gun upgrade

[ase]

I am officially done with my impulse, and am looking for a new high-end electro. any suggestions for guns that would be an UPGRADE to the setup in my sig?

and I dont want anybody to start crying that im getting a new gun, so im keeping my imp as a backup (a kick-*** backup, at that).

I was thinking along the lines of a shocker or a freestyle or a NME. or something else in that price range.

[lewdogg21]

timmy....

[CoolT]

There's a lot of guns that will be nicer than your current setup. Timmys, Vikings, Cyborgs, Protos/DM, Angels, aftermarket/upgraded Shockers, and Freestyles just to name a few nice high end electros. Price is the largest factor when buying a high end gun. Come up with at least a range or max price. You could buy 2 Freestyles for the price of a DM5 (just to illustrate the $ differences).

Run a search in the High End Electro forum, there are tons of these threads.

[ase]

ok. $700-$1200. what i mean is I dont have the money yet, I just wanna get an idea of what is the best gun for the best price. i only have like $230-$240 in my wallet right now, but i like to plan ahead. i should get $2-$300 for my birthday though...

[toothpastedog]

Why not just get a rasta angel? Search/post in the high end electric marker forum though, since this question isn't really impulse related. good luck!

[speedy2k4]

proto/dm4 :D

[lewdogg21]

alias. They flat out mow miss piggy faces stock.

[speedy2k4]

imo timmys are overpriced. the alias isn't too bad, but i would take the dm5/dm4 over it. it is super light though

[wordf0o]

Don't get NME. Why pay for a timmy clone?

Try the Ego. They're pretty hawt. I never shot one before too.

[speedy2k4]

except the nme has better features imo than any timmy, feels better and is way cheaper, only $900.

if you have the money, the ego is pretty good. i still like the matrix design better.

[ase]

ya i like the NME, they are without a doubt the sickest looking gun on the market right now. plus they have WAS. and equalink. and theyre only $900. I just need to shoot one.... matrixes are too heavy, plus EVERONE has one. angels? i dunno, ive shot a couple, and had some chops. but rasta is sick as hell, i love it. i actually was gonna make this gun rasta anyways, nmw gun i get. timmys i dont mind, but theyre kinda big for my size, plus i dont like how far away the reg is from the trig frame. i just dont like the general feel of them. the ego does look kool, except again, (and I know I'm being picky, but this is gonne take about a year to save up for), but i dont really like the feel of e-cocker either because when you shoot your bolt comes back and shifts the gun's weight. It just feels weird. does anyone know anything about freestyles?

[Team Chokepoint]

The ego isn't an e-cocker, its an electropneumatic hammer/ram design with an e2 for electronics. It basically works the same way as an Imp/Timmy etc.

Two people on my team shoot freestyles and they love them. Personally, I think the don't point well. The grip frame is too far back and the whole thing feels very unbalanced. But they shoot very nicely.

[ikey]

booooo NME. its made by system X. the only good thing about the NME is teh looks. other than that just get a timmy (better quality).

[impy1511]

well i like matrixs if you dont mind a slightly heavy gun. I shot a ego yesterday and they rip! I mean the trigger is alittle different but i love it and they are really light. Freestyles are very light, and nice but not my first pick. Angels you need to like them, altogther i like the matrix though

[toothpastedog]

ego=nme=timmy clones.

if you have the money, just get what you want, they'll all work amazingly well.

[wordf0o]

Originally posted by toothpastedog
ego=nme=timmy clones.

if you have the money, just get what you want, they'll all work amazingly well.

Ego is more like E2 + Timmy Design = Timmy Clone

Nme = Crap on a stick. System X...Ooh! Made in Taiwan quality! AWESOME!:rolleyes:

[toothpastedog]

Originally posted by wordf0o


Ego is more like E2 + Timmy Design = Timmy Clone

Nme = Crap on a stick. System X...Ooh! Made in Taiwan quality! AWESOME!:rolleyes:

:nod:

[ase]

have any of you shot an NME? I owned a type x for a while and didnt have any unusual problems other than the obvious problems that a first-time cocker owner would have.

[ikey]

well i like the looks of the nme but yeah i wouldnt buy it. well the cool thing about the ego besides the performance is that its probably the first non-cocker gun to use an e-blade (mass produced gun). but an ego is a timmy clone? i mnea i know they are very similar but it is built like a timmy with the internals hoses to the solinoid and stuff? all that carp in there is the same between teh two guns?

[Team Chokepoint]

Yes, like virtually all 2-tube open bolt electro-pneumatic hammer driven markers, I.E. Timmys, Imps, Bushies, Egos, NMEs, Angels, Vikings, and others that I can't think of right now. There are some minor differences like hammer diameter and air chamber size, and a few more noticeable differences such as the placement of the air passage to the solenoid in Imps, but other than that they're the same.

