Last chance for my tippmann....

[tippmannjunky04]

Convince me why to keep my tippmann. I do like it, but I can't use it in tourney's (most likely b/c of RT).
I'm looking into a spyder imagine. ($108)
Then buying a new back for my dye ultralite so it will fit
($30-50?)
Then I have a hopper($0).
All is I will need is a t-board($70), and dye stickies(15?), and I will be pretty much set.
With all that it will be around $220-$240.
While if I get the e-bolt for my 98 custom, it will be around $200.

Convince me if you can.....

[Electroneurotic]

From what i have heard, the e-bolt is a great upgrade. My friend and his brother have both had imagines, and they both have their fare share of problems. I say the main thing to replace if you got an imagine is the bolt and the valve. Tippmann guns last a long time and give you very few headaches if properly maitained. I would stick with the tippmann just because of the experiance i have had so far with them.

[S.O.G]

Have you tried the pen spring and rubber band mod for your 98. get a double trigger and give it a try to see if you like it. It will save you a couple hundred bucks.

[jdolla]

between those two options, i'd definetly go for the e-bolt

in my experience, and the experience of many others, spyders are notoriously unreliable, although I have seem them work well

however, if you get the e-bolt, you will have significantly fewer problems, so you won't have to worry about fixing you gun in between games in the tourneys you refer to

[tippmannjunky04]

Hmm ok. Very interesting. S.O.G- I did the pen spring mod, but not the rubber band mod. Do you know where I can find this?
But yes, I want a very reliable gun. I just feel stupid buying the Response trigger, and now it's basically worthless.
I will take a look at the E-bolt. Then see what happens...But it's a lot of money for just one upgrade.

[localpaintball]

do they have an e-bolt for the a-5? because I want to be able to walk my trigger, but with my bolt as it is, I can't walk because the pull is pretty hard...

ps. i think you should stick with ur tippmann. they are high quality, and i have never seen anyone ever have a problem with their tippmann.

:cowboy:

[Electroneurotic]

The e-bolt makes a large change to the marker. Converting a blow back to an electroneumatic is a good jump. They do not have an e-bolt for the A-5, but they do have an e-grip.

[localpaintball]

They do not have an e-bolt for the A-5, but they do have an e-grip.

will I be able to walk with a double trigger and the e-grip? Because I want to stay tourney-legal...

thanks

:cowboy:

[Eladamri]

IMO, neither. If you are really serious about playing tournament ball then it is time to step up to the next lvl. Instead of spending $180 on the T-boarded Imagine you would be better off looking for a used BKO or Impulse on Ebay. I have seen used BKO's go for under $225 and used non vision Impulses go for $250.

I think its ridiculous to spend more on 1 upgrade for a marker than what the marker costs brand new. While the Imagine is a descent marker, if you are serious about tournaments then you will outgrow it fast. Finally I hate seeing someone trade one low end marker for another, if you are going to change markers you may as well try and buy a marker that will perform better than the one you own.

[tippmannjunky04]

yeah. Very true. The BKO (IMO) just looks ***, ughh. But an Impulse is more what I would look after.

[Kurama]

Get the Imagine. It's much cheaper than the ebolt, and is great. You'll only have problems with it if you don't lube/maintain it like almost every marker. It takes two seconds to pull a strip pin and lube it up. The imagine needs some at-home mods, to negate the poor manufacturing of Kingman, but they're pretty good when you do that.

Well, the sticky's don't work on the imagine. You need the spyder-design Sticky 03's which cost 22$, not 15. Well worth it though, I just picked some stickie 03's up and love em. I also suggest a T-switch or another 50g microswitch and I suggest you drill some trigger stops. Very worthwhile. You'll need to remove the bolt's venturi (fire + needlenose pliers) and polish the internals (same as a tippmann, just different places to polish. Read otters so you don't mess up)

Ottersccustoms.com has info on the spyder.

I have nothing against ebolted tippmanns, but they aren't as good as a T-boarded imagine for the price. Besides, the imagine will be cheaper if you sell your tippmann.

[tippmannjunky04]

yeah...Well actually I just saw the BKO, it looks pretty cool. I take that back saying it looked ***. But I noticed it doesn't have an air line, atleast in the pic. Must you buy one for the BKO?

