Section 8 or W.A.S? Boards?

[propaintist]

I need help!

Should i get the W.A.S board OR the Section 8 imp upgrade board?

I don't know if youv'e heard of the section 8 but here are the stats:



Section 8 Impulse : Vision Software Upgrade

http://store.gdpaintball.com//images/product/large/lg_48.jpg


Get your Smart Parts vision board software upgraded today with Section 8 technology from GDP today! Section 8 technology pushes the boundaries of Impulse capabilities to there utmost in rate of fire and modes. Rate of fire only capped by the hardware itself and 5 modes to choose from:


Selectable modes to choose from:

Semi-Auto - True Semi-Auto means 1 trigger pull, one shot. Completely tournament legal mode!
Burst - Selectable burst range means that you can fire anywhere from 3 up to 15 balls per trigger pull.
Full Auto - Allows for total paint domination at a balls per seconds rate that you configure yourself!
NXL - Fully legal tournament mode capped at 15 balls per second. Pull the trigger 3 times and then on the fourth simply hold it down to go into full auto.
Money Mode (Ramping) - Progressive ramping is turned on by simply using a trigger sequence that only you know. To pull the board out of ramping all you have to do is hold down the trigger for two seconds.

Full Feature List:


AMB (Anti-Mechanical Bounce)- Ensures that your marker won't be pulled for mechanical gun bounce when pulling the trigger!
ABS (Anti-Bolt Stick) - No more bolt stick power more juice to your marker for that intial shot!
5 Modes of Fire- Select from any of the 5 methods of fire listed in the above section!
"Hot Toggle" allows you to activate and deactivate ramping at any time during the game.
Full menu control through the trigger
Multi-tone mode indicators - Different pitched sounds make it easy to recognize what editable area of the board your navigating via the trigger!
Burst shot selection - Set your burst shot selection any where from 3 to 15 balls per trigger pull.
Adjustable ROF (Rate of Fire) - Fully adjustable Rate of Fire from as low as 3bps to 22bps for ramping, NXL, full-auto, and semi auto.
Adjustable Eye Sensitivity - Control your eye sensitivity to make sure your marker is performing at it's very best for that super high rate of fire with zero chops!
Adjustable Dwell - Fully available in live fire modes to help control consistency, air efficency and bolt cycling.
Adjustable Debounce - So that you can set the sensitivty on how many shots your getting per pull.
Trigger scanning - Advanced software ensures that when you pull the trigger it will be detected.
Instant On - Once the marker goes on no boot time it's ready right away!

The trigger interface is incredibly easy to use and toggling in and out of ramping mode before, during or after games takes virtually no effort.

:D Thanxs! (sorry for another question about boards...) :P

[toothpastedog]

Section 8 has more modes of fire, and can be used as a cheater board, but WAS is cheaper, take your pick. both work great other than those little things.

[DagNasty]

I know the guys over at GDP and they make some great products. The Section 8 boards for the pulse is a fine upgrade if you're looking for the features they offer. Like toothpaste mentioned, it is very configurable and brings some features not commonly found on pulses to the game.

If you're worried about quality and customer service.. don't. Mike and all the folks there are 100% dedicated to providing outstanding products and service.

and no, I don't work for them or have sponsorship with them.. just played with them many times and think they make some outstanding products. Section 8 boards will be coming out soon for many other markers. The pulse was their testbed.

[speedy2k4]

sounds like the section 8 has the ramp/auto/burst in addition to the features of the w.a.s., but i have never even heard of it before :eyes:

how much is it?

and it sounds like a predator.

[DagNasty]

it kinda amazes me that Section 8 Impulse boards are not more popular.. but for the record check out living proof..

http://www.gdpaintball.com/movies/s8demo.wmv

I'm not saying they are cheap.. because they are more expensive then Tadao boards are for the timmy or matrix. But for those of you diehard Impulse fans, this board is great.

And speedy, I'm surprised you've not heard more about 'em. after all.. the makers, GDPaintball, is based out of Maryland. :P

Yes that's Davey from one of the Arsenal teams.

[jokerdude1333]

THE SECTION 8 BOARD IS NOT A BOARD, it is an upgrade to the blue light cricket board. it is pretty much a software upgrade that costs 150 bucks. i would suggest getting the ECS software/vision upgrade. if you have your stock blue light cricket board you can get ECS software and eyes(if you dont already have vision) installed onto your board for either 35, or 60 bucks. it depends on if your board is locked, if its locked it will have a white sticker on the chip like this board http://hunt101.com/img/248926.jpg

ECS has 3 and 6 round burst, full auto, semi auto, and is soon to have ramping. and it has all the setting to adjust just like the WAS board. if you want to talk to the man who does it then talk to TRUPIMPWITANIMP on aim.

