Pleeeeeease make my decision for me!

[professor_josh]

I need to decide what marker to buy next and I have it narrowed down to these: b2k5, 04 angel speed (used), 2k2 timmy(used), mayyyyybe a matrix or a shocker (used). If you can help me make this decision or at least help me rule out some of the options that would be cool, and I play speedball front/mid, and have about 600-650 to spend and I will be upgrading the marker over time.

[robdamanii]

Who the hell said B2k5?

There are INFINITELY better choices on the list....that's nothing but blindness and an ICD stiffy.

[Sniper15]

Out of those choices, a used Timmy or Trix without a doubt.

[marz]

why cant people just make up their own mind

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by robdamanii
Who the hell said B2k5?

There are INFINITELY better choices on the list....that's nothing but blindness and an ICD stiffy.
I dunno it just seemed like a nice marker, 1.4 pounds, fs board, clamshell frame, qevs, etc...
Originally posted by marz
why cant people just make up their own mind
Gtfo, noob.

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by professor_josh

I dunno it just seemed like a nice marker, 1.4 pounds, fs board, clamshell frame, qevs, etc...


When I see a marker lighter than an EGO, I'll believe it.

Why waste money on ICD when you've got DYE/Proto, WDP, and Bob Long on that list?

[rcxpaintball]

Originally posted by robdamanii


When I see a marker lighter than an EGO, I'll believe it.

Why waste money on ICD when you've got DYE/Proto, WDP, and Bob Long on that list?

Sonic Borg....its pretty light.....or the A-bomb....it pretty light...

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by rcxpaintball


Sonic Borg....its pretty light.....or the A-bomb....it pretty light...

Ah, ok, a bit lighter than the EGO, but they're also figuring without barrel and bottomline system. That does change things somewhat. But still, so what? A half a pound is going to kill you? There's no question here....the B2k5 is inferior to everything else on that list.

[spyder_king06]

Originally posted by robdamanii


Ah, ok, a bit lighter than the EGO, but they're also figuring without barrel and bottomline system. That does change things somewhat. But still, so what? A half a pound is going to kill you? There's no question here....the B2k5 is inferior to everything else on that list.

I dont think they are lighter either.

I held the ego a couple weeks ago, and I was amazed about how light it was. Its just crazy.

I voted used 2k2 Timmy.

[Everlight389]

Used timmy, trix, or angel will always be better than an ICD gun (except possibly the FS)

[professor_josh]

I thought that the 2k2 timmy was pretty heavy? Good for a front player? Oh and if anyone can tell me how much heavier the adrenaline impulse is than the timmy I would appreciate that. And the b2k5 is 1.9, sorry it was a type-o.

[xXniTemAreXx]

Originally posted by professor_josh
I thought that the 2k2 timmy was pretty heavy? Good for a front player?

No. Yes. Im a puny 13 year old kid, and I manage to bunker some college players with my 2k2.

[professor_josh]

Looks like I might be buying the timmy... I'm pretty much letting this thread decide it all because I like all the guns. What about an adrenaline impulse? How does that compete?

[puckscantpassme]

Shoot the guns before you buy them and as every other thread i have seen like this one says, dont let others make decissions for you.

[steve33]

Originally posted by marz
why cant people just make up their own mind

that is truly what u should be doing, just having us help u out some.

but anything other than the b2k5 would be good, if u didnt pick up on that already.

edit: pucks u beat me to it and also, the adrenaline imp is ok but i would get one of the ones from the list if u can.

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by puckscantpassme
Shoot the guns before you buy them and as every other thread i have seen like this one says, dont let others make decissions for you.
The only gun I had the opportunity to shoot was the adrenaline impulse. And I CANNOT shoot the rest :(, although I'm sure they'll all be fast and kickless.

[professor_josh]

Okay, I have to ask. Why the b2k5 hate? It will be one hell of a marker.

[rcxpaintball]

Originally posted by robdamanii


Ah, ok, a bit lighter than the EGO, but they're also figuring without barrel and bottomline system. That does change things somewhat. But still, so what? A half a pound is going to kill you? There's no question here....the B2k5 is inferior to everything else on that list.

Well actually....

MacDevs Sonic Cyborg is weighed with the Barrel on....


Im with you on that the B2K5 doesnt belong on that list....now a freestyle on the other hand....

