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Lord Delta
02-18-2005, 03:33 PM
A real simple question...

Is the bolt removable, say during a game? Or do you have to take it back to your car and disassemble it? In case you break paint.

ikey
02-18-2005, 04:59 PM
nope you cannot take this gun apart on the feild.

Dr J
02-18-2005, 10:04 PM
yeah... you could take it apart on the field, but the ref would call you out in a tourny cause you had tools on the field.

It is not possible to take out the bolt in a game.

jedunnigan
02-19-2005, 06:28 AM
To do a simple dissasembly of the gun you have to take off the grip frame, oershell, pull out a few air tubes....and then you can unscrew the bolt from the body.

egs21eric
02-19-2005, 08:28 AM
That is why almost all spool valve guns have good eyes

BigTarget04
02-19-2005, 08:34 AM
Ok I dont want to be off topic or anything, but isnt the ion an elctropneumatic (sp?) blow forward, not a spool valve?

Dr J
02-19-2005, 10:27 AM
It's kinda both...

It depends on which working definition of "spool valve" you are using.

For the time being... I'll refer to it as a blow forward spool valve, until there's an industry standard.

RiceBurner923
02-19-2005, 10:45 AM
a little off topic, but whats the true defenition of electropneumatic?

Dr J
02-19-2005, 11:07 AM
being of or related to both electronic operations and pnuematic systems.

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electronic - If you can't figure this out... then turn of the monitor and go read a good book.

pnuematic - using a gas operation, air assisted... example

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An AEG air soft gun with batteries and an electronic motor is electronic.

A Green Gas powered air soft gun that uses the compressed green gas to cycle is pnuematic.

A paintball gun like the Ion or Impulse (etc.) uses electricity (electro...) to control the cycling operations of the pressureized air that propels the ball and cycles the marker (...pnuematic)


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Spool Valve - a valve (tool/machine/component that controls the flow of a fluid) that has a spool doing the controling.

- Loosley this includes solenoids and 3-ways from 'cockers because there is a spool inside the valves.

- Very loosley this could even include every paintball gun and regulators etc.

- But the most common working definition requires that air operates the valve, wich allows air passageways to open or close.


note - The Ion seems to fit even into the stricter catagory, although it doesn' operating quite like other "spool valve guns".

Note - The Impulse, nerve, timmy, etc. are not spool valve guns because the valve is not opened directly by pnuematic energy. The pnuematic energy is first used to accelerat a hammer which is now kinetic energy, which then strikes the pin valve.


Blow forward - This is a gun that uses the same burst of air to move the bolt forward as it does to push the ball.



I hope that helps to clear things up.

RiceBurner923
02-19-2005, 11:18 AM
thanks

milkydude8
02-19-2005, 01:56 PM
The Ion isn't really field strip-able.. You must take the trigger frame off before being able to take off the polymer cover and then you'll be able to get into the gun's internals. It's quite a mission to do this in the middle of a speed ball or rec. game and I wouldn't recommend you to do so for obvious reasons. :D