[DagNasty]

Joker would be correct, the Section 8 flashes new software onto your existing impulse vision board, a service for people who want a working board that won't crash time and time again. don't forgot about complete customized ramping to include set ramping activate/deactivate sequences.. something most timmy and matrix boards don't even offer.

[speedy2k4]

nice board. that was shooting about 15bps for all 3 clips right? pretty fast. but still. $150? if you want the extra modes sure. not sayin it's a bad deal.

and yes i have heard of gdp, just not the s8 software. pretty cool though. :nod:

[DagNasty]

I agree.. a bit pricey. But you gotta admit, the customized sequence for activating and deactivating ramping is a nice feature.

[speedy2k4]

the thing is, i would never be using it. :|

[DagNasty]

I would :D

[speedy2k4]

hey, as long as you aren't playing me, i don't care :P

[Team Chokepoint]

Interesting...


Does this use the same eye logic as Vision?

[DagNasty]

I seem to remember a conversation with one of their owners where he stated the logic is not the same or improved upon but it is not the same eye logic as standard pulse board programming. I'll get an answer for ya.

[ikey]

wow that seems liek a pretty good baord. basically, do you want ramping or not, and do you care about easy installation? also, im shure its a good eye system, but is the eye logic as good as WAS?

[jokerdude1333]

have you read what i posted. SECTION 8 is not a board it is a software upgrade to your board. so if you dont have vision when you get this upgrade then you wont have vision when you getthe board back. you are pretty much paying 150 bucks just for the software.

[DagNasty]

thanks joker.. once again, we understand it is not a board just a software flash. The topic of conversation right now is the eye logic as related to existing eyes and the ramping feature.

[CoolT]

And try to keep this on topic and no flaming. Added to the Ultimate Sticky.

[agentdaffy007]

Personally, i'd wait for the new ECS to come out. I wouldn't jump on the Section 8 hype at the moment.

[propaintist]

Originally posted by jokerdude1333
THE SECTION 8 BOARD IS NOT A BOARD, it is an upgrade to the blue light cricket board. it is pretty much a software upgrade that costs 150 bucks. i would suggest getting the ECS software/vision upgrade. if you have your stock blue light cricket board you can get ECS software and eyes(if you dont already have vision) installed onto your board for either 35, or 60 bucks. it depends on if your board is locked, if its locked it will have a white sticker on the chip like this board http://hunt101.com/img/248926.jpg

ECS has 3 and 6 round burst, full auto, semi auto, and is soon to have ramping. and it has all the setting to adjust just like the WAS board. if you want to talk to the man who does it then talk to TRUPIMPWITANIMP on aim.

ok, so im kinda confuesd! :confused: So if you have a normal vision, w/o any upgrade boards this will not work? But if you have the cricket software/board it will work? Now just clear something up for me, does a stock imp vision come with the cricket board/software?

thanxs/

[jokerdude1333]

if you have the blue light cricket board(you can tell it is this board by the blue light:) ), yes it will work with vision because the vision is a daughter board that connects to the blue light or amber board(if im wrong someone please correct me). This software upgrade only works with the blue light cricket boards. If you already have SP vision and just want the ECS software you can buy a cable for about 12 bucks and then load the software onto your board. if you have anymore questions talk to TRUPIMPWITANIMP on AIM because i dont have all the answers to the questions you may have.

[DagNasty]

propaintist..

Section 8 technology can be flashed onto any existing vision board. They have them for non vision as well but you'd probably want vision to take advantage of the features.

[agentdaffy007]

I say Section 8 software :atten:

Not worth the price!

[propaintist]

Thanxs for the advice! but i still think that the W.A.S board it better! Do you know if it has ramping? NXL modes? Can you upgrade them? And lastly do u suppose you could put the Section 8 Chip into the Equalizer board?

Thanxs! :D

[speedy2k4]

section 8 does have the modes w.a.s. does not, you can't put the section 8 chip into a w.a.s. board because section 8 does not have a chip, it is directly programmed into the board, and the w.a.s. does not have a removable chip either.

[jokerdude1333]

WAS WILL NEVER HAVE A RAMPING FEATURE. The only mode it will ever have for the impulse is semi auto. the only WAS board that will have ramping is the board for NME and the TIPPMAN, but that is because thoughs companies are taking full responsibilty over the WAS board.

[speedy2k4]

Originally posted by jokerdude1333
WAS WILL NEVER HAVE A RAMPING FEATURE. The only mode it will ever have for the impulse is semi auto. the only WAS board that will have ramping is the board for NME and the TIPPMAN, but that is because thoughs companies are taking full responsibilty over the WAS board.
never say never. that is one of the top 5 lessons of life...

