Airsoft and Paintball?

[stevieray]

What's airsoft. Is airsoft guns that shoot BB GUNS...do these bullets have more range? Are they better? It sure is cheaper.....5000 rounds for like 10 dollars!

[PaintBaller1818]

ughhhhhh. You again. Airsoft is where you use plastic bbs that shoot faster than paintballs. I'm not sure if they have more range. If you saw the ammo being sold 1000 for $10 or whatever, then why would you ask if the guns shoot bb's. Airsoft is an "honor system" game where if you are hit, you call yourself out.
[Enter Flame War]

[stevieray]

are they deadly? why dont people play airball instead of paintball?
how are the balls projected? same as paintball guns?

[PaintBaller1818]

Yes they are very deadly. one shot will kill you. People play pb instead because it is more fun (and of course it isn't deadly). The bbs can be projected using a spring type manual cocking bolt type thing or a self cocking gas or electric bolt type thing. I've never plyed so feel free to correct me.

[wordf0o]

No...Airsoft is not deadly. Its hurts a lot less than paintball. We play airsoft because its really cheap. I play airsoft on weekends when I don't have enough money for paintball.

[spyder_king06]

Originally posted by PaintBaller1818
ughhhhhh. You again.

haha, everyone hates you stevie. :laugh:

Airsoft is for people who like to play "war". Its stupid, if you want to play it go ahead.

[stevieray]

why! does everyone hate me man. omg life aint fair ...this is bull****.

[GranDream]

Originally posted by stevieray
why! does everyone hate me man. omg life aint fair ...this is bull****.


I won't hate you if you promise to never hit the 'new thread' button again.

[PaintBaller1818]

Originally posted by GranDream



I won't hate you if you promise to never hit the 'new thread' button again.

[^Arbiter171^]

stevieray strikes again:dodgy:

airsoft is kinda like a less expensive, less intense version of pb. i was thinking of buying one but then pb caught meh eye.

[Toxic546]

It's for old guys without a wife or children who like to pretend they're in the army but are really too fat and lazy to join. So they dress up and run around shooting plastic at each other that bounce off their 500lbs. of army gear they wear and you can't even feel it.

And then there's the smoke grenades, commando tactics and the overall homosexuality of it.

[amzng_spyderman]

it's for kids too poor to afford paintball, and people who like to shoot the poor kids :dodgy:

[PBfreak01]

Originally posted by stevieray
What's airsoft. Is airsoft guns that shoot BB GUNS...do these bullets have more range? Are they better? It sure is cheaper.....5000 rounds for like 10 dollars!

You know, your post count means absolutely nothing, so you can stop now. If you have a meaningful question, by all means, ask away, but no more of this inane gobblygook :pissed:

[PaintBaller1818]

Stevie you should quit pb and sell your gear and play airsoft. then join Airsoftreview.com, and never come back here. We'll be right behind you.

[PaintBaller1818]

Just to see why people hate you so much, I went to the Kingman forum. I found these
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=307193
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=307177
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=305646
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=306153
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=305843
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=305691_______________BUG
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=305648_______________O-Ring
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=305458
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=305352
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=304592
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=304816
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=304360
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=304360
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=304299
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=303294
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=303057
http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=299341
I personally like o-ring and bug. I think I have you figured out. You seem to like acting like a moron on purpose. I think you are posting all of these things to boost your post count, and to get your name out there. You aren't of any help to anyone, and you aren't being cool. People are just getting fed up with you. The Mods really can't do anything about this becuase you haven't really done anything against the rules, other than maybe spamming. You are however incredibly annoying. The posts of yours that maybe had relevance either could have been found with a search, or are later turned stupid with your innane questions. I have been on this site a year longer than you and I have half as many posts because I don't post retarded questions. Anyway the main point is we are trying to help you help yourself. No more stupid threads. If you think a thread might be useless, it probably is.

[Omegaboy13]

Stevie, clear your PMS. What's you AIM SN?

[stevieray]

Ok paintballer......im not going to post more threads.........

