Cocker, Impy, or Bushy

[Lzyboy023]

I have $350 and im buying an used marker. I have gotten these offers:

2k4 Impulse with low rise $350
04 prostock with supafly bolt $275
b2k3 with a 68 4500 tank $350

I play front, but our speedball course is in a woods which is far away from anyones house. Im looking for a gun that has the recoil of a spyder of lower, Easy to maintain (not confusing) Accurate at about 75 feet or less with a new barrel, and a pretty good speed, even if i have to upgrade. I am going with the b2k3 right now, because i will be able to play as soon as i get it and i dont need to buy a tank. But at my local paintball shop, they dont sell bushys because theyre "very tempermental" I used to have a tippmann, and i could not play good with it because it had so much recoil with the response trigger.

[comando345]

Try searching, this topic has been posted at least a dozen times.

[Phat Phill]

comes with a tank +++++ go with the b2k3

[Teamcompound]

They are not tempermental. They are crap, buy SP.

[pbdan9190]

The b2k will be fast, light, easy to maintain, the deal you're getting comes with a tank, and if anything does go wrong call ICD and they will be more then happy to help you out.

[|GB|]

B2K3 just because it comes with a tank.

[MA_paintballer]

Holy seach batman!

[ShockerKid82]

unless you dotn have a tank egt the imp

[Everlight389]

link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16048&item=7130719813&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

$200? Wow... and these guns are acutally decent.

[Hyperballin]

The imps, the best in my opinon i have shot all the guns listed. but the best deal up there is the bushy cuz of the tank. What ever gun u get ur gonna like JUST BECAUSE ITS YOURS.. ha

[pcgmrsprts]

If you already have HPA get the imp, if not get the b2k3 + tank.

[The Arsonist]

Get a tippmann, and dont use an RT... Get a titanium light hammer, and your good to go.. No more recoil...:D

[can'tthink of1]

Originally posted by The Arsonist
Get a tippmann, and dont use an RT... Get a titanium light hammer, and your good to go.. No more recoil...:D

No.

Get the bushy, Sp is crap, cockers are meh... Bushy all the way.

[csreymann]

yeah, if you got 350 bucks, don't go a tippmann.

[Everlight389]

Originally posted by The Arsonist
Get a tippmann, and dont use an RT... Get a titanium light hammer, and your good to go.. No more recoil...:D

If he has that much money to spend initially, why would he buy a tippmann?

[The Arsonist]

Originally posted by Everlight389


If he has that much money to spend initially, why would he buy a tippmann?

Because Tippmanns Dont Fail... ;)

[Everlight389]

Originally posted by The Arsonist


Because Tippmanns Dont Fail... ;)

Unfortunately thats the only thing they do well :rolleyes:

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Originally posted by can'tthink of1


No.

Get the bushy, Sp is crap, cockers are meh... Bushy all the way. How is SP crap?

[MA_paintballer]

Originally posted by can'tthink of1


No.

Get the bushy, Sp is crap, cockers are meh... Bushy all the way.

Name one completely valid way ICD has SP....and don't you dare say quality control. Please, tell me how many sucessful teams use SP products, and how many use ICD?

[can'tthink of1]

Wow, what little fanboys :)

What teams use doesn't matter, hell Aval. is gonna start using the NME or whatever.

SP, I will dare to say quality control, cause thats a valid point, I've messed around with a shocker and own an imp, I know.

SP neglects to put any "upgrade" parts on their markers stock, forcing you to pay more if you want competative performance. Imps could have come stock with a lpr, but noooo, they have shootdown issues, and fsdo, even with a tapeworm, you get shootdown at some higher rates of fire where say a b2k3 wouldn't have any problem.

Maxxy's are some of the most problematic regs, need nearly constant maintanence, and blow orings and such.

Also, they don't care how the guns come stock, the reg could be up to 500psi when it comes to you, but they don't care. People constantly have to send back shockers back to SP for teching because some problems even stump some of the best techs at shops.

[professor_josh]

*COUGH*naughtydogsfreestyle*COUGH*.:rolleyes:

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Originally posted by can'tthink of1
Wow, what little fanboys :)

What teams use doesn't matter, hell Aval. is gonna start using the NME or whatever.

SP, I will dare to say quality control, cause thats a valid point, I've messed around with a shocker and own an imp, I know.