[Team Chokepoint]

Tippmann has a ramping WAS board? wow.

[jokerdude1333]

well i was pretty much quotinf jim drew because he has said plenty of times on the WAS message boards that WAS will never have ramping board(except for certain guns because thoughs companies take full responsibility over the board).

[propaintist]

Originally posted by speedy2k4
section 8 does have the modes w.a.s. does not, you can't put the section 8 chip into a w.a.s. board because section 8 does not have a chip, it is directly programmed into the board, and the w.a.s. does not have a removable chip either.

Oops, sorry i got it confused. i thought that the section 8 was a chip! But its software. hah!:laugh: but isn't the WAS programmable? so if it is program-able you could technically put the software on the WAS board. Dude, that would be like the ultimate impulse board! ;)

[speedy2k4]

other than the fact it would clear the current w.a.s. programming, so it would be like any other section 8 programmed board. :| and there is an ultimate impulse board, it's called the predator. it's also the most expensive and complex install board.

personally...the w.a.s. does the job perfectly. i have no complaints.

[Team Chokepoint]

Surely you see the benefits of having PSP sanctioned ramping where it is allowed. The lack of this is one of the reasons that I think its time for me to move on to a new gun.

[speedy2k4]

yeah, it is a nice feature, i have it on my dm4. i never said it wasn't.

[jokerdude1333]

all you have to do is wait a couple weeks until ECS comes out with ramping software, and then your set. even though it will only work on blue light cricket boards.:)

[Team Chokepoint]

I know, and I gave mine away :mad:

[deckerv]

Anyone here use the Section 8 software upgrade? If so, how do you like it?

I hate to get rid of my imp, it's still one nice marker.. (and all metal :) ) ... so I'm trying to figure out what else I need to get my imp up to date, and the board or software seems to be the next upgrade I'll need. I have the white sticker on the chip, so no ECS for me :(

Thanks, all you section 8 users..... is it worth it??? Opinions plz?

[speedy2k4]

if your board is locked, section 8 would be the same deal as e.c.s. it would probably cost extra.

do you have something against w.a.s.?

[Smartarse]

I like the looks of the Section 8...but I didnt think it would go anywhere. This is the first time ive heard mention of it since its release. So ive got my Equalizer coming in this week.:goody:

[jokerdude1333]

you can still do ECS it will just cost 65 bucks instead of 35.

[deckerv]

Noper.. absolutely nothing against WAS. Just looking for something with ramping ability. Not sure when WAS will have it. I need to learn patience :)

My old fat fingers can't shoot past 14bps...lol. Maybe I just need more caffeine in my system ;)

[jokerdude1333]

over at pbnation and the WAS forums twitchy said within the week it should be out.

[yourout]

ok so i have the blue light cricket board non vision. what would i have to do to get the ecs and section 8????

correct me if im wrong....
get a vision daughter board
then upload the ecs software
???????????????

[deckerv]

I may be wrong, but with Section 8 Software, you send your board to Global Domination paintball, and they flash your board... doesn't matter if it's Ecs capable or not.. they totally flash the chip. Locked or unlocked.. doesn't matter.

With ECS, you have to be one of the lucky ones with a microchip without the white sticker on it.. If it has a white sticker, then ECS is a no go cuz it's locked most likely, and section 8 software is the only other option unless you replace the board with a WAS or predator.

My board is locked, so if I wanted to keep the stock vision cricket board, I need to send it to GDP to get it flashed by them.

[speedy2k4]

if it'sa locked you can still get ecs, it just costs more.

[ase]

whoa whoa whoa......really speedy? like how much more?

[deckerv]

How can I get the ECS on there then? Is it like Section 8 and you have to send your board to someone to do it?

[speedy2k4]

i think ecs is normally $35, and with a locked chip, it's $65.

[ase]

no you can buy an ecs cable and download it straight from your comp.

[deckerv]

Where can I get the locked version upgraded? Any website links?

I guess I'm confused cuz of this statement on the 8mmdesign.com/ecs site...

New cricket boards that have a white sticker on the microcontroller are NOT PROGRAMMABLE. The serial peripheral interface used to communicate with the device has been disabled on these. SP12 and other programmers will not even recognize the chip.


Thanks,
Deck

[ase]

ya i thought that if it was locked (had the white sticker) it couldnt be programmed. are you sure speedy?

we need jokerdude

[yourout]

so im the lucky guy w/ a unlocked board so now what do i do its a non vision blue light what now?