[Eladamri]

Originally posted by tippmannjunky04
yeah. Very true. The BKO (IMO) just looks ***, ughh. But an Impulse is more what I would look after. When I decided to step up to an electro I looked at the BKO, Impulse, and B2k. I also didn't really care for the looks of the BKO and decided on a 2003 B2k. Unfortunatly the B2k seems to have a pretty descent resale value. I ended up finding an 03 vision Impulse with all the Ups on it that I wanted on Ebay for $350 and bought that. If I were to do it again I would get one without vision because the stock vision system isn't all that great, and now I am considering dropping a WAS board in mine so I spent an extra $100 on a subpar vision system I will be replacing. Find someone that will let you shoot an Impulse with a magnetic trigger and try it out for yourself. I really think the used ones are worth the money.

[E r y k]

im going to go w/ Eladamri here...

why go from blowback to blowback?, sure they make look ugly, but IMO performance> looks. then again, it may be different for you.

[Electroneurotic]

Originally posted by localpaintball


will I be able to walk with a double trigger and the e-grip? Because I want to stay tourney-legal...

thanks

:cowboy:

If you buy the jcs duel trigger you should be able to walk it.

[tippmannjunky04]

Originally posted by E r y k
im going to go w/ Eladamri here...

why go from blowback to blowback?, sure they make look ugly, but IMO performance> looks. then again, it may be different for you.

Actually, now that I like at it more, it's doesn't seem to look too bad. And for $280, sounds like a hell of a deal. The problem is, all my friends have low-end guns like me(tippmann, and spyders) and my other friends have (timmy's, auto-cockers, and smart parts). So I may have to buy without shooting.

[The Arsonist]

How about this...

If you decide to sell, Shoot me a PM...

Otherwise, I would stick with the tippy.. Pull out the RT, and call it a day... Add a good bolt, lighter hammer, and a regulator/x-chamber and your all set.... Also, a good 8" barrel would be nice...

[tippmannjunky04]

Originally posted by The Arsonist
How about this...

If you decide to sell, Shoot me a PM...

Otherwise, I would stick with the tippy.. Pull out the RT, and call it a day... Add a good bolt, lighter hammer, and a regulator/x-chamber and your all set.... Also, a good 8" barrel would be nice...

Alrighty.

[The Arsonist]

I mean come on man... Say your playing speedball, and decide to do a big ol dive, and you smash face first into the ground... Do you expect a spyder to work??? You can run over a tippmann with a truck, and it would still work... Think about it that way... :D

[Eladamri]

Originally posted by The Arsonist
I mean come on man... Say your playing speedball, and decide to do a big ol dive, and you smash face first into the ground... Do you expect a spyder to work??? You can run over a tippmann with a truck, and it would still work... Think about it that way... :D

Who cares if a spyder will work? He's thinking about moving up to the BKO or Impulse. ;)

[Kurama]

To the guy about impys- Well, for 350$, you really didn't pay more than 25$ or so than what non-visions go for. If he doesnt want to WAS it the second he buys it, the vision will raise the bps cap to 20 and give an eye. I really don't see the point in WAS since I've never chopped with vision and 20bps is a cap that's useless to pass. Well, I'm going to get WAS anyways :rolleyes:. Still, the smartparts vision is great if he gets a deal on it.

Anyways, an impulse b2k or bko are good choices. I'd personally suggest a 2005 bko when they come out or a used vision imp.

As for durability, my friend supermanned on a hyperball field, while getting shot by two timmy-toting backmen. He slammed his shoulder into the bunker and his cocker went flying and bounced off the bunker near his. He sprinted, got it, and it worked fine. Spyders are durable too. Really, there's no real way to break a marker without a large degree of human error, noticed or not. Unless you plan to get your marker ran over by a truck, which I'm sure a spyder could also last, you won't ever need a tippmann. Hype. Besides, speedball/airball has almost no wear on the marker other than paint spray. BE is the only exception, they suck.

[Eladamri]

Well the Was board has better eyes and checks the trigger more, those are the main selling points for me at least. Also I have seen 03 non vision Impulses go for $250 on ebay, I know someone who got one for $225. I just don't think the Stock vision system is worth the money unless you always play with bright colored paint and on sunny days.