NO MORE NEW THREADS FOR ME FOR A WHILE :rolleyes:

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by wordf0o
No...Airsoft is not deadly. Its hurts a lot less than paintball. We play airsoft because its really cheap. I play airsoft on weekends when I don't have enough money for paintball.

sorry to quote you but believe it or not airsoft does tend to "hurt more" then paintball.

Ever notice how bounced hits of paintballs hurt more then an an official tag? This is because of the longer contact point of the paintball on your body causing a generally more painful hit. Since the BB's of airsoft guns don't explode on contact the BB is in contact with your body longer.

Also BB's have less of an exterior area, therefore the human body is more sensitive to the smaller projectile. For example if I poked you with a ball point pen and then poked you at the same volocity with a slightly larger regular pen the ball point pen would be more tender then a regular pen.

Even if the bb is a round projectile it is still a "sharper" projectile then paintball. Think about it, a sharpened pencil is still rounded, the very tip of it is not perfectly pointed, there will always be a point of which it is rounded at the very end. So a sharpened pencil tip could be very similiar to a higher reduced in sized bb surface face. So the bigger the pencil, the bigger the tip therefore it will be more dull.

final conclusion: the smaller the surface face the sharper the projectile, as long as it is the same shape enlarged or reduced the smaller surface face will always be sharper :tup:

[Gothmog]

I much prefer airsoft over paintball.

[wordf0o]

Originally posted by allstarpainter


sorry to quote you but believe it or not airsoft does tend to "hurt more" then paintball.

Ever notice how bounced hits of paintballs hurt more then an an official tag? This is because of the longer contact point of the paintball on your body causing a generally more painful hit. Since the BB's of airsoft guns don't explode on contact the BB is in contact with your body longer.

Also BB's have less of an exterior area, therefore the human body is more sensitive to the smaller projectile. For example if I poked you with a ball point pen and then poked you at the same volocity with a slightly larger regular pen the ball point pen would be more tender then a regular pen.

Even if the bb is a round projectile it is still a "sharper" projectile then paintball. Think about it, a sharpened pencil is still rounded, the very tip of it is not perfectly pointed, there will always be a point of which it is rounded at the very end. So a sharpened pencil tip could be very similiar to a higher reduced in sized bb surface face. So the bigger the pencil, the bigger the tip therefore it will be more dull.

final conclusion: the smaller the surface face the sharper the projectile, as long as it is the same shape enlarged or reduced the smaller surface face will always be sharper :tup:

Yeah I got a problem with that...Doesn't that only apply to "sharp" objects not round bbs? Here's my example. Bullets. The bigger sized bullet will do more damage than a smaller sized bullet. They both have the same shape. I believe that my example represents airsoft and paintball better.

In addition, when I play airsoft, the guns are set around 280 fps. However, in paintball in the indoor field, the guns are set at 250. Being hit with a 250 fps paintball leaves a huge welt compared to the red dot created by the airsoft gun.

In your example, the ball-point pen and the regular pen changed exterior area, but it also changed how sharp the pen became. An airsoft bb and a paintball only differ by size and material.



Originally posted by amzng_spyderman
it's for kids too poor to afford paintball, and people who like to shoot the poor kids :dodgy:

QTF! Perfect example of what goes around here.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by wordf0o


Yeah I got a problem with that...Doesn't that only apply to "sharp" objects not round bbs? Here's my example. Bullets. The bigger sized bullet will do more damage than a smaller sized bullet. They both have the same shape. I believe that my example represents airsoft and paintball better.

In addition, when I play airsoft, the guns are set around 280 fps. However, in paintball in the indoor field, the guns are set at 250. Being hit with a 250 fps paintball leaves a huge welt compared to the red dot created by the airsoft gun.

In your example, the ball-point pen and the regular pen changed exterior area, but it also changed how sharp the pen became. An airsoft bb and a paintball only differ by size and material.





QTF! Perfect example of what goes around here.

your missing my point completly, bb's can be sharp objects to an extent. The bb seems to have the characteristic of being sharper then a paintball solely on the fact that it is smaller and in the same sphere shape as I said earlier. Imagine a paintball, it's diameter is larger then a bb, the paintball has a longer circumference and the paintball seems to be more "dull". The world is a sphere, the moon is a sphere yet the moon seems to have a characteristic of being sharper because it is smaller.

