E2 cocker VS Alias Timmy

[allstarpainter]

Alright heres the scenario, I got a WGP Prostock about 3 months ago, and I'm thinking of either upgrading the ProStock w/ an E2, nexus kit, nexus ram, MacDev Glad. reg, and a new barrel or should I go w/ an Alias Timmy w/ a Infamous board or whatever they call it - my dad might get mad at me for buying another gun already but whatever-

[cutomcocker1]

i hope your kidding :eyes:

alias with infamous tadao fo sho

[Someday1189]

DAMMIT NO VS THREADS I AM SO DAMN SICK OF THESE:pissed:!!! i have seen way too many vs threads today posted where they shouldnt be. no one respond, just let this die.

[allstarpainter]

REPLY: you must of had an interesting childhood...

[STO Balla 22]

An Infamous Tadao'd Alias is better than the E2'ed Prostock in every way I can imagine, even with the ups you have on it.

[DarkKnight1312]

Originally posted by Someday1189
DAMMIT NO VS THREADS I AM SO DAMN SICK OF THESE:pissed:!!! i have seen way too many vs threads today posted where they shouldnt be. no one respond, just let this die.

IN your 5 days as a member. Sounds kind of supicious. Like you've had another account. Which if you did, would call for bannanation!!!

[cutomcocker1]

Originally posted by allstarpainter
REPLY: you must of had an interesting childhood...

owned

Originally posted by DarkKnight1312
IN your 5 days as a member. Sounds kind of supicious. Like you've had another account. Which if you did, would call for bannanation!!!

owned...AGAIN!! :eek:

[DarkKnight1312]

Originally posted by cutomcocker1


owned



owned...AGAIN!! :eek:

double owned:eek:

[mopo-85]

lol owned cubed..

Alias with tado for sure no doubt about it

[Everlight389]

Alias w/ tadao = awesome

[Samrog777]

Originally posted by Everlight389
Alias w/ tadao = awesome

[A-5best]

might wanna look into a frenzy 127 upgrade its much cheaper cheak out the timmy forums. Oh yeah and the timmy owns the cocker and....... OWNEDX5.

[Mr Murderdoll89]

Timmy fo' sho. E2'd cockers have kick and the triggers feel very awkward. Timmy triggers are nice and smooth.

Owned to the 8th.

[draXXusballer]

i think he gets the idea...timmy...duh!:dodgy:

[stlyesom]

Must...repeat.....again.....

Alias!

[allstarpainter]

I already knew the answer but I'm having problems deciding how much better the timmy really is, I know the facts about both guns and I own a Prostock, I think I'll go w/ the E2 and upgrade slowly from there, after time I'll eventually get an Alias when I get sponsered by my dad's waterpark company thnx for ur guys help

[.:{}:.]

can u read? r u blind? or just stupid. The Timmy's way better

EDIT- I didnt mean to flame, im just really pissed off about all these vs. threads. and especially when everyone is telling him to get one thing, but he still wants to get the other one. why post it if u dont want it?

[Jeezer]

Originally posted by allstarpainter
I already knew the answer but I'm having problems deciding how much better the timmy really is, I know the facts about both guns and I own a Prostock, I think I'll go w/ the E2 and upgrade slowly from there, after time I'll eventually get an Alias when I get sponsered by my dad's waterpark company thnx for ur guys help

E2 is crap compared to the Alias, and I read somewhere that you can't e2 the prostock or something? Anyone? It might've been a misinformation.

[§checky]

You can put an E2 on a prostock Jeezer, no idea where you heard that. And for christs sake will you people stop flaming him. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, if we explained why the Alias would be better; it would help him more than just flaming the bejesus outta him and making him feel like crap. And he MIGHT LEARN something, oh my! Stop flaming people who are asking for questions and start helping them. Acting like an immature brat and yelling at everyone who asks a simple question, looking for honest help, is rediculous. Answer his question and help him to realise why it is better, dont flame him and act like a jerk. You may very well make him feel so badly he will think everyone here is an a** and never come back, or stereotype the paintball community like that. This forum is becoming a 24/7 flame fast as of late, and im sorry to see it happening. So help him dont flame him, all he did was look for some help from people he THOUGHt could help him. Right now he's probably thinking he was wrong with that assumption. So grow up and stop acting like spoiled brats.

[Jeezer]

Noone flamed him we all just suggested the Alias in our own way.

Good try at being the good guy tho :tup: next time make sure theres a bad guy.

[§checky]

Originally posted by .:{}:.
can u read? r u blind? or just stupid. The Timmy's way better

Cause he couldn't have put that any nice, its IMPOSSIBLE to word that in a nice way and explain why?? I'm not trying to be the good guy, it just aggravates me someone comes here for help and all they get is ppl telling htem they are dumb.

EDIT:Now i did not mean to insinuate that ALL of the posters had flamed him, but there were some who did. And no one who did offer him advice really explained why the Alias is a better choice. I would have, except i dont know to much about timmys so I wouldnt be much help.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/genetik/100_0308.jpg

^^Thats for you Jeezer, just FYI.

[Jeezer]

Ey, I never disagreed, I dont know that much about cockers, specially the new ones.

