Vexor eye or ext 2k4

[Mjsk8er77]

i still can't decide which one i like more or what one is better between the gameface vexor eye and the piranha eforce ext 2k4.
I need to get one kinda soon cuz our tournament starts the 29th of may. So any advice thoughts or comments you have would be most appreciated.

[paintballer8807]

ext

[Algernon]

i say go with the vexor. i believe it's a bit more but it's more than worth it. EXT aren't bad but are totally outclassed by the vexor.

[Stanman]

Vexor Eye... The break beam eyes and a clamping feedneck make it worth the extra $35... Everything else is pretty much the same.... (good stock barrel, regulator, blade trigger [of sorts], good support, ect)

[YoBoneDaddy]

Vexor Eye is not as proven as the Ext but it packs a lot more punch than the Ext. However, having fired neither of the markers I'd go with whatever makes you happy. I'm sure both will turn out to be great markers, just remember though that the EXT does not have any kind of Anti-chop system nor is it as upgradeable (not 100% Spyder compatible)

[paintballer8807]

:laugh: :laugh: this is so funny. :laugh:

1st pmi has the best customer servise out of all the paintball compaines. u name it, dye,sp,bpblong,wgp,wdp,kingman,gameface,dragun,ody ssey, J&J,crossfire, centerflag,aka,brass eagle, VL,JT,national paintball suply,k2, lapco, tipmann,32*, diablo, airgun designs, aci, icd, ect.... let me list all the parts i have gotten from PMI free with free shipping

field strip pin
guage
velovity adjuster
jewel

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/paintballer88807/S2010069.jpg

2nd piranhas are very upgradable. u can upgrade everpart on the ext.(valve, reg ,drop,asa, barrel, feedneck, bolt, hammer, trigger, springs, valve springs, valve pin, triggerframe, board, switch, ect.)

lots of the parts on the ext you wont want ot up cuz they are already so friggan good. the valve the bolt,ram air, and striker are all very good parts.

3rd the t board is coming

4th a stock vexor can't shoot over 12bps without chopping. yes the balls will get in there and the eyes will pick them up but ur bolt will chop them in half at that rof. spyder internals are not ment to shoot that fast. hey u can up it and then it could like f2f4's marker but that will cost you about 600 bucks. plus he is going 2 be using co2 so it doesn't matter anyway

5th eyes on blowbacks are overrated

6th i will defend the ext til death

[dyedude220]

i own an ext. it kicks ***.

[dan06]

i love my ext. it can waste the spyder clones.

[YoBoneDaddy]

Originally posted by dan06
i love my ext. it can waste the spyder clones.

paintballer8807 have you brought your followers?

Anyway I had the chance to shoot an E-piranha today. Very nice. It's still just an electric blow back. And I still took the guy who was using it out with my POS bone daddy every time except once. The way I look at it most electric blow backs work fine. The features of the Eye are just better. Not only that but eyes would NATURALLY help in a paintball gun. I think you're talking out of your butt when you say that they'll only work up to 12BPS since you've provided no backup information. Of course the eyes on the EVO will support its 15BPS though right? Cause it's made by PMI and God personally shined his loving blessing upon it.

I know my electricity very well since I'm an Electrical Engineering Technologist and there's no reason that a sensor system would not be able to detect every single true state of paint presence and apply that to the controller chip. AND logic is one of the most basic setups in Electronics. You click the microswitch one bit goes high '1', as soon as the eye detects paint it sends a high signal '1', two pins on the microprocessor go "everything is good" and sends a pulse to the solenoid. All this can happen in mere microseconds. There is no reason the marker couldn't handle it.

Anyway I still say either marker is a good choice just don't listen to any of us because we're obviously too bias to recommend any marker to anyone. Although I think some of us are a little less bias than others.

[paintballer8807]

yeah i started posting then went away for an hour and i forgot were i was and thats why it is kind of messed. and i did bring a few friends from pbn :) and more 2 come.