A bullet that is bigger may do more damage but it will not hurt as much. The striking point of a smaller object of the same shape, weight ext. will always be more tender, therefore painful.

Also besides the point a larger bullet will weigh more, wether it is an ounce or a pound that velocity of the bullet is affected in a negative manner, the velocity is slowed. It may be very slight but that is still less then of a smaller bullet.

The welt left from a paintball does not identify the pain endured from the projectile. The bb is more paintful due to its size, the pain of a paintball is more dull then a bb. The paintballs has a larger circumference and is "duller" then a bb because it is bigger.

For example if I threw a perfectley round rock at you and then threw a kickball sized rock of the same weight for its size the smaller rock would hurt alot more. The pain from the small rock is "sharper" because of its small size. The kickball sized rock is dull because of its larger circumference.

As far as the changing of the level of sharpness of the ball point pen and the regular pen; the regular pen is actually sharper then a ball point pen, it is just enlarged, yet the ball point pen still would hurt more because of its small size. The regular pen is sharper and it still has less potential of being painful.

Before you post again please re-read my first post carefully. You have to realize the smaller the object the more potential to be painful it is.

to prevent further arguement let me present you with a question or two...

Do you understand/agree the concept that if you have two objects equal in weight FOR THEIR SIZE comparison that the smaller object has more potential for pain on a human body?

Do you understand/agree that if you have a paintball that explodes on human body it won't hurt as much as a 'bounce' from a paintball due to a longer time of contact on the human body?

[PuRe-FuRy-TeAm]

Originally posted by Gothmog
I much prefer airsoft over paintball.

That makes two of us!
And actually the airsoft guns do shoot with more range speed and accuracy!!!
And Some of them go up to 503 fps so if that doesen't hurt then i dont know what does!???:confused:
but those are gas guns.
There are three types Gas Spring and AEG
Spring is self explanatory and AEG is an electric gun which most ppl play with!
And like Paintballer1818 said he hasn't played so i bet none of you guys have so you have no idea!!!! What AIRSOFT is!
OK FIRST THINGS FIRST HERE's the list of the things that have velocity and shoot projectiles!!

First Your LIttle Nerf gun
Second Your Paintball Gun
3rd AIRSOFT
4th bb gun
5th pellet gun!

Plus do you think that a paintball traveling at the same speed as an airsoft gun could pierce something as well as a Airsoft bb!? NO!!!
Good luck with getting that paintball out of your back! (see would never happen!) Now what would be closer with a 6mm airsoft bb!

Plus why do you think they make real guns with smaller bullets!? and the bigger bullets have the POWER to back it up so............... its just physics guys!!!

See how the bbgun is the 4th!!! and it is way freaking small compared to a paintball and so is airsoft compared to a paintball and a bb gun is very close to the velocity of an AIRSOFT gun! So what would you rather be hit by A airsoft gun traveling at about 350 fps or a Paintball gun traveling at about 250 fps!?

[amzng_spyderman]

Originally posted by allstarpainter


your missing my point completly, bb's can be sharp objects to an extent. The bb seems to have the characteristic of being sharper then a paintball solely on the fact that it is smaller and in the same sphere shape as I said earlier. Imagine a paintball, it's diameter is larger then a bb, the paintball has a longer circumference and the paintball seems to be more "dull". The world is a sphere, the moon is a sphere yet the moon seems to have a characteristic of being sharper because it is smaller.

A bullet that is bigger may do more damage but it will not hurt as much. The striking point of a smaller object of the same shape, weight ext. will always be more tender, therefore painful.

Also besides the point a larger bullet will weigh more, wether it is an ounce or a pound that velocity of the bullet is affected in a negative manner, the velocity is slowed. It may be very slight but that is still less then of a smaller bullet.

The welt left from a paintball does not identify the pain endured from the projectile. The bb is more paintful due to its size, the pain of a paintball is more dull then a bb. The paintballs has a larger circumference and is "duller" then a bb because it is bigger.

For example if I threw a perfectley round rock at you and then threw a kickball sized rock of the same weight for its size the smaller rock would hurt alot more. The pain from the small rock is "sharper" because of its small size. The kickball sized rock is dull because of its larger circumference.