[§checky]

It was just FYI. I thought that a pic would be good to clarify the subject.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by allstarpainter
I already knew the answer but I'm having problems deciding how much better the timmy really is, I know the facts about both guns and I own a Prostock, I think I'll go w/ the E2 and upgrade slowly from there, after time I'll eventually get an Alias when I get sponsered by my dad's waterpark company thnx for ur guys help

don't tell me I can't read if you failed to read what I said earlier, as you qouted me I said I was wondering how much better the Alias was compared to an E2 cocker in your opinion, not what was the better choice, I have shot both and I disagree that the Alias is an obvios choice, don't tell me either one is more accurate because the fact of the matter is the barrel and paint make the difference, not closed bolt or open. Don't tell me one of the triggers feels awkward, that is your preference, not a strength of the gun and lastly don't tell me the Alias is better without an explaination. How is it better? The E2 can cycle 40+, I'm not sure of what the Alias w/ Tadao board is though. Please tell me how the Alias is better using facts, not "it looks better" or "feels better" - thank you for your opinions, but I was looking for a more intelligent debate

[Jeezer]

Cockers need to have thier blocks trimmed down, and alot of their parts switched out to lighter parts to make the mech to electro upgrade very effective.

Alias rips out of the box.

[Everlight389]

Alias w/ tadao:

- Better eye logic
- Lighter
- I have yet to see an E2 do 26 balls per second
- No back block cycling
- No hammer/lug cycling = slightly smoother
- Higher efficency (I believe...)

If you like cockers though, the E2 is pretty sweet, but in terms of performance the Alias is better.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by Jeezer
Cockers need to have thier blocks trimmed down, and alot of their parts switched out to lighter parts to make the mech to electro upgrade very effective.

Alias rips out of the box.

finally a good point, however If I were to put exactly enough money into the E2'd cocker until the MSRP of the gun and upgrades cost $1050 (Alias MSRP) I could easily shoot just as fast and just as comfortably, the Prostock would weigh approximatley 2.4 pounds, while the alias would weigh 1.5 that difference is very slight

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by Everlight389
Alias w/ tadao:

- Better eye logic
- Lighter
- I have yet to see an E2 do 26 balls per second
- No back block cycling
- No hammer/lug cycling = slightly smoother
- Higher efficency (I believe...)

If you like cockers though, the E2 is pretty sweet, but in terms of performance the Alias is better.

another good point, however the Alias would only weigh a few ounces less then a Prostock, and If Iwere to put in $1050 into the Prostock including the gun and E2 I would have a more efficient gun then the Alias, at a low pressure the Alias will give 1400-1600 shots off a 68/45 while a E2 cocker w/ the right ups would get 1500-1700. The eye logic can be fixed to break beam easily and just becuz you haven't seen someone do 26 on a cocker dosen't mean it can't happen, and back block cycling gives the gun more character, and lug cycling would be so slight it wouldn't matter

[Jeezer]

Cocker resale is crap.

And backblock cycling just looks cool, there s no character to it.

[allstarpainter]

ok but thats not a bad thing

[Everlight389]

My point is that it's one less part that is going to hit you in the face while your shooting. And true, I've never seen one do 26, but I've never heard of it happening either.

[allstarpainter]

have U honestly seen someone shoot 26bps on a timmy IN A GAME? if its not on the field it dosen't matter how fast their shooting

[Jeezer]

Originally posted by allstarpainter
ok but thats not a bad thing

Your right, tis a horrible thing.

The difference between an upped cocker and a timmy is the Timmy can hit up higher speeds easier than a cocker.

[Blue Baller]

Timmy kills the cocker, hands down. I'd take a 2k2 over an E2.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by Jeezer


Your right, tis a horrible thing.

The difference between an upped cocker and a timmy is the Timmy can hit up higher speeds easier than a cocker.

thats your opinion, ur saying you think a timmy is easier to get high speeds on- how about a fact?

[Blue Baller]

Originally posted by allstarpainter


thats your opinion, ur saying you think a timmy is easier to get high speeds on- how about a fact?
It is a fact. E-blades are harder to keep a consistant rhythym on.

Plus, timmies are open bolt, which is just yet another advantage.

[Someday1189]

Originally posted by Blue Baller

It is a fact. E-blades are harder to keep a consistant rhythym on.

Plus, timmies are open bolt, which is just yet another advantage.

1: how in the hell is that a fact:eyes:?

2: how the hell is that an advantage:eyes:? the only difference is timing. i have timed my cocker open and it made no speed difference.

[Jeezer]

It is a fact, due to the cocker's increased amount of moving parts, its harder for you to efficiently get a rythmic walking going on. Timmy's have a noid, bolt, and ram to move. And more aftermarket triggers for timmys.

[Blue Baller]

Open bolt is an advantage because barrel rollout sucks. Closed bolt really sucks when you think about it.

[DarkKnight1312]

Originally posted by Blue Baller
Open bolt is an advantage because barrel rollout sucks. Closed bolt really sucks when you think about it.

Yeah, longer cycling, more cycling mass, barrel roll outs, timing, and the chance of the back block hitting things. When you think about. CLosed bolt does suck considering it has no advantage over open bolt

[§checky]

lol i remember when open bolt used to be the sh*t, no no one likes it...

[Blue Baller]

Originally posted by §checky
lol i remember when open bolt used to be the sh*t, no no one likes it...
What are you talking about?

[§checky]

Agh I ment Closed bolt. Stupid typo, my bad.