SP neglects to put any "upgrade" parts on their markers stock, forcing you to pay more if you want competative performance. Imps could have come stock with a lpr, but noooo, they have shootdown issues, and fsdo, even with a tapeworm, you get shootdown at some higher rates of fire where say a b2k3 wouldn't have any problem.

Maxxy's are some of the most problematic regs, need nearly constant maintanence, and blow orings and such.

Also, they don't care how the guns come stock, the reg could be up to 500psi when it comes to you, but they don't care. People constantly have to send back shockers back to SP for teching because some problems even stump some of the best techs at shops. We are fan boys because we asked you to back up your brainless claim? Sorry for using logic.

I've never had an issue with FSDO as I properly maintain my marker, and the same goes with the maxy. I’ve never blown an O-ring, and I don’t know where these issues you are talking about come from. It's one of the best out there, and if you have friends that can't take care of their stuff, they don't deserve to use it. You are using hearsay and in general assuming how the people at SP are on no basis at all. I'd say you are flat out lying, but some kid who lies a lot would probably come in here and get mad at me for comparing you to him.

[coolrazer]

Originally posted by MA_paintballer
Please, tell me how many sucessful teams use SP products, and how many use ICD?

SP - Dynasty
ICD - Naughty Dogs


Anyway, get a used mag. It seems perfect for what you want. A fast gun for the woods.

[Lzyboy023]

sure, tippmans are very reliable, but when you get on the field, they play like crap, if anyone is deciding between a tippy and a spydr, get a spyder, theyre better guns, and theres a new rocking trigger for them that is supposedly fast. The reason i sold my tippman is because in the momentum of the game it was not there for me. I dont have a tank, so i think im gonna go with the bushy, but why are they so unpopular? I look in magazines, and i can barely find them. What makes them so bad??

[Bigshot]

lzyboy don't post.

Get the bushy. It is better stock than a stock IMP. i am to lazy to dig up the list why. post in icd and you will find.

[mopo-85]

Originally posted by The Arsonist


Because Tippmanns Dont Fail... ;)

I was forced to use one today b/c my cocker decided to be a ******* and not work. (okay so maybe I dident read the manual that came with my bomb 3 way that sais they work in revers order so I need to put the hoses in revers order and thats why) so I had to use a 98 c and it was the worst expierience of my life.

[PBplaya99]

you can benchpress a tippman........lol.......get the b2k

[comando345]

A Model 98 weighs 2.9 pounds, so unless you are anemic, it isn't heavy. Run regulated nitro through a tippmann some time, see what happens.

[Dansport4600]

It really gets to me when SP fanboys defend their products by saying "Buu, Buttt, more teams use it so it must be better!!!111!1"

[MA_paintballer]

Originally posted by coolrazer


SP - Dynasty/Philly AA/Ton Tons (succesful in Europe)/Detroit Strange
ICD - Naughty Dogs (also have a timmy)

Fixed.

Originally posted by Dansport4600
It really gets to me when SP fanboys defend their products by saying "Buu, Buttt, more teams use it so it must be better!!!111!1"
What do you shoot? I love how people can't grasp the fact that SP turns out two (Nerves are ****, I'll give you that much) quality markers for under a grand. No matter how much you deny it, and whine, and ***** and moan, Shockers and pulses don't suck if you're not a complete moron.

[Everlight389]

http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=271850

^ Impluse vs Bushmaster

Both are fairly good, the aftermarket Imps are better than the Smart Parts ones. Bushmasters are good as well, but Smart Parts is a much larger company and has better support in the Eastern USA.

If your West Coast, stores generally carry ICD products, but anyone far away from Idaho may have trouble getting them fixed and or matienenced by a technician (Not saying that everyone needs their gun fixed often, but it does happen). Consider if it breaks that it will need to be shipped back and forth to have it fixed, if that matters to you.

Now that ICD is part of NPS, things will change and their company will grow and their products will become more common and have better support. With that being said, it's your choice. I personally don't like either of them much, but medium end electros can be made to work well.

[Dansport4600]

Originally posted by MA_paintballer


Fixed.


What do you shoot? I love how people can't grasp the fact that SP turns out two (Nerves are ****, I'll give you that much) quality markers for under a grand. No matter how much you deny it, and whine, and ***** and moan, Shockers and pulses don't suck if you're not a complete moron.

Quality??? Don't even get me started on SP's quality.