As far as the changing of the level of sharpness of the ball point pen and the regular pen; the regular pen is actually sharper then a ball point pen, it is just enlarged, yet the ball point pen still would hurt more because of its small size. The regular pen is sharper and it still has less potential of being painful.

Before you post again please re-read my first post carefully. You have to realize the smaller the object the more potential to be painful it is.

to prevent further arguement let me present you with a question or two...

Do you understand/agree the concept that if you have two objects equal in weight FOR THEIR SIZE comparison that the smaller object has more potential for pain on a human body?

Do you understand/agree that if you have a paintball that explodes on human body it won't hurt as much as a 'bounce' from a paintball due to a longer time of contact on the human body?
dude. paintball hurts more than airsoft. get over it.

[allstarpainter]

So what would you rather be hit by A airsoft gun traveling at about 350 fps or a Paintball gun traveling at about 250 fps!? [/B][/QUOTE]

If you read my posts above and were smart enough to understand my concepts then you would understand a bb has more potential for pain then a paintball. For anyone who is just about to argue w/ me below this post, scroll above and read my previous post. If anyone can provide a decent arguement then I will be glad to.

and for the last post by "amzing_spyderman" would you mind backing up your opinion. Otherwise your post isn't worth typing. My information has been backed with examples you cannout deny so please back up what your saying.

[stevieray]

so whats more of a realistic war simulation?
paintball or pellet gun? or airsoft gun?

[amzng_spyderman]

Originally posted by PuRe-FuRy-TeAm


That makes two of us!
And actually the airsoft guns do shoot with more range speed and accuracy!!!
And Some of them go up to 503 fps so if that doesen't hurt then i dont know what does!???:confused:
but those are gas guns.
There are three types Gas Spring and AEG
Spring is self explanatory and AEG is an electric gun which most ppl play with!
And like Paintballer1818 said he hasn't played so i bet none of you guys have so you have no idea!!!! What AIRSOFT is!
OK FIRST THINGS FIRST HERE's the list of the things that have velocity and shoot projectiles!!

First Your LIttle Nerf gun
Second Your Paintball Gun
3rd AIRSOFT
4th bb gun
5th pellet gun!

Plus do you think that a paintball traveling at the same speed as an airsoft gun could pierce something as well as a Airsoft bb!? NO!!!
Good luck with getting that paintball out of your back! (see would never happen!) Now what would be closer with a 6mm airsoft bb!

Plus why do you think they make real guns with smaller bullets!? and the bigger bullets have the POWER to back it up so............... its just physics guys!!!

See how the bbgun is the 4th!!! and it is way freaking small compared to a paintball and so is airsoft compared to a paintball and a bb gun is very close to the velocity of an AIRSOFT gun! So what would you rather be hit by A airsoft gun traveling at about 350 fps or a Paintball gun traveling at about 250 fps!?
you need to calm down. what's with all the freaking exclamation points? second, if you're going to get yourself all worked up, you might as well put some thought into what you're going to rant about. your entire post is just a bunch of random babbling that doesn't seem to have any point to it. ever heard of "word salad?" look it up.

[GranDream]

Originally posted by PuRe-FuRy-TeAm




Plus do you think that a paintball traveling at the same speed as an airsoft gun could pierce something as well as a Airsoft bb!? NO!!!
Good luck with getting that paintball out of your back! (see would never happen!) Now what would be closer with a 6mm airsoft bb!

Plus why do you think they make real guns with smaller bullets!? and the bigger bullets have the POWER to back it up so............... its just physics guys!!!




F=MA, Seeing as you say that the paintball and the airsoft bb have the same Acceleration in this case, and paintballs do weigh more, giving them more Mass, that would give paintballs a greater Force, making them hurt more. It's just physics!

[amzng_spyderman]

Originally posted by stevieray
so whats more of a realistic war simulation?
paintball or pellet gun? or airsoft gun?
isn't it painfully obvious? how many assault rifles have hoppers and co2 tanks on them? when was the last time you saw a paintball sniper rifle that wasn't just some n00b toy? ever seen a double trigger mp5? answer it for yourself.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by stevieray
so whats more of a realistic war simulation?
paintball or pellet gun? or airsoft gun?

