halo b on my 98c with an e-bolt and i've never had a problem with it..

[ace6160]

He's back!!:love:

[yakitori]

Originally posted by asfastas63
you do realize that one ball detent works fine right?:rolleyes:

I run a halo b on my 98c with an e-bolt and i've never had a problem with it..

you do realize that you have a post count of 9, and that everyone and their dog knows that unless you keep your detents new and fresh you will get double feeds eventually. :rolleyes:

[p8ntba11dude89]

Originally posted by yakitori


you do realize that you have a post count of 9, and that everyone and their dog knows that unless you keep your detents new and fresh you will get double feeds eventually. :rolleyes:

and their fish :rolleyes:

jeeze yak, would it hurt you to get on aim every now and then to say hello :P

[yakitori]

:D Ive been posting form work when I have a few minutes, and I cannot download AIM. I will get on and im ya though. Ive just been workin on the house when I get home. Remodeling is a muther.

Sorry I shoulda used PMs for that but kinda in a hurry. Please dont penalize me! :)

[xjnation]

Originally posted by yakitori


you do realize that you have a post count of 9, and that everyone and their dog knows that unless you keep your detents new and fresh you will get double feeds eventually. :rolleyes:

I think its overkill yak I ran a Q loader on a 98c for a long time without an issue as many have, its a waste of time and will cause ball breakage I would bet

[yakitori]

didnt you also say xjnation that you could only wind your q loader up so much to prevent it from pushing past the detents. That means youre not getting full force pushing against that little crappy plastic detent. It is very unlikely that you will get ball breakage from this. The halo B pushes against balls harder than an orange tippy detent will.

Maybe it will be a waste of time. But in that case, wouldnt milling your rear sight, polishing your internals, and drilling port holes in your stock elbow be a waste of time too?

This is not a mod for everyone, only those who may have probs w/ halos pushing past detents. Thats all. nothing more.

:)

[xjnation]

you cna wind it 2 past recommended or tighter than needed.

[yakitori]

well w/ my halo B I had double feeds and even shot three balls before. Double feeds also cause chopping probs for me.

[Greedy]

It's a mod, not all mods are for everyone. Some may need it, some may not. The option is there nonetheless.

Yak-It's normal chemistry, not introduction. Then I got cellular and modelcular biology, there is where I think you would own. If you got on AIM more often we could have major scientific nerd talk. Ahh the joys of school.

[Natural Newbie]

Originally posted by yakitori


you do realize that you have a post count of 9, and that everyone and their dog knows that unless you keep your detents new and fresh you will get double feeds eventually. :rolleyes:

You do realize just because a user as a low post count, they can still have knowledge...:rolleyes:


Anyways,
With a fresh detent a HALO B works fine. A worn out detent can lead to double feeds a few times per hopper.

[yakitori]

bleh... true about the post count. Then specify for me how long it takes for a detent to become worn out? Mine wear out in just a week or two when I played alot, unless I take them out. That just becomes a hassle to me. That is why I think that you could even shave two detents down a little on each side, then fit two detents in there w/ minimal or no milling or filing it down. You can always go back to the way it was by putting some kind of spacer in there if you dont like it.

and for the umpteenth no reading time, its just an idea. :rolleyes:


Originally posted by Natural Newbie


You do realize just because a user as a low post count, they can still have knowledge...:rolleyes:


Anyways,
With a fresh detent a HALO B works fine. A worn out detent can lead to double feeds a few times per hopper.

[Natural Newbie]

Well on a mechanical gun, when leaving the gun uncocked the detent can become too weak for a HALO B in just a few days. However it's still fine for non force fed loaders. On an E-Bolt setup where the gun stays in the cocked position the detent can stay strong for up to a year of regular play before you start to get double feeds with a HALO B.

Best solution if using a mechanical setup with a HALO B, do the quickstrip mod and take the detent out when not using your gun.

[ghilliesnipe]

Im definatly not gonna argue with the great NN, but I will argue with xjnation(who I hopefully will get to shoot at stoneman lake tommorrow):). I found that even at 8 prewinds with a new ball detent that had recently been installed (a week or two ago, and therefore as NN said already worn out) that the q loader would occasionally double feed past it.

Yak, your idea is awesome. If I keep my 98c and qloader, I will almost certainly do it rather than the labor intensive(both short term and long term since I rarely field strip my 98c) quick strip field mod that NN suggested.

Thanks Yakitori!

If it did break balls at first, after 2 or 3 days of it sitting with the bolt uncocked, I'm sure it would be fine.

[Natural Newbie]

Here is another solution. Cock your gun, stick a piece of macro line in the breech, uncock the gun. It doesn't push the detent down and your spring is almost fully de-compressed.

[ghilliesnipe]

Hmmm, I am wondering if the Halob puts out more or less pressure than a qloader at 10-12 prewinds. TY NN.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this dual detent mod? It seems like if I found that I didnt like it, I could just put a little JB weld on it to fill it back in.

[Satanicsanta090]

If someone gets it to work
STICKY!
and then maybe some pics would be nice
I dont have force feed though, so im not gonna do this.......