rapid-fire drop off problem

[Infamypaintball]

Recently I have moved from a high-pressure tank to a low pressure tank and have been experiencing really horrible rapid fire drop-off, its almost crippling. What should I do to stop this problem

gun contains an evil lpr, ND rip valve, and ND ram and an evil bolt, with a stock vert max-flow

[toothpastedog]

What's your input? What's your dwell? I would first suggest raising the output from the resperator, and if that doesn't work, raise the input to the gun and then the dwell. also try cleaning the resperator.

[Infamypaintball]

input from the crossfire 92/4500 is about 450 psi , the maxflow output reads about 150-160 psi and the respirator appears to be clean

[Infamypaintball]

the dwell is around 7

[toothpastedog]

increase your input to about 200psi, and lower your resperator's output until the gun shoots 290fps.

[Infamypaintball]

ok I am now currently doing so... will update on the problem soon

[Infamypaintball]

on the first trigger pull of every string the gauge drops from 200psi to 100 psi....is this normal

[Infamypaintball]

upon this happening I removed my respirator and a long metal tube came out of my gun where the tapeworm would go, I removed it and put my respirator back on and now the gun wont fire all it does is click when I pull the trigger

[wordf0o]

Put it back in?

[Infamypaintball]

yep, its just the filter though and still wont fire

[Infamypaintball]

it just clicks and does not fire...........:(

[Infamypaintball]

i dont think my solenoid is blown because it clicks however it semms like there is no air in the gun and the tank is still reading 2500psi

[Infamypaintball]

Can someone please tell me what is wrong?

[toothpastedog]

is the tank turned on? Check the filter, and make sure it is clean. Clean the resperator and the maxflo.

Another thing to check:
Remove the grip frame so that the solenoid is exposed. Once you have made sure everything is clean, air up the gun. Pull the trigger. Does air leak out the solenoid?

Another thing:
Is the battery still good?

Are any of the solenoid's wires or battery harness's wires pinched?

[speedy2k4]

check the max flo. if you know how to dissasemble it, go for it. clean it, grease it and check for damage. that would explain the drop off. if it were a problem with the solenoid or internals, you wouldn't see that drop in gauge pressure. that indicates slow recharge, which would result in rapid fire shoot down.

[Dr J]

okay... if the noid clicks but nothing happens and there is pressure at the guage on the gun then my guess is that the Respirator isn't allowing air through the gun.

Did you turn it down?

Once your gun is shooting again... try BOTH tanks, the high and Low pressure to see if that has anything to do with it. If it's only the low pressure tank, than it's not recharging fast enough.

If it's with both tanks.... take a long hard look at your Evil Respirator.... then take it off the gun and replace the stock front cap.

[speedy2k4]

but the respirator wouldn't cause a drop off on the inline gauge because the air passes by the gauge before it enters the respirator, which is why i would check the max flo

[Dr J]

didn't see that post... but regardless, try it with both tanks first. If you still get the drop of 100 psi, then take a look at your vertical regulator.

[Infamypaintball]

Upon reading your replys I took apart the respirator and found the problem. i then altered my dwell and the rapid fire drop-off now is non existant and the gun runs at around 130 psi. thank you guys your your help

[ikey]

um you might want to go higher pressure than that. now i know with the evil valve and respirator you really want to keep it in the 200 psi or above (not to much more than 220 cause then stuff starts to blow). now you have a RIP valve which is higher floeing so you might be able to get away with it. but i still recomment turning your pressure up. generally with any lpr setup you want your pressure to be at 180 or above to get efficency. cause i cant tell just from your pressure that you are not getting teh efficency you could be getting. what is your dwell set at? i would turn it doen a little bit until you are shooting at like 180-200 psi range. if this is just not possible (i dont see why it wouldnt be), then try to run your pressure as high as high as you can go while getting the right velocity.

[speedy2k4]

why do people always think lower pressure is always better? i mean 200 is better than 800 and can reduce kick and ball breakage, but lower pressures often mean lower efficiancy. i would try 180psi. i think that it a perfect balance. that's what i run my dm4 and impulse on. i also run my friends speed, one friends cocker and another friends impulse all around that same pressure and they all work great.

[toothpastedog]

right, your normally would get more shots per tank @ a higher psi and a lower dwell setting, but hey, whatever works works, right? :P

[Paintball_REFF3]

Originally posted by ikey
um you might want to go higher pressure than that.

[Infamypaintball]

its set around the 130-45 mark but i'll give it a go around 180 but my gun seems to be firing well where its set at now. higher pressure won't hurt anything

[Infamypaintball]

alright I gave 180 psi a try and heres what happened, the gun appears to be sweet-spotted... my rof seems extremely fast (i know stock board is capped at 13.7bps but it seems to go faster) and my psi on my gauge only drops 2-5 psi per shot but recharge is almost instant and velocity is very consistant around 280-285. Thank you everyone for your advice...it was much better than having punishers fix it for me and then get it back broken

[Infamypaintball]

just decided to update on dwell. dwell setting suprisingly is set at 6 and my shot-to-shot consistancy is perfect running at around 180 psi.

[speedy2k4]

not bad huh??? :wink2:

[Infamypaintball]

not bad at all

[ikey]

you will notice a major boost in efficency. even moreso if pressure is 200.