Are you trying to say that airsoft is better because it is more of a realistic war simulation? Because if you are most paintball companies aren't trying to be "war-like" paintball is a sport. -read my recent article "how to get your parents to say yes." in APG for a full length article about how paintball is a true sport.

Actually Real Action Paintball makes a more "realistic war simulation" paintball marker then any airsoft gun, the company made it so shells pop out of the chamber when fired and paintballs are in the clip just like an airsfot gun. So RAP makes a more "realistic war simulation" paintball marker then an airsoft gun.

I'm just curious - have any airsoft companies cared about someones safety enough to make a full face mask for airsoft instead of small eye shooting goggles or a paintball mask where the bbs can zip through the holes in your face?

[amzng_spyderman]

Originally posted by allstarpainter
and for the last post by "amzing_spyderman" would you mind backing up your opinion. Otherwise your post isn't worth typing. My information has been backed with examples you cannout deny so please back up what your saying.
freaking experience, duh. throw as much of that technical crap at me as you see fit, but it doesn't mean jack. i've been shot in the arm point blank (literally less than an inch) by my brother's tokyo marui G3 SG1 with velocity increasing upgrades. it stung like hell, but i've had worse paintball welts. same thing with my own TM MP5 and TM AK-47. i've shot myself plenty of times with both airsoft bb's and paintballs. the paintballs definitely make their presence known when they make contact with your flesh. you can barely feel an airsoft hit at 75 feet if you're wearing BDU's. i have to wear a t-shirt just to make sure i know i'm eliminated when i get shot. no need to get your panties in a bunch. you're just wrong, that's all.

btw, APG is the single worst paintball magazine in existence. please don't tell people to read it.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by GranDream



F=MA, Seeing as you say that the paintball and the airsoft bb have the same Acceleration in this case, and paintballs do weigh more, giving them more Mass, that would give paintballs a greater Force, making them hurt more. It's just physics!

finally a reasonable arguement.... I see your point, however your technically saying force is equal to the pain endured from a projectile. I've been talking alot about when a bb strikes your body, the bb contacts your body longer then a paintball because it dosen't immediatley explode. The bb just bounces off, so the bb is striking your skin and then deflecting its force off the body. Same in paintball: when you get a paintball bounce it can hurt sometimes 3 times more then a regular paint tag.

Also the bb generally has more energy because it takes less velocity to shoot it becase it is lighter.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by amzng_spyderman

freaking experience, duh. throw as much of that technical crap at me as you see fit, but it doesn't mean jack. i've been shot in the arm point blank (literally less than an inch) by my brother's tokyo marui G3 SG1 with velocity increasing upgrades. it stung like hell, but i've had worse paintball welts. same thing with my own TM MP5 and TM AK-47. i've shot myself plenty of times with both airsoft bb's and paintballs. the paintballs definitely make their presence known when they make contact with your flesh. you can barely feel an airsoft hit at 75 feet if you're wearing BDU's. i have to wear a t-shirt just to make sure i know i'm eliminated when i get shot. no need to get your panties in a bunch. you're just wrong, that's all.

btw, APG is the single worst paintball magazine in existence. please don't tell people to read it.

I'm talking bare skin, a bb will hurt more. With clothes on a paintball will hurt more because of its force. But since the bb is on your body longer when it hits it will hurt. Because its on YOUR BODY (bare skin) longer.

What do you think will hurt more? A metal bb or a non-toxic paint solution enclosed in a brittle shell?

I never told anyone to read APG, I said read my article for a full length commentary.

-It's like saying watch the movie for a full presentation. It's not saying watch the movie. It's saying if you want a full presentation watch the movie.

[amzng_spyderman]

bare skin or not, paintballs hurt more than airsoft bb's, even the metal ones. get shot in the wrist with a bb and a paintball close range. see which one makes you want to cut your hand off more.

and your sig clearly encourages reading of that pathetic publication.

[allstarpainter]

What a life you must have to read everyone's sigs. Out of curiousity I read your sig; "When it comes to living, dying is the easy part." - I feel sorry for you then.