[speedy2k4]

angels are a little different with the 3 tube layout, solenoid and bolt on top, valve and hammer/ram on right and lpr/battery on left, but timmys, nme, ego are all very similar, and so are bushies and impys. i don't know much about the viking, but i think it is similar to obviously the excal and cyborg. then there are matrix/shocker which are a little different because the spool valve. and then some other off brand or different design guns. some people say the freestyle is like the shocker or matrix, but it is actually not.

anyways. what were we talking about?

[ikey]

no no i know all of that. what i mnea is an EGO built like a TIMMY. i mnea is it made with the internals hoses going to the solinoid and ram like timmys (no other guns do that). basically what im asking is it like a timmy or IS it s timmy with an E2.

[ase]

ok this is what i have so far:

weight: shocker
size: shocker/ freestyle
price: freestyle
speed: timmy/trix
least needed upgrades: shocker
reliability- ?

shocker-3
fs-2
timmy-1
trix-1
?-1

does anyone know anything about the shocktech shocker? if i were to get a shocker, most likely that would be the one

[wordf0o]

Originally posted by ase
ok this is what i have so far:

weight: shocker
size: shocker/ freestyle
price: freestyle
speed: timmy/trix
least needed upgrades: shocker
reliability- ?

shocker-3
fs-2
timmy-1
trix-1
?-1

does anyone know anything about the shocktech shocker? if i were to get a shocker, most likely that would be the one

Weight: Freestyle
Size: Freestyle
Price: Freestyle
Speed: They all go faster than our fingers.
Least needed upgrades: Freestyle
Reliability: 98 Custom

For the shocker, you will need a PL one which is mad expensive.

The FS is smaller, lighter and better priced than the shocker.
The 98 custom is a freakin tank, it just won't go down. I never heard of a FS getting a lot of ups.

[Ace onViperboys]

i say go for this
http://www.pbgeneration.com/showthread.php?t=26

prob in the top five best angels to get.
its light, super fast, the best anti-chop system for angels there ever is(eyeQ) very user freindly. simple as pick up and start mowing puppets

[Ace onViperboys]

its the second set of pics ( the black and gold 1s)
thats a angel JD fly 4

i think his current offer is 1200

[speedy2k4]

how about we all have different opinions about every aspect of every gun we are talking about and it's up to the guy laying out alot of money to decide which one he likes the best and which one if the most comfortable for him to use?

:banana: :elephant: :jumping: :agree: :bouncy:

[Team Chokepoint]

Yeah. And angels suck :p

Anyways, about the hoses, I didn't know that timmies actually had hoses going to those parts, but I don't see why it matters. It seems like it would add little to no performance gain for a lot of reliability issues.

I'm sure the NME shoots great, and even if System-X got their act together, I wouldn't buy one. It still says System-X on it, it has a stupid name marketed at stupid people who love clever/agg names, and the smartest 90% of us out there that realize this will laugh at you if you take one on the field. Even if you're not worried about this, I'd still wait 6 months to see if every NME on the planet has spontaniously combusted because some pre-teen Taiwanese boy put the solenoid in backwards. If not, and thats a big if , then go for it.

[speedy2k4]

the nme has been on the market for about 6 months and i haven't heard of any issues with them and system x has a good warranty. the reason you haven't heard of it is because system x doesn't pour as much $$$ into marketing as some other companies do.

[ikey]

yeah timmys have hoses that bring ther air to the solinoid and ram. i personally hate them. tehy make dissasembly a mother, and i dont know why, but i have have very bad luck with timmys. every time i see one i would say there is a 50/50 chance its going to break down. and i see them break down all the timy. how do that many ppl mistreat their 800 dollar gun? well anyways, i dislike these hoses. like i said they complicate things. one thing i love about SP's designs are that teh solinoid is screwed onto the gun and there is a rubber gasket. thats it. no hoses, no disassembly problems, its just simple and easy.

[wordf0o]

Originally posted by Ace onViperboys
i say go for this
http://www.pbgeneration.com/showthread.php?t=26

prob in the top five best angels to get.
its light, super fast, the best anti-chop system for angels there ever is(eyeQ) very user freindly. simple as pick up and start mowing puppets

I've shot one. Its not worth the money, imo. In fact, I shot the Red JD fly 1 out 25. Its mad rare, but I wasn't too surprised with it.

