Favorite discontinued gun?

[penguins_r_kewl]

Sorry, guns with newer versions of it don't count.

[DirtMcgirt]

viking, obvs.

[FrOnTmAn4LiFe]

Viking for sure

[penguins_r_kewl]

Vikings are awesome guns.

I LOVE Rainmakers, I might be selling my Omen and buying one soon, I need some money.

[pbplayer_1357]

Vikings, I just bought one.

[Sam#27]

Xmags, then vikings

[Teamcompound]

The Matrix. It was just discontinued because the the DM's and the protos right?

[Canadia_PBaller]

Vikings...

[|GB|]

X-mag.

[paintballer42o]

Rainmakers, Xmags...

[Caleb98]

X-mags, vikings

[darktrooper5]

Originally posted by Canadia_PBaller
Vikings... 0

and then xmags

[xXniTemAreXx]

x-mag.

[OWNAGE]

X-Mag and AMG

[cocker kid 2k2]

Angel LCD.

[Juvenile]

All these guns blow.

:tup:

[robdamanii]

Originally posted by Juvenile
All these guns blow.

:tup:

Just because it's not a timmy.

And I think they blow (with the exception of the dark) too, but hey...

;)

[Samrog777]

viking.

I like xmags too though.

[Kingman27]

Originally posted by robdamanii


Just because it's not a timmy.

And I think they blow (with the exception of the dark) too, but hey...

;)
No, because Originally posted by Juvenile
All these guns blow.

:tup:

Juvey doesn't only like Timmies..He loves his DMFizzle..yummy..

Only gun in this thread that remotely interests me is the Viking, but I've never shot one, so what do I know..Mags, psh

And Rob, what at all does a Dark Timmy have over any other? hm?hmm?hmmm?

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by robdamanii


Just because it's not a timmy.

And I think they blow (with the exception of the dark) too, but hey...

;) DMFizzle at my side to shoot the faces of haters, as well.

And yep, Darks are Godly. I love more expensive, heavier, uglier, Aliases w/ crappy and pointless "upgrades" :tup:

You know I still love you anyway, Rob.

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by Juvenile
All these guns blow.

:tup:



you shoot a 1500 spyder.

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by DirtMcgirt




you shoot a 1500 spyder. Go tell that to the other thousands of sick ballers who shoot them, and own with them.

What do you shoot? A speed w/ ramper and JB weld eyes? Hmmm...

Just because they Timmy and Spyder have similar styles in body doesn't make them the same. Internally they are not the same, though a Spyder could be converted to the level of a classic Timmy w/ a lot of work.

So it's a $1500 Spyder? Good theory there, considering it looks nothing like a Spyder, shoots nothing like a Spyder, and feels nothing like a Spyder.

[darktrooper5]

That was rough Dirt, but funny nontheless.:propellr:

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by darktrooper5
That was rough Dirt, but funny nontheless.:propellr: Not really rough at all, I shoot two guns that combined cost more than his life.

[Kingman27]

Omfg, I hate when people say Timmies are like Spyders. The ABSOFRICKINLUTELY aren't. Sure, the body style may be SORT OF ALMOST showing a SMALL relation..but internally, hell friggen no.

Die newbs.

[darktrooper5]

Lets not turn this into a flame war. I've got no issues with timmies or any other guns mentioned. You did say that the gun I own "blows". Unless I missunderstood your words.

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by darktrooper5
Lets not turn this into a flame war. I've got no issues with timmies or any other guns mentioned. You did say that the gun I own "blows". Unless I missunderstood your intentions. Yes I do not like the way X-mags or Vikings shoot at all, and they LOOK awful too.

[darktrooper5]

Looks can be decieving and they aren't everything. The Classic and shocktech timmies aren't winning any beauty pagents in my book either.

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by Juvenile
Go tell that to the other thousands of sick ballers who shoot them, and own with them.

What do you shoot? A speed w/ ramper and JB weld eyes? Hmmm...

Just because they Timmy and Spyder have similar styles in body doesn't make them the same. Internally they are not the same, though a Spyder could be converted to the level of a classic Timmy w/ a lot of work.

