Question about leaking on impy

[lewdogg21]

I sold my friends 32* impy on ebay for him to a person about one month ago and he yesterday he received an email saying it leaks and needs $50 in repairs to fix the problems.

First thing I would like to say is I'm 26 and a student of marker maitence, the ultimate sticky etc. I am in no way someone who cuts corners with my guns or teaches my friends to cut corners. With that said this impy was my friends first and so I taught him everything from cleaning it to what the parts are. My friend shot about 100 rounds thru it prior to packaging and took care to adjust the dwell to where it shot as good as it can. After that he cleaned and lubed the internals and then shot a few dry fires thru it to make sure it fired.

Once the item was sold the buyer left very positive feedback. A day or so after he received the gun he emailed me asking how it turned on. I replied with how the button is on the side rather than the rear. This led me to believe he didn't have a lot of experience with electro's however we are all noobies originally.

Yesterday he sent my friend an email (since they had corresponded regarding tracking numbers, etc) saying he finally aired the gun up saturday and this happened:

"A semi-dark day today as I'm writing you this. Although I won that auction about a month ago, I hadn't had the opportunity to bust out
the impulse until this weekend. I was so excited to finally use it,
however, that excitement soon left. When I put the tank on the gun,
it leaked from four places. That's right, four places. I was pretty
pissed off nonetheless, so I brought it to my local paintball dealer
today to see what we needed to do to fix it. He said that it'd cost
50 dollars for the repair and service. I then asked him if perhaps I was
the one at fault and he said absolutely not. I mean, I did just put a tank on the thing. Anyway, so you've probably already know where I'm
going at with this. I know it wasn't your gun but could you run it
by your friend that he sold me a faulty gun, and I would hope that he would
be happy to pay for the repair. Otherwise I would be dropping 450
bucks on a gun that really isn't worth that. Thanks for anything you have
to
say about this."

He sent a 2nd email stating this....
"Mario,
>
>I didn't drop the gun at all or do anything to believe that the damage
>to the gun was my fault. It stayed in the box until this past weekend.
>It leaked in four different places, and I used a CO2 tank so the leaks
>were visible. Damn near froze my forearm but that's a different story.
>Anyway, it leaked from the custom gage, steel braided hose, and the
>little bolt on the vert adapter (the tip was pushed out). All those
>leaks occurred immediately I screwed the tank in and attempted to air up
>the gun. I was hoping that you could at least help with the cost of the
>fix, I trust you that the gun worked fine, however I don't feel I did
>anything out of the norm in simply airing up a "working" gun. Thanks
>again.
"

Now It appears to me that the gun was overpressurized being that it leaked from the on/off, gauge (0-300psi bob long gauge), pressure relief valve. I'm assuming he cranked the maxflo about all the way in and then screwed on the tank thereby blowing out at those locations.

What do you guys think?

[SuperBeaner]

From 4 different places? And it almost froze his arm off? Sadly, that sounds more like two things:
He used non-antisiphoned C02 and that he overpressurized the marker. This will cause the PRV and gauge to leak, then the seals to break because of the cold. Also, depending on the perssure, the Max-flo itself will start to relieve pressure out of the bottom. It is completely User Error.
Also, it sounds like he could buy an Impulse seal kit for 20 bucks, not 50 to fix "leaks." Ask what his pressure was at and what type of C02 he had.

[speedy2k4]

first, he shouldn't be using co2 without anti sphon. second, it is very possible it was overpressurized. third, i'm sure he payed WAY below retail for the gun, even if it was your fault, is it fair that you pay the full cost to fix it? say he paid 40% of the sale price. you can pay 40% of the repair price. and the problem is either overpressurization or no loctite/tape on the areas that are leaking. but yeah he might5 have turned the max flo all the way in. that would do it, 300psi or so on a gun designed for 150-200psi.

[lewdogg21]

No idea what his pressure was and if the tank was anti siphoned (I doubt he would know the pressure).

The gun was a 32* ECS'd impy with a green halo. It included 2 matching barrels, extra trigger frame and parts including a green halo b for $374 I believe. The steel hose and gauge were installed using teflon tape to prevent them from backing out.

I do not feel at fault (nor should my friend Mario) but I'm hoping to find a cost effective solution for this guy to get his gun fixed.

Is it possible he blew the noid? What pressure does it take to do that?

[speedy2k4]

an impy noid?...250psi or so. they are meant for higher pressure than some others.

[Airborne07]

dont believe everything your told, if you know that they gun was working fine before you sent it, and he claims that it was leaking than that is his fault, and big deal, a leak, change an oring and drive on.

[speedy2k4]

and he left you + feedback. maybe he should have checked the gun first. i would say:"sorry, but there isn't anything i can do to help you, other than give you some suggestions because the gun worked, you got a great deal, and left me feedback already."

[ase]

i agree with speedy but 1 thing...you can edit feedback. basically its down to this. either tel him its his problem he didnt read the manual first (you did give him the manual right?) and risk a negative feedback or you could let him possibly rip you off.

if he threatens to give u a neg FB, tell him you will do the same. it works ;)

[lewdogg21]

Thanks for the replies. I am emailing him directly today in an attempt to bring some closure to this situation.

I will stay in contact with him in an effort to help him fix leakage issues without throwing away $50 at a store. A simple roll of teflon tape and a wrench is all that is needed.