How does my sig encourage reading that specific article? I was providing new players with advice and for that I am looked down upon. hmm. So the publication is pathetic? So what would no published articles make you? Less then pathetic?

[amzng_spyderman]

Originally posted by allstarpainter
What a life you must have to read everyone's sigs. Out of curiousity I read your sig; "When it comes to living, dying is the easy part." - I feel sorry for you then. I mean I never thought inhaling and exhaling and eating regularly was hard.
i don't know how long it takes you to read a couple words, but i read fast enough where sig reading doesn't take enough time to matter. and you clearly don't understand that quote. it means that any fool can throw their life away, but a real man has the strength to do what he can with it. guess that one went right over your head. maybe you'll understand when you're older.

[allstarpainter]

I understood the quote, I was obviously poking fun at you.

How does my sig encourage reading that specific article? I was providing new players with advice and for that I am looked down upon. hmm. So the publication is pathetic? So what would no published articles make you? Less then pathetic?

[amzng_spyderman]

i don't need some printed words in a garbage magazine to give myself an ego boost.

and no, you didn't understand the quote, because your response to it didn't make any sense whatsoever.

jeez, uppity 15 year olds these days :rolleyes: think they know everything.

[someday1188]

Originally posted by allstarpainter
What a life you must have to read everyone's sigs. Out of curiousity I read your sig; "When it comes to living, dying is the easy part." - I feel sorry for you then.

How does my sig encourage reading that specific article? I was providing new players with advice and for that I am looked down upon. hmm. So the publication is pathetic? So what would no published articles make you? Less then pathetic?

dude, shut the hell up, just shut the bloody hell up. i haven't been around that long but i have been on long enough to know spydey knows his ****. i don't play airsoft anymore (got my front tooth shot in half with a BB, literally:tapeshut: ) and i don't really like it. if you can't comprehend spydey's quote then go back to kindergarten and brush up on your phrases. also publishing for APG is a dishonor and a disgrace. not publishing for them is mereley a normalcy. now then, when you are willing to grow up and talk with the big boys by actually contributing something to the conversation then come back to us. until then i give you in parting the immortal words of PBN,

"lEIk oMgee stfU N00BlEt!11!@1onehundredeleven!1#$2@eleventy!1"

[Gothmog]

Well, on the newtowifandanglin scale of hurt, the Maruzen APS2 with %400 non-linear spring and bore-up cylinder inflicts 34nfd points more pain than a paintball at a range of 22.4 meters on the bare scrotum.


I have my own opinion about what hurts more but I'm not going to share it because this is infantile! I suppose that's to be expected, though, since many of you aren't much older than infants.

[allstarpainter]

:laugh: How do you expect me to sht up if I never said a word? Typing is different then speaking you know. You guys do realize there are numerious ways to view quotes right? seriously;

someone could have thought the quote meant life is hard, so hang on and dont give up. Someone might have also thought it meant the ending of life is the easiest part because you've become wise and old opposed to young and dumb. You could have thought it meant that life is hard but enjoy it because the only easy part is when your dead.:idea:

[Loser2049]

Originally posted by allstarpainter
I am a dick and I don't know what I am talking about!

[PuRe-FuRy-TeAm]

Originally posted by amzng_spyderman

freaking experience, duh. throw as much of that technical crap at me as you see fit, but it doesn't mean jack. i've been shot in the arm point blank (literally less than an inch) by my brother's tokyo marui G3 SG1 with velocity increasing upgrades. it stung like hell, but i've had worse paintball welts. same thing with my own TM MP5 and TM AK-47. i've shot myself plenty of times with both airsoft bb's and paintballs. the paintballs definitely make their presence known when they make contact with your flesh. you can barely feel an airsoft hit at 75 feet if you're wearing BDU's. i have to wear a t-shirt just to make sure i know i'm eliminated when i get shot. no need to get your panties in a bunch. you're just wrong, that's all.

btw, APG is the single worst paintball magazine in existence. please don't tell people to read it.

See Thats why you bombard them with ammo coming at them till they call there self out:laugh: plus its funnier!!!