So it's a $1500 Spyder? Good theory there, considering it looks nothing like a Spyder, shoots nothing like a Spyder, and feels nothing like a Spyder.


hahahaha


im drunk so bare with me.

i shoot my speed because im a poor college student that still wants to practice every weekend. Don't try to turn this into a locker room "my weeny is bigger!!!" contest.

I've owned a few Timmys, and hell I built a GZ from scratch. they're not that great. You don't get what you pay for. Sure, they're fast but they're also poorly manufactured. They just flat out feel CHEAP.

i don't care if thousands of "sick ballers" (you dweeb) shoot them. millions of people buy limp bizkit albums. does that make them a good band? No. The majority isn't always right.
The player makes the gun juvey. you should know that. People can "own" with any gun.

and hey, bob long made the first timmy out of what?

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by DirtMcgirt



hahahaha


im drunk so bare with me.

i shoot my speed because im a poor college student that still wants to practice every weekend. Don't try to turn this into a locker room "my weeny is bigger!!!" contest.

I've owned a few Timmys, and hell I built a GZ from scratch. they're not that great. You don't get what you pay for. Sure, they're fast but they're also poorly manufactured. They just flat out feel CHEAP.

i don't care if thousands of "sick ballers" (you dweeb) shoot them. millions of people buy limp bizkit albums. does that make them a good band? No. The majority isn't always right.
The player makes the gun juvey. you should know that. People can "own" with any gun.

and hey, bob long made the first timmy out of what? That's all good and dandy, but I said go TELL the thousands that shoot Timmys that they're just $1500 Spyders. I will shoot whatever the hell I want and whatever feels good. When you buy a high-end Timmy, yes they are great. And when you buy at wholesale, they're even greater. My Abomb's sick as hell, and it's damn sure not feelin' "cheap."

[DirtMcgirt]

http://www.flagpull.com/AKA/pinkhighlanderviking2.jpg



god vikings are hideous....

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by Juvenile
That's all good and dandy, but I said go TELL the thousands that shoot Timmys that they're just $1500 Spyders. I will shoot whatever the hell I want and whatever feels good. When you buy a high-end Timmy, yes they are great. And when you buy at wholesale, they're even greater. My Abomb's sick as hell, and it's damn sure not feelin' "cheap."


i'd love to. line them up for me.

Timmys are fast markers, but you do NOT get what you pay for in terms of performance.


and for the love of god, stop saying "sick"

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by DirtMcgirt
http://www.flagpull.com/AKA/pinkhighlanderviking2.jpg



god vikings are hideous.... That IS ugly. They're all boxy with the same type of attempts at milling = weak.

Pink is hot though.

[darktrooper5]

Come on guys, that's enough. Can't we even have an intelligent conversation without saying"this blows"or "that sucks"

Timmies=good
Vikings=good

[DirtMcgirt]

well hey, even if it is ugly, who cares?


i love how image oriented paintball is. id shoot a giant turd if it could rip a constant stream of 20 BPS and get 2000 shots off a fill.

[penguins_r_kewl]

Highlander :love:.

If you don't think that looks good you don't diserve to play paintball. That includes you Juvenile.

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by penguins_r_kewl
Highlander :love:.

If you don't think that looks good you don't diserve to play paintball. That includes you Juvenile. Good work deciding who can play paintball.

:tup:

[darktrooper5]

Originally posted by Juvenile
Good work deciding who can play paintball.

:tup:

What a :censored:
Screw it, tear yourselfs apart over stupid S*@#!

[penguins_r_kewl]

Originally posted by Juvenile
Good work deciding who can play paintball.

:tup:

I didn't say you couldn't play paintball, you just don't diserve to.

[DirtMcgirt]

if i was sober i wouldn't have freaked out.

IMAGE IS EVERYTHING.


back on topic



i miss PGPs...

[Avery_mac]

Originally posted by Juvenile
All these guns blow.

:tup:

you blow penar

vikings are awsome

[DirtMcgirt]

and speaking of PGPs, some guy on PBN turned one into an ebladed cocker.