For starters, the shocker is an accident waiting to happen. Oh sure its all nice and dandy when you buy it but (without proper upgrades) it will break down on you. I have seen this all too often and I know other people have to.

The Impulse's design has not changed in a while. Its a bulky outdated gun that needs upgrades from the start to get it running well. SP shouldn't have to suck the money out of its customers for not putting in mandatory parts for the gun (ie. LPR, decent trigger etc).

[Woods Sniper]

MA, Russian Legion also uses Freestyles, but who cares? Is he asking about Freestyles? NO! Is he asking about Shockers? NO! Almost all of the pro teams you mentioned use these guns, so it's totally irrelavent. Stop talking about these companies higher end guns and talk about the guns that this fellows looking at... the bushy and the imp.

Get the Bushy.

[Bigshot]

Originally posted by Bigshot
Get the bushy. It is better stock than a stock IMP. i am to lazy to dig up the list why. post in icd and you will find.

[can'tthink of1]

Originally posted by No_DAMN_NAMES
We are fan boys because we asked you to back up your brainless claim? Sorry for using logic.

I've never had an issue with FSDO as I properly maintain my marker, and the same goes with the maxy. I’ve never blown an O-ring, and I don’t know where these issues you are talking about come from. It's one of the best out there, and if you have friends that can't take care of their stuff, they don't deserve to use it. You are using hearsay and in general assuming how the people at SP are on no basis at all. I'd say you are flat out lying, but some kid who lies a lot would probably come in here and get mad at me for comparing you to him.

I've seen plenty of imps have fsdo and shootdown when shooting fast. Imps are bigger and heavier than bushies, and stock are crap beyond belief. Bushy's are that much better stock, use a better eye system with better logic, and have a lpr stock, have a very nice and adjustable trigger stock, they also are faster than you can pull stock.

Don't make this personsonal dude, I'm not in the mood.

[Lzyboy023]

its gold, black custom trigger frame, black custom 4' deliron bolt,custom pin, all new internals,lighting drop with on/off, 13.5 cp 2 piece barrel, new feed neck, custom cut body plate in gold (not paint),silinoid, custom back cap, custom front block, blue macro line, 68/45 tank blue cover.


Hes sellin it for 350
And its a B2k
Should i get it?

[Bigshot]

Yes dude thats a deal like no other. A new stock B2k3/4 costs about that much. With all that stuff :tup:

[Teamcompound]

Originally posted by Dansport4600


Quality??? Don't even get me started on SP's quality. I know, its pretty good

For starters, the shocker is an accident waiting to happen. Oh sure its all nice and dandy when you buy it but (without proper upgrades) it will break down on you. I have seen this all too often and I know other people have to.

The Impulse's design has not changed in a while.It doesn't need changed Its a bulky outdated gun that needs upgrades from the start to get it running well. SP shouldn't have to suck the money out of its customers for not putting in mandatory parts for the gun (ie. LPR, decent trigger etc).

[Dansport4600]

^^^ wow, you sure showed me. :rolleyes:


Care to back that up with any reason?

[gabsteriii]

this is irrelevant but im wondering if i should buy a smart parts vision impulse or a 04 cocker vertical feed with an eblade please help me im confused bioth of the the guns are super sexy but i cant buy tem both!!!!!

[Bigshot]

B2K5. End of story.

[Everlight389]

Originally posted by gabsteriii
this is irrelevant but im wondering if i should buy a smart parts vision impulse or a 04 cocker vertical feed with an eblade please help me im confused bioth of the the guns are super sexy but i cant buy tem both!!!!!

04 Eblade

[Lzyboy023]

its gold, black custom trigger frame, black custom 4' deliron bolt,custom pin, all new internals,lighting drop with on/off, 13.5 cp 2 piece barrel, new feed neck, custom cut body plate in gold (not paint),silinoid, custom back cap, custom front block, blue macro line, 68/45 tank blue cover.


k say i buy the bushy, will i get a easy 15bps? if so, should i get the halo b. egg, or empire reloader b??? Also, does the bushy have any bounce??

[Bigshot]

you wil have to work to get it but if you want you can get a 26g trigger switch. Halo is worth it. or get the Reloader b. No bounce.

[Lzyboy023]

if i bought all of this stuff new how much would it cost??? not including the tank

[Bigshot]

go to the icd forums with that. they will know.

[Lzyboy023]

I think as of now im gonna get the bushy, sell it, then ill get a used timmy