[PaintBaller1818]

btw, APG is the single worst paintball magazine in existence. please don't tell people to read it.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by allstarpainter


I never told anyone to read APG, I said read my article for a full length commentary.

-It's like saying watch the movie for a full presentation. It's not saying watch the movie. It's saying if you want a full presentation watch the movie.

reading is good;)

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

You know what is even better? The fact that paintballs on average hurt more then airsoft guns on average. A stock paintball gun can go up to 350 FPS, where as a stock airsoft will be lucky to break 300 FPS. Going on this, and using basic, and I do stress basic, physics that our good friend Grandream introduced it is simple.

F=MA Broken down, the force (aka what you feel, durrrrrrr) is equal to the mass multiplied by the acceleration. Now, knowing a stock Spyder can hit 350 FPS, and most stock airsoft guns hit maybe 300 FPS it looks like even if the mass of the projectiles were the same that the paintball would hurt more. With the mass thrown in, any imbecile with a calculator and the proper masses the result would be obvious.

[paintballluva]

Originally posted by Toxic546
It's for old guys without a wife or children who like to pretend they're in the army

if i wanna play army..i'll go to skirmish paintball and play war with my 98c and play a more organized game instead of shooting the S*** out of ppl with *** plastic things

[PaintBaller1818]

You know what is even better? The fact that paintballs on average hurt more then airsoft guns on average. A stock paintball gun can go up to 350 FPS, where as a stock airsoft will be lucky to break 300 FPS. Going on this, and using basic, and I do stress basic, physics that our good friend Grandream introduced it is simple.

I'm pretty sure that the bb's shoot faster than paintballs.
I think I read it somewhere.

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Originally posted by PaintBaller1818

I'm pretty sure that the bb's shoot faster than paintballs.
I think I read it somewhere. They sure do. I was talking stock though, and stock paintball guns can shoot at a higher FPS.

[allstarpainter]

Originally posted by No_DAMN_NAMES
You know what is even better? The fact that paintballs on average hurt more then airsoft guns on average. A stock paintball gun can go up to 350 FPS, where as a stock airsoft will be lucky to break 300 FPS. Going on this, and using basic, and I do stress basic, physics that our good friend Grandream introduced it is simple.

F=MA Broken down, the force (aka what you feel, durrrrrrr) is equal to the mass multiplied by the acceleration. Now, knowing a stock Spyder can hit 350 FPS, and most stock airsoft guns hit maybe 300 FPS it looks like even if the mass of the projectiles were the same that the paintball would hurt more. With the mass thrown in, any imbecile with a calculator and the proper masses the result would be obvious.

As I said earlier force dosen't necessarily equal the amount of "pain" experienced. If I whip a large feather at you at the same velocity as a small feather sized baton it has the same force, yet a baton is gonna freakin hurt more then a feather.

F=M*A

mass: a small baton and feather of the same size
acceleration: the same rate from my arm for both

conclusion: same force, yet different amount of pain.

main conclusion: a metal bb has more potential for pain then a paintball because
A.) its in contact with your body longer causing pain (just like a paintball bounce hurts more then a regular one) B.) a smaller projectile has more potential for pain then a large one since a larger projectile is more "dull"

:atten:

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Originally posted by allstarpainter


As I said earlier force dosen't necessarily equal the amount of "pain" experienced. If I whip a large feather at you at the same velocity as a small feather sized baton it has the same force, yet a baton is gonna freakin hurt more then a feather.

F=M*A

mass: a small baton and feather of the same size
acceleration: the same rate from my arm for both

conclusion: same force, yet different amount of pain.

main conclusion: a metal bb has more potential for pain then a paintball because
A.) its in contact with your body longer causing pain (just like a paintball bounce hurts more then a regular one) B.) a smaller projectile has more potential for pain then a large one since a larger projectile is more "dull"

:atten: You are using a very obtuse analogy because you are not taking into the fact that in this case pain is related to pressure exerted, which is a calculation of surface area to force. In this case the paintball carries a larger surface area, but not large enough to have less of a pain sensation then by a plastic BB, which the airsoft gun uses.