[darktrooper5]

PGP's are good little guns actually. If I had the extra $I'd buy one.

Dirt his name is paintballer187, he's got about 10 pages full of feedback. He sold me an orry for 250 and then paid for the broken cupseal! Great guy.

Sorry guys, its almost 2am by me, I'm sleepy.:sleep:

[RandyTheNiceBum]

A whole lot of different pumps...

[ta2maki]

Originally posted by Juvenile
All these guns blow.

:tup:


Actually, ALL guns blow. how else would they fire a paintball?

[Sam#27]

surprisingly, that isnt funny.
I would rather have an Xmag or a Viking over a timmy any day. Their level of "sickness" is unmatched by that of any timmy.

[Menohl]

I guess i'm going to go old school here and go way back, past all these speedball guns to a gun that was made in the 80's...

Tippmann SMG-60

http://www.paintballmuseum.org/museum/Tippmann%20Pneumatics/SMG-60/nice%20SMG-60%201a.JPG

[slushii]

I < 3 Juvy. He can come off as an arse, but please excuse him, he just has some strong views which you may not agree with. :P

I liked the IR3's

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by Avery_mac


you blow penar Nice BKO.

:tdown:

[Caleb98]

Juvy, Gran dream...do I need to seperate you kids?

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by Juvenile
Nice BKO.

:tdown:



some people can't afford a 1500 spyder or a diablo matrix with a nice mill job;)

it's not what you shoot, it's how you shoot it juvey. trust.

[DarkKnight1312]

Originally posted by Juvenile
Nice BKO.

:tdown:

ohhh.......so now people who dont have $2500 to buy two "sick" guns dont deserve to have an opinion. :rolleyes:

[darktrooper5]

You can have all the best gear in the world and still suck.

[DirtMcgirt]

Originally posted by darktrooper5
You can have all the best gear in the world and still suck.


word.

there are way too many 12 year olds running around with $1000+ setups

[STO Balla 22]

you blow penar

vikings are awsome


I used to think Vikings were pretty nice, except for their weight and looks. But then I was out at the field today, and one of my friend's Vikings just...exploded. People were making fun of him asking how he could possibly break it, but somehow the Solenoid blew. He was already having problems with it before that, but I didn't get to the field until a few minutes before the solenoid blew.

He has been trying to sell it, but he can't find a buyer. Now it's broken.

:tdown:

And yes, he did take good care of that Viking.

[BunkerBuddy_666]

The armourtech mars lt wasent bad. it looked pretty cool actually.

[Downfall08]

I got a chance to shoot a vike this weekend and i was really disappointed. It definitely did not live up to all the hype.

I'd say x-mag fo sho

[PeYToN-SS]

X-Mags are very nice. Never shot a Viking, but I saw a sick Immortal Viking before.

[3PT]

Definitely a sovereign III. They never really did much, but they were a cocker competitor for a little bit.

[Juvenile]

Originally posted by DirtMcgirt



word.

there are way too many 12 year olds running around with $1000+ setups Very true. I happen to be 18 and play for a D. 2 PSP team so I hope you aren't making a jab at me, because I'm nothing short of an amazing front player w/ skills, but I do agree.

My skills demanded two very nice guns, and I love the way they shoot, and they're turned to fit my needs up front.

[slushii]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22


I used to think Vikings were pretty nice, except for their weight and looks. But then I was out at the field today, and one of my friend's Vikings just...exploded. People were making fun of him asking how he could possibly break it, but somehow the Solenoid blew. He was already having problems with it before that, but I didn't get to the field until a few minutes before the solenoid blew.

He has been trying to sell it, but he can't find a buyer. Now it's broken.

:tdown:

And yes, he did take good care of that Viking. No offence but you cant say vikes suck because of this. I've seen like 500,000 timmys break but I know they are still good guns. Vikes are reliable beasts, I give them that, 1 breaking out of like 10,000 should not make you say they suck.

[darktrooper5]

Originally posted by darktrooper5
You can have all the best gear in the world and still suck.