well u see spyder stock bolts are kind of bad and so are most of there internals. i doubt that you can shoot a marker with those internals over 12bps. that bolt will just crush the balls. not to mention ur probably going 2 need a halo. this is stock of course. now piranhas on the other hand have better internals.(bolts, coding on the inside, ect) stock they can cycle a bit faster without having problems with chopping. now there is a reason why spyders or caped. it's not because kingman wants to be an *** its because if someone shoots faster than the cap it might turn there marker into a blender.(also there is lots of blowback up the feedneck and even a halo might have problems loading 15bps on them) same as with the piranhas. thats why they have a cap also. plus the frames have auto on them so it would get really messy over 12bps. now the ext has a reg so it wont have problems with chopping over 12bps.(close to 15 stock but i am just guessing) it still has the 12bps cap because it would cost pmi lots of money to make it higher since they would have to make a whole new line of boards. the vexor is capped at 20 not because it can cycle that safely but they figger the eyes will help it along and stop the blowback up the feedneck from causing chopping and figger no one can walk it over 12bps. there for it is probably easy to walk around 10bps with it and not chop. the ext on the other hand may only be about 7 or 8 since it skips shots on account of the board

now lets say you get the t board for each of them. lets say they cost 100 each. the vexor would cost 280 and the ext 245. lets say you can walk 15 on both easy. but wait. the vexor stock internals will start to chop at that rof and the ext internals can still take it. now u may have to spend 30-100 bucks just to keep up with the ext. also eye probably wont be a problem and if u want them they are only 25bucks and the ext will still be ahead. not to mention the ext will still run smoother than the vexor even with the bolt because the piranha has teflon coding.

lets say instead you don't want to up it and only have co2. like i said before the vexor will probably shoot a little faster stock because it doesn't skip shots. well the ext has a ram air chanber witch gives the co2 more time 2 expand and keeps it at the right pressure so u get more consistent shots. that will make the ext more efficient and more accurate. it will also make the ext more lp for those of u lp nuts.

on top of this all the ext has a rechargeable batters with to chargers, better customer service, impulse threaded feed necks(don't know about vexor), lighter switch (110grams), and free parts and free shipping. plus the stuff i said before like the bolt,coding, ram air, ect.

[CoolT]

All blowbacks will cycle extremely fast. I'd like to know where your getting this "chop at 12bps" info. I have no doubt that both guns can perform to there full potential. In the case of stock, the Vexor eye is without a doubt better. However with the $ you save a T Board would make the EXT very nice. I vote Vexor eye because it has nicer features stock that will cost you more than the difference of the guns to upgrade. Clamping neck, faster board, eyes, and LCD. I have no experience with the Vexor, but it's nothing new, blowbacks are a proven design and they function the exact same.

[paintballer8807]

the ext has an lcd and i am pretty sure a stock spyder will chop at around 12bps. the bolt and internals just don't work good enough to shoot that fast with paint in it. ( i am sure u can dry fire an uncapped spyder faster than that but that is without paint) ppl tend to think they can shoot faster than they really can.

[CoolT]

Blowback up the feed tube will slow down the rof. Without a force fed loader, any blowback will chop at high speeds. Even the Egg won't work, no force on the stack.

[paintballer8807]

Originally posted by CoolT
Blowback up the feed tube will slow down the rof. Without a force fed loader, any blowback will chop at high speeds. Even the Egg won't work, no force on the stack.

duhh. that was random

[Stanman]

Originally posted by CoolT
All blowbacks will cycle extremely fast. I'd like to know where your getting this "chop at 12bps" info. I have no doubt that both guns can perform to there full potential. In the case of stock, the Vexor eye is without a doubt better. However with the $ you save a T Board would make the EXT very nice. I vote Vexor eye because it has nicer features stock that will cost you more than the difference of the guns to upgrade. Clamping neck, faster board, eyes, and LCD. I have no experience with the Vexor, but it's nothing new, blowbacks are a proven design and they function the exact same.


:nod: :nod: :nod: ^^^Agreed... Now don't be arguing with the mods... They are always right :P

[paintballer8807]

i am not disagreeing. i am sure they can cycle fast. i am just not sure that they can cycle that fast with paint in the marker and shoot it out that fast. even with ups it is still hard to get it to shoot paint out that fast. stock bolts in these markers are pretty bad. most paint is likely to get broken by them at high rates of fire. and with the stock main spring in. now if you have ever put ur finger down the feedneck of a blowback and pulled the trigger u know it hurts. and if u have ever put ur finger down the feedneck of a high end marker u know it doesn't. high end markers can shoot that fast safely cuz the bolt doesn't chop the balls in half.

[Algernon]

you're full of it. if you want to be a PMI fanboy then fine, but don't fabricate BS to do it.

you're argument dosen't hold water. one spyder clone is little different from another. the teflon coated internals has 0 advantage over traditional polished internals in terms of paint choping. a blow back can already cycle faster than they can trip the sear so whatever increased cycling speeds you BELIEVE an EXT would have over a vexor also means little.

a spyder bolt does not chop paint if the eye prevents it from moving forward. it is possible than the bolt could break paint by crushing it between the ball dents and bolt, but that is completely unrelated to high ROF. your argument dosen't even make sence. fabricate something better next time.

you're full of it, plain and simple.