A) As the longer it takes to decelerate, the more energy is stored in the bb as elastic energy, and the less is transferred to your body as a force. This force being pressure, and therefore pain.

B) The ratio of surface areas are not great enough to make up for the large, and I do mean large, differences in weight. The BB's do not carry enough mass to create the same amount of pressure as a paintball going at equal speeds.

[Gothmog]

Why are you still talking about this?

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Mainly has to do with the title under his name.

[Worr Pimp]

what r u guys talking about...I LOVE STEVIE...i love what he puts down like saying his spyder does 38 bps...it gives me something to laugh at during school...keep them going stevie...:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[PuRe-FuRy-TeAm]

Originally posted by No_DAMN_NAMES
They sure do. I was talking stock though, and [COLOR=red]stock[/COLOR paintball guns can shoot at a higher FPS.


ummm you mean stock being compared to a SPRINGER!!!
And yeah see how close that is to a paintball gun (with CO2 or NITRO!!!) And Springers they dont use Co2 (just a side note!) And when an Airsoft gun does use Co2 or any form of compressed air for that matter then it doubles the fps of a paintball gun! Stock or not:laugh:

[G 2]

from what i hear airsoft guns arent that accurate...and dont have alot of range..but i myself hevnt tried it so idk....but i personally think that airsoft is pretty *** :P

[Gothmog]

I have used airsoft guns that can get an accurate single shot kill from over 100 yards away.

Why do you think it is ***? Do airsoft guns copulate with other airsoft guns of the same gender?

[No_DAMN_NAMES]

Originally posted by PuRe-FuRy-TeAm

ummm you mean stock being compared to a SPRINGER!!!
And yeah see how close that is to a paintball gun (with CO2 or NITRO!!!) And Springers they dont use Co2 (just a side note!) And when an Airsoft gun does use Co2 or any form of compressed air for that matter then it doubles the fps of a paintball gun! Stock or not:laugh: No I mean stock AEG. They shoot less then 300fps stock. And I was just looking at stock GBB and depending on the gas you use it's around 275 stock. It looks like you don't really know what you are talking about.

And Gothmog, it's because he's from Quebec;)

[Bellicose]

Seriously, why were comparing a feather to a batton? A batton has much more mass. Mass is not size.

Physics. A property of matter equal to the measure of an object's resistance to changes in either the speed or direction of its motion. The mass of an object is not dependent on gravity and therefore is different from but proportional to its weight.

In otherwords, the mass of the paintball is much greater than the plastic BB, thereby having a force that is larger. The larger force = more power = more pain.

I can see where you are getting confused. The BB has less surface area to absorb the impact, your "sharpness" factor. The paintball has a larger surface area to spread the impact over a big area. But, this "big area" has nerves, and many more nerves are impacted by the more forceful hit. Why does it hurt less when it breaks, usually? That is because the force is absorbed by the shell breaking. The force changes it's direction and also spreads over a larger area. But it is still the same force, thus hurting less.

From personal experience, no BB can do the damage two paintballs did to my knuckles last time I played, unless they were to go into the skin and tissue. It was swollen to say the least.

[wahoofan627]

lol- I have an airsoft pistol i bought for 20 bucks and its sorta fun. Nothing like paintball, but if u want a more realistic war simulation game get into airsoft. It doesnt hurt much at all unless u get shot on the head (especially with heavier BBs). You only need to wear goggles-not a full face mask. It is cheap to start with-but if you want a good gun they can run about as much as an Intimidator. Its fun to play in friends basements, but there arent many fields in the US, so stay w/ paintball.

[gnr rocker]

Originally posted by allstarpainter


finally a reasonable arguement.... I see your point, however your technically saying force is equal to the pain endured from a projectile. I've been talking alot about when a bb strikes your body, the bb contacts your body longer then a paintball because it dosen't immediatley explode. The bb just bounces off, so the bb is striking your skin and then deflecting its force off the body. Same in paintball: when you get a paintball bounce it can hurt sometimes 3 times more then a regular paint tag.

Also the bb generally has more energy because it takes less velocity to shoot it becase it is lighter.


ok what would hurt more from 30 foot a shotgun slug or a 22 rifle;) .