[xXniTemAreXx]

Originally posted by professor_josh
Okay, I have to ask. Why the b2k5 hate? It will be one hell of a marker.

It may be a good marker for the price, but it wont be able to compete with the other markers up on that list.

[puckscantpassme]

You have to shoot the guns before you buy them no matter what or you might be stuck with something you realy dont like. Heres my opinion though

04 freestyle stock: Light, short, small. I held one and found it realy uncomfortable b/c the reg is realy small and the macro line goes right into the middle of it making it uncomfortable to grip

04 shocker with vertical reg: pretty much same as freestlye all though a little bit more comfortable grip.

04 Angel speed: light comfortable, but no eyes so it chops alot.

Other than that you realy need to hold them you self some people like the freestyle, I didnt. Also if you not on a team or plan to get one one and play alot of tournys you dont need guns this good.

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx


It may be a good marker for the price, but it wont be able to compete with the other markers up on that list.
That's what I've been hearing :P. I guess that's off the list so now:
Adrenaline Impulse
2k2 timmy
trix
shocker
angel speed

Who gets voted off next? And I'm surprised noone has voted angel yet!

[penguins_r_kewl]

I've shot many Matrixes, Intimidators, Shockers and Angels, and I say Speed. But thats just my preferance, I'm just an Angel person.

When you go to the field ask people if you can shoot their guns, I used to not ask people because I was afraid they'd say no or something but now that I ask people I've shot so many guns.

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl
I've shot many Matrixes, Intimidators, Shockers and Angels, and I say Speed. But thats just my preferance, I'm just an Angel person.

When you go to the field ask people if you can shoot their guns, I used to not ask people because I was afraid they'd say no or something but now that I ask people I've shot so many guns.
Any reason why you prefer it? Pros and cons? And I unfortunatley can't get to the field, I come from the land of the ice and snow if you know what I mean.

[cutomcocker1]

gen. 2 freestyle

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by cutomcocker1
gen. 2 freestyle
I've kind of lost my love for ICD and I think the fs is kind of ugly. I would rather an angel or timmy.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Buy a used 04 fly or a new shocker. You won't be disapointed.. Or of course you could buy an adrenalin impulse, EVERYONE knows it'd blow any of these nubs out of the water. mY iMp TEH SeXZORs!!!!1!1a!111!

Seriously though, shocker = light, but unreliable (IMO)
angel = fast but bigger and heavier. (Don't know about reliability...)

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by TheUsualSuspect
Buy a used 04 fly or a new shocker. You won't be disapointed.. Or of course you could buy an adrenalin impulse, EVERYONE knows it'd blow any of these nubs out of the water. mY iMp TEH SeXZORs!!!!1!1a!111!

Seriously though, shocker = light, but unreliable (IMO)
angel = fast but bigger and heavier. (Don't know about reliability...)
I just might have to get a shocker if Matt doesn't want my college tuition and first born child for it.

[xXniTemAreXx]

Originally posted by professor_josh

That's what I've been hearing :P. I guess that's off the list so now:
Adrenaline ImpulseNo.
2k2 timmyFast, efficient, upgradable, sexy, easy to maintain and comes good stock
trixFast, upgradable, decently good looking, but is a big unefficient.
shocker Stock :tdown:, W/ he bolt, tadao and NDZ trigger :tup:
angel speed Fast, efficient, okay looking, comes good stock, but no clamping neck, is a bit bigger then the other guns, but is not heavier.

Who gets voted off next? And I'm surprised noone has voted angel yet! why?

[professor_josh]

In most of these threads people have said speed...

[STO Balla 22]

Adrenaline Impulse Overpriced, overhyped, heavy, tall, slow, low resale value
2k2 timmy Well priced, not the newest gun out, but that's OK if it doesn't bother you. Fast, especially with Frenzy, small, light.
trix You said you are a front, a Trix is going to be a little heavy. A used DM4 would be nice, but I wouldn't go with anything but a Proto, DM4, or DM5, which I think are going to be out of your price range.
shocker Work great when they're working, but from my experience, that doesn't seem to be too often. They're very small and light, but SP's customer service is terrible. It seems like you don't have a whole lot of experience, but I could be wrong. If that's true, don't get a Shocker
angel speed Great gun if you like 90* Frames, I don't, but that's just me. Not a fan of the SENSI system, but it can work well when set up right.