- not pointed at anyone, just a thought.

[MA_paintballer]

Originally posted by DarkKnight1312


ohhh.......so now people who dont have $2500 to buy two "sick" guns dont deserve to have an opinion. :rolleyes:
Unless they have experience or knowledge with/about them...not really.

[Menohl]

I just love how this thread seems to be worship over speedball guns...

Cause lord knows there was no paintball before speedball.

[comando345]

Vikings

[PeYToN-SS]

Originally posted by Menohl
I just love how this thread seems to be worship over speedball guns...

Cause lord knows there was no paintball before speedball.

The "Speedball" guns mentioned in this thread are better than any gun you would consider "woodsball".

[Downfall08]

Originally posted by Menohl
I just love how this thread seems to be worship over speedball guns...

Cause lord knows there was no paintball before speedball.
ur kidding, right?

[Canadia_PBaller]

Originally posted by slushii
No offence but you cant say vikes suck because of this. I've seen like 500,000 timmys break but I know they are still good guns. Vikes are reliable beasts, I give them that, 1 breaking out of like 10,000 should not make you say they suck.




W3rd

[Mr Murderdoll89]

viking and x-mags fo sho:agree:

[STO Balla 22]

No offence but you cant say vikes suck because of this. I've seen like 500,000 timmys break but I know they are still good guns. Vikes are reliable beasts, I give them that, 1 breaking out of like 10,000 should not make you say they suck.
Very true, but you have to understand the situation. I've seen Timmies break, but when I take a look at them I've found out that they haven't been cleaned and lubed properly. I baby my Timmy to death, and even after Xball practices and lots of games, it still hasn't gone down on me. Brady is the same way with his Viking. He does everything he needs to to maintain it, but all of a sudden it just...went bad. I think Vikings are good guns, but I can't stand how everyone thinks that they're the holy grail of paintball. Sure, they're fast and efficient, but you can say the same thing for other guns. AKA has good customer service, but so does BLAST, Dye, Planet Eclipse, WDP, and other companies. Vikings are significantly heavier than most high end guns, and their looks are definitely subpar. If that doesn't bother you, that's fine. But it does bother me, and it bothers Brady that he has a heavy gun that looks bad in his opinion.

They're great guns, but they're not something to sell your soul for.

BTW - I never said they suck, and I never will say they suck. Let's make sure we keep that straight.

[darktrooper5]

I agree with STO, I've seen a few probs with Vikings, every gun has something wrong with it. Lots of the problems are user-induced on most guns. If you don't know how to, don't try to fix it. Using a gun for a day and then throwing in your bag for 6 weeks without cleaning is a classic symptom. I see it all the time. To me at least its vice-versa, I hear people talk about timmys where I am like they were the "Holy Grail"

[slushii]

Originally posted by STO Balla 22

Very true, but you have to understand the situation. I've seen Timmies break, but when I take a look at them I've found out that they haven't been cleaned and lubed properly. I baby my Timmy to death, and even after Xball practices and lots of games, it still hasn't gone down on me. Brady is the same way with his Viking. He does everything he needs to to maintain it, but all of a sudden it just...went bad. I think Vikings are good guns, but I can't stand how everyone thinks that they're the holy grail of paintball. Sure, they're fast and efficient, but you can say the same thing for other guns. AKA has good customer service, but so does BLAST, Dye, Planet Eclipse, WDP, and other companies. Vikings are significantly heavier than most high end guns, and their looks are definitely subpar. If that doesn't bother you, that's fine. But it does bother me, and it bothers Brady that he has a heavy gun that looks bad in his opinion.

They're great guns, but they're not something to sell your soul for.

BTW - I never said they suck, and I never will say they suck. Let's make sure we keep that straight. I don't like vikes at all.(for the reasons you stated) and every single one I've shot I was not impressed with. I was simply saying that you could not say vikes sucked cuz one broke.

[miotch]

ok back to the subject.

i miss VM-68s.. sweet sweet markers.. and if you ran out of paint, you could just club your opponent with this beast. The marker alone weighed close to 6 pounds.

