need help deciding between guns

[Mjsk8er77]

I can't figure out what gun i should get either the Vexor eye (if the reviews are good when it comes out), the reincarnation, or the piranha eforce ext 2k4. and MAYBE the wrath but im not sure if i want to spend that much and i would be using co2 so that would problably mess up the noid(although i could get an anti siphon put on it). so any opinions thoughts or comments you have would be most appreciated. and plz no one say the imagine because every time i ask a question no matter what the subject some one always rambles about the imagine. thanks :)

P.S. the gun i get has to be WALKABLE with no or easy mods. I think all of those are except maybe the reincarnation. let me know which one are and aren't too if u would

[paintballer8807]

the ext is a perfect marker for more experienced beginners. not only is it cheap but it is an awesome marker. don't let people talk you into buying ofbrand markers like the vexor eye. not to mention eyes on low end markers don't do anything.(i own to markers with eyes 1 was low end and the other is high end) buy the ext off of www.actionvillage.com u will love it. trust me :)

[chinesebugrepel]

Originally posted by paintballer8807
eyes on low end markers don't do anything
Obviously you've never seen a tboarded spyder.

I'd trust the fish over the other two, and it is cheaper. You don't want to spend a lot on a blowback because you will most likely be moving to high end soon enough anyway.

[paintballer8807]

all eyes do on blowbacks is tell the trigger to fire or not. if u have a fast loader they are useless. on higher end markers the eyes do the same thing but the information gathered by the eyes is used to do much more then restricting a marker from firing. here is the manual for a tadao board for a matrix. http://www.tadaotechnologies.com/downloads/M3_Matrix_Manual.pdf most of the things in there are not possible without eyes. the t board does have a few options with the eyes but not very many and they are basically useless.

[chinesebugrepel]

Originally posted by paintballer8807
all eyes do on blowbacks is tell the trigger to fire or not. if u have a fast loader they are useless.
yes, that's what prevents chops. Fast loaders help, but they don't do as good a job as a good ace system.

[paintballer8807]

Originally posted by chinesebugrepel

yes, that's what prevents chops. Fast loaders help, but they don't do as good a job as a good ace system.

thank u captain obvious. however today loaders are so fast that they are almost impossible to out shoot. a halo b will feed 22bps consistent with bursts over 50. the reloader is the same as the halo but with a faster burst rate. a victory board on one of those loaders will feed 35bps. keep in mind on markers it goes a little slower since there is air going up the feedneck and it can't load if the bolt is forward. so a halo might only feed at 18 consistently on a marker. 18 is still plenty and you will never shoot faster than that on a low end marker and you will never need to shoot faster than 15 on any marker. also if you had eyes on a marker with a slow loader it may not chop but it will be very slow. so either way you are going to want a loader that is over kill for you marker. with eyes you will not notice any performance difference. when i use to use my evo the only times it saved me from chopping was when i forgot to turn my halo on in the chrono and when i was down to my rip drive. both times it didn't even matter if i chopped and i may have not even chopped. eyes them self are very cheap and so is the software. thats why some low end marker companies put them in there markers. why do high end markers have them? they have them because 1 the software in there markers require it 2 can't hurt 3 people expect it these days 4 because today back players shoot a consistent 15 bps and hold about 3 bags of paint on them and shoot between 500 1500 balls a game. if they are playing x ball were they have 20-40 rounds were they shoot 1-3 bags a game that adds up to 5-30 cases of paint. that is 10000-60000 balls a game. if they buy a new dm5 they could shoot more money in paint than what they paid for there marker in 1 game. putting that much paint threw your marker at that rate when you are spending thousands on a marker and shooting thousands worth of paint i hope you have eyes.