Here's how I rank them, but again, this is just me, and feel comes into consideration when I rank them.

1) 2k2 Timmy
2) Speed
3) Tie between Trix and Shocker
5) Adrenalin Imp

[professor_josh]

I don't have a toooon of experience but I have played alot, owned a few guns, and I'm not a newbie by any stretch of the imagination.

[Everlight389]

Somehow I'm happy I don't have enough money to worry about all these different guns...

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by Everlight389
Somehow I'm happy I don't have enough money to worry about all these different guns...
But when they arrive in the mail... You're just so happy :D.

[xXniTemAreXx]

Originally posted by professor_josh

But when they arrive in the mail... You're just so happy :D.

Yeah, my parents let me stay home the day my gun came.

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx


Yeah, my parents let me stay home the day my gun came.
Lol! I ran home everyday from school at recess and during my spares to check for my last gun. Did that for two weeks!

[TheUsualSuspect]

Adrenalin Impulse: (sorry guys always must defend)
How are they slow first off?.. I can't defend it without some kind of comment to make that in any way believable.

My marker is no taller then most markers.. I'l get you some measurements if you like.

Its lighter then the stock impulse and for the same price its not a bad deal (concidering SP's imp is overpriced I'd say the price is right). I havn't tried to sell mine lately so I wouldn't know about that resale thing, but whats your reasoning for the low resale value? I see nothing about it that would make it depreciate in value faster then any other marker..

What do you mean by Hype?

[Downfall08]

here's my rating
1. timmy
2. trix
3. speed
4. shocker
5. pulse

The speed would be tied with #2 if you plan ace-ing it. imo a timmy has it all. effeciency, speed, great eyes, etc

[penguins_r_kewl]

Originally posted by professor_josh

Any reason why you prefer it? Pros and cons? And I unfortunatley can't get to the field, I come from the land of the ice and snow if you know what I mean.

I love the feel, of it, and it ALWAYS works, I have had zero problems with it, I dunno I just like the way it shoots better.

[slushii]

B2K5 :tup:, ICD is really stepping up, they are totaly re-designing thier guns.

[professor_josh]

What's heavier? The Angel Speed or the 2k2 Timmy? Angel speed is bigger, right?

[penguins_r_kewl]

Originally posted by professor_josh
What's heavier? The Angel Speed or the 2k2 Timmy? Angel speed is bigger, right?

Thinker, but the Timmy will be taller and longer, and the Speed will probably be lighter.

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl


Thinker, but the Timmy will be taller and longer, and the Speed will probably be lighter.
So... You're saying the angel is smaller, AND lighter than the timmy? Sweeeeeeeeeeet. I just saw a pic of the red speed on the last page of the all things hk and agg thread and I am in love. So guys... Should I rule out the timmy? And leave it Shocker (new), and secksi speed?

[Downfall08]

heh thats my friend's speed.

i think speeds are great guns but i absolutely hate the feel of the trigger. Thats the thing about angels: you either absolutely love them or cant stand them (this is feel)

[xXniTemAreXx]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl


Thinker, but the Timmy will be taller and longer, and the Speed will probably be lighter.

LOL! Timmys are not long or tall at all. The speed is about the same EXACT size as the timmy, but it is much thicker. If anything the speed is taller then the timmy.

[Sam#27]

id get the trix w/o a doubt

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by Sam#27
id get the trix w/o a doubt
That's been ruled out, it's now Speed, Timmy, and Shocker.

[I.A.O.A.B]

Timmeh

[Sam#27]

o my bad, then it comes down to preferance, cept for the shocker. I would steer clear of that mess

[sweden2]

I :love: angels for some reasons maybe because joy division uses 'em they're swedish and so am I :P

[professor_josh]

Okay, it's now between the speed and the 2k2. Both will be lighter than a stock 03 verticle cocker is, right? Because I never learned how much that gun weighed, but didn't think it was that heavy at all. I would have just bought the shocker but I would have had to pay like a grand for it (I'm canadian).

[xXniTemAreXx]

Do you have any shops near you? If you do go to it and see if you can hold a 2k2 and speed.

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx
Do you have any shops near you? If you do go to it and see if you can hold a 2k2 and speed.
Can't, my shop doesn't have either of them. But I know what I'm doing now, I'm keeping my eye out for either a black/orange or black/grey or black/yellow timmy, and a red speed or a4, so whichever I find first when I get my cash I'll buy. I don't think I can possibly go wrong with either though. Thanks for the help guys!