[ikey]

IMO the only angels worth getting is the 05 speed. yeah the g7 is very sweet but i dont think any gun is worth 1500. i dont think that any gun is worth 1200-1300. you can get timmys now for 750. you can get freestyels for 650, impys are going way down, proto matrixs are 950, and dm4 are like 1100. high end cockers are like 1000. vikings are 950. devil mag-900. ego 1100. if there is nto a gun in there that you dont like they your crazy. all of those guns will perform as good as any 1500 dollar gun. the joy division is a waste if you ask me. (well considering its baiscally an 05 speed with nice milling).

[wordf0o]

A JD fly is an A4 Fly with milling.

I'm getting 230 at the end of two weeks...What should I do with it? Combine 230 and Impulse for a new gat? Or should I get the predator board...Or trade for this kid's trix

The trix's ups is this:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=11539783#post11539783

He adds 75.



Hmm...Tough Decisions...

[speedy2k4]

word seriously, it's up to you. gotta stop asking other people because they are not you. they are both sweet guns. any way you can shoot someone's trix and see how it feels?

[wordf0o]

Okay...Fine. I'll use my own head. Hmm...30 seconds pass by...

I know, I'll see if I can get any DMfizzles otherwise I'll get the Predator Board.

[speedy2k4]

...Ding! :idea:

[Kurama]

Heres my opinion on most higher-end markers:

Timmy- They're great markers. They're reliable, small, fast, light, etc. They're very well rounded and fit every position well. Their eyes and boards are great stock, as does the rest of the marker. The torpedo reg is a great stock reg, and the BL barrel made by CP shoots great also.

Dm4/5/PM5- They're also great. They have an assload of orings, but thats the only weakness. They're a bit taller than most markers, so if you're used to something taller like an impulse without the width, the matrix is a good choice. The dm4/5's come with great stock barrels and regs too, with no need to up them ever.

Shocker- Good markers, but they're not known for efficiency or reliability. With upgrades, they're great, but stock they're not really in the same league.. They're small though! And light!

NME- Its just a timmy clone. A poorly made one at that. I've shot one, and it wasn't great at all. Spend the extra $100-200 to get an Alias for a much better marker.

Ego- A well done timmy clone. Its pretty much a timmy with an Eblade. The feedneck is offset the slightest bit (most ego owners dont notice it before reading the manual) which solves feeding problems with halo/reloaders in the same way as pandora boarded vik/excals do. Some people have had problems with egos' detents, but planet eclipse fixed the problem and stocks the marker with better detents and offers a free upgrade package for previous egos solving its only problem. If you like the e2 frame, you'll like the ego. Some people don't like the hall-effect sensor+magno combo, and some love it.

Viking- A great marker, probably the best if they were smaller. They're by no means heavy, though. They come stock with great everything, including paintballs' best air efficiency. The viking is the backman's wet dream. The catch? You'll have to find them used, unless AKA still has a few...

Angel- Also great markers. They usually don't have eyes (turnoff), and the bolts have problems chambering the ball (turnoff) causing chops, but fixing either or both of these problems makes the angel a beast. The bolt problem is fixable with this (http://www.docsmachine.com/gear/dyna.html) bolt, or with the G7 angel, and eyes can be installed at various places. With a well tuned Sensi, eyes arent needed really at all.

Now choose on preference. Try shooting all or most of them, and see how you like 'em.

[TylerWalrabenst]

I believe it would be best if you posted in the general paintball talk section, because you will get some un-biased opinions.



or welll... thats how it worked at PBN:confused:

[speedy2k4]

what we have said is all true. not really biased. no more than general forums, seeing as how this is the impulse forum and impulse is not among the options.

[ase]

oooooooo how bout this one.......



http://bradyspaintball.com/wgp05suauwie1.html

[speedy2k4]

:tdown: i have heard that:
1. it looks like a cartoon
2. the frame has no led or lcd
3. there are not much adjustments that can be made

[ase]

its a prostock....just like all the other years previous( 99,00,01,02...04) measning its not a trilogy or some piece of **** like that. so y is it not very adjustable?isnt it just the same thing but the 05 version? I owned an 03 and loved it

[speedy2k4]

well since it's electro it's like a superstock, and the electronics are the part that i have heard is not very adjustable, but i have never actually shot one so i don't know for sure.

[Team Chokepoint]

:tdown: its an autococker. Much more trouble than its worth. I would never pay 650 for one unless came with a decent barrel and a real e2. Plus I've heard the anno is cheap.

[ase]

cant tell me that cockers suck. i wont listen :P . anyways, to each his own.

i could just get it stock for $385 then e2 it. except i dont like the trigger/trigger pull much on e2's so i might jst e1 it and get the e2 board........ :idea: ..........would cost me at least $250 more though.......