I miss the alley cat.. I dont miss the alley cat 2, cuz i just got one today! It was a ICD marker made specifically for NPS , they have a kool cat milled intothe gun body.


The .68 special.. Tippman's semi that required a SIPHON (not anti-siphon) tank, it ran on liquid c02

The AGD Sidearm.. Soo sweet, a semi auto pistol, 12 gram powered , but it was all in a tight little mag package.

The hammer and hammer 2 pump guns.. The innovative velocity adjustment located inside the bolt was too sweet, and only required a phillips head screw driver.
I still own my hammer2 pump, its a workhorse, my original gun over 12 years old and still works like a champ.
i think most of all , i miss markers being made like the hammer series.

[darktrooper5]

you can buy sydarms from agd today on their site.

[miotch]

really? Wow.. they were discontinued back in 98(ish) Thats awesome.. Either that or my supplier lied to me.. :(

[PeYToN-SS]

Originally posted by miotch
really? Wow.. they were discontinued back in 98(ish) Thats awesome.. Either that or my supplier lied to me.. :(


They're for sale, but very expensive.

[miotch]

AH ha! I'm not crazy really..
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=143194&highlight=sidearm

It seems they were brought back recently! (well if you call 8 months ago recently) get one while you can.. i dont have the 425 clams to burn on one.

[Menohl]

Originally posted by miotch
ok back to the subject.

The .68 special.. Tippman's semi that required a SIPHON (not anti-siphon) tank, it ran on liquid c02



I still have mine, Serial number #4321 Still works like a champ too!!!

http://members.cox.net/happykook/68-Special-Display.jpg

And I got the 20oz Siphon tank to prove it!

http://members.cox.net/happykook/Siphon_Tank.jpg

[comando345]

Something about those old tippmanns is just bad ***.

[MA_paintballer]

Originally posted by comando345
Something about those old tippmanns is just bad ***.
That something is the fact that they use siphoned co2.

[miotch]

Not to mention when they fired in warm weather the volume of liquid c02 comming out the barrel made for an impressive muzzle flash

[Shimboodo]

Originally posted by DirtMcgirt

millions of people buy limp bizkit albums. does that make them a good band? No. The majority isn't always right.

people still buy limp bizkit albums?! i thought they were dead, buried, and had their graves pissed on.


My favorite discontinued marker is the Tippman SL-68 II pump. Just got it today in a prize thingy at the senario i was at.

[roach8872]

I would kill to own a milled viking with tadao or equalizer board or any aftermarket one for that matter... omgggggg

[Menohl]

Originally posted by Shimboodo


people still buy limp bizkit albums?! i thought they were dead, buried, and had their graves pissed on.


My favorite discontinued marker is the Tippman SL-68 II pump. Just got it today in a prize thingy at the senario i was at.

Another Great marker, I have one of those as well SN#0185

There are 2 versions of the SL-68 II, the early produced one's and the later produced one's...

The way to tell is the later produced one's had a safety built into the handgrip, and they have the anti-doublefeed. They early one's like mine, didn't have the safety, or the anti double feed.

By the way, if you want to improve the performance of that SL-68 II. Countypaintball.com still carry J&J Ceramic Barrels for them. They improve the performance of the pump drastically!

[kraftwerk]

Favorite discontinued semi:

Montneel Z1/Mega Z

Bulletproof, shot liquid so you could use it in any weather, and they looked cool too. (Like the 68 Special, you get those cool puffs of co2 every time you shot one). I've got 3 and am always on the lookout for more. :love:

Favorite discontinued pump:

Sterling. Parts are scarce, quality varied depending on when you got them, and they're British... but I still love'em. You barely ever see any, which is part of the appeal. I've seen more LAPCO pumps around lately than I have Sterlings. The only thing they needed was a ball detent, and you can still get them from Palmer's. (Honorable Mention to the AGD pump kit - even though the mag isn't discontinued. It's only downside besides the scarcity is the lack of an autotrigger).

[nerdcore]

xmag & amg lcd. currently looking for an amg, actually.