[Pan The Piper]

havent read through all of the posts but....

get a b2k5 its the only marker thats not used. The sellers coulda crapped all over their markers do you want some thing that you have no idea where its been?

[TheUsualSuspect]

You never want to take off your back plate and find a dog turd instead of internals..

[professor_josh]

I'm sure people just love taking ****s in $700+ pieces of equiptment :eyes:. I trust guys with pics and feedback. And Andrew go study for your damn exams!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[STO Balla 22]

I'm almost positive that Speeds are heavier than 2k2's, and most of that weight is in the back, where your tank and loader are also. I'm pretty sure they're taller too, and they're definitely wider.

I don't get it, you wanted us to make your decision, and even though a large majority of people are voting for the 2k2, you're still undecided. You said you're a front, and the Speed is definitely a bigger, heavier gun. You're not sure if you like the 90* frame, but you currently own a gun with a 45* frame. Why take a chance on getting something you might not like?

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22
I'm almost positive that Speeds are heavier than 2k2's, and most of that weight is in the back, where your tank and loader are also. I'm pretty sure they're taller too, and they're definitely wider.

I don't get it, you wanted us to make your decision, and even though a large majority of people are voting for the 2k2, you're still undecided. You said you're a front, and the Speed is definitely a bigger, heavier gun. You're not sure if you like the 90* frame, but you currently own a gun with a 45* frame. Why take a chance on getting something you might not like?
Good point... 2k2.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Watch this, I can change his mind using only one word..... Angel


Now, when I snap my fingers *snap* 2k2

[professor_josh]

Holy ****, I never knew you could get a used DM4 for 800, that's now an option too!! 1,000 canadian is my limit.

[Mr Murderdoll89]

get the timmy...fast,light and accurate.

[Downfall08]

Originally posted by professor_josh
Holy ****, I never knew you could get a used DM4 for 800, that's now an option too!! 1,000 canadian is my limit.
do that. I would take a DM4 over a 2k2 unless that 2k2 was upped beyond belief

[STO Balla 22]

Holy ****, I never knew you could get a used DM4 for 800, that's now an option too!! 1,000 canadian is my limit.
Yup, that's why I suggested it. DM4's are obviously taller, but weigh about the same as a 2k2. They also have effeciency problems, but that shouldn't be much of an issue unless you have to pay a lot for air at your field. Besides that, it's really preference. I like the feel of DM4's almost as much as I like the feel of Timmies. Unless air efficiency is a big deal to you, a DM4 would be a good choice.

[professor_josh]

I'm getting the dm4 and then a bolt to fix the effeciency, then slowly upping it, starting with mushashi.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Our air is cheap Josh, We should get a scuba soon anyway.

[penguins_r_kewl]

Originally posted by xXniTemAreXx


LOL! Timmys are not long or tall at all.

Haha, all Timmys are long, and 2k2 Timmys are tall and theres like 5 inches between the reg and the trigger frame.

[Bigshot]

Originally posted by cutomcocker1
gen. 2 freestyle
with HE bolt. You don't need anything else.

[xXniTemAreXx]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl


Haha, all Timmys are long, and 2k2 Timmys are tall and theres like 5 inches between the reg and the trigger frame.

Theres like an inch... not even.. your speed is much bigger then any other timmy, just admit it.

[professor_josh]

It doesn't matter anyways, I'm getting a used DM4 or maybe a brand new shocker from my local shop, I just have to think about it. The only reason I want the shocker is because it's smaller, lighter, and brand new.

[TheUsualSuspect]

Slap a V2 ripper on that sucker and it'll rip. (Hence the name of the frame)

[professor_josh]

Originally posted by TheUsualSuspect
Slap a V2 ripper on that sucker and it'll rip. (Hence the name of the frame)
What are you talking about?

[TheUsualSuspect]

Oh, dear, god..

[wablez]

http://img195.exs.cx/img195/4513/timmy4su.jpg

TIMMAY!

(get the used intimidator)

[MA_paintballer]

Originally posted by professor_josh

What are you talking about?
It's a 90* frame for shockers, very similar to the angels space frame (takes the same grips as a matter of fact.)

[TheUsualSuspect]

Damn does it rip.