Should I get a sniper barrel

[SOLIDSNAKE]

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I want to get a sniper barrel. but i don't know where i can
find one.do you know where one is.
Thanks

[rogue]

depends on your gun...id goto xpaintball.com or 888paintball.com dont get any barrel above 16"....basically 16" is alot but if your sniping (sniper barrel) go with the 16" if you just want to be able to sacrife some agility to be able to take more accurate shots from further distances get a 14"

PS just about all guns regardless of barrel will shoot the same distance so dont bother with long barrels...i read someones bio from osok the other day and they used a 24" sniper barrel..my god i bet my 16" or my 14" would be more accurate than that..

tell us your gun and current barrel and we can give u some good options...say price range too

[SOLIDSNAKE]

I have a Piranha BL G2 . A 9 inch threaded aluminum Barrel;)

[Magnus55]

I have a 16" dye boomstick on my spyder. It's a little long by speedball standards, but it's very accurate. Some paintballers don't like to use the term "sniper", but others use it very often. It's the source of a lot of arguements that end up going no where. It's the woodsplayers who tend to use the term "sniper" usually, and I have no problem with people using it, but if you're playing speedball, they might look at you funny if you use the term "sniper" instead they use "longballer" or "back player". It's kinda silly, really. :laugh:

[SOLIDSNAKE]

Yeh that is kinda silly

thanks man.

[Crime Dog]

I'd suggest a SmartParts All American Barrel. They're extremely quiet (even more than the Boomstick), and very accurate. Or go with a J&J. Those are quiet as well, and the accuracy is good. (Not to mention you can get them cheap!)

[compadre7]

First, a longer barrel isn't going to make you shoot further, or even more accurate. The LONGEST I would suggest is a 14". A good quiet barrel is the All American. If ya want proof of the long barrel accuracy thing, ask, I'll find the link for you. How about a 12" - 14" All American? http://www.actionvillage.com/paintball-barrels-smart-parts-barrels-smart-parts-all-american-barrels.html

[Magnus55]

I never said a longer barrel would make a paintball go further. The only barrel so far that can do that is the tippman flatline. But how can you say that a longer barrel doesn't do anything for accuracy? Why else would they make barrels longer than 12-14" if it isn't going to make any difference? They might as well just save money on the extra material and save the consumer some money as well. I would like to see this link of yours, please.

[rogue]

i agree with magnus...longer barrels do improve accuracy to a certain extent..but with going to 24" like ive seen some ppl boasting about the 24" sniper barrel (mostly some newbs but some from very respecable snipers) and i really dont see any difference from my 16" to their 24" and beyond (yes ive shoot a friends 3 foot long barrel :/)..what ive always assumed is people saying the ball is pushed only about 8 inches and the rest is drag....personally it doesnt make sense. I would assume to ball is pushed untill the first portings on the barrel and a little bit past that (depending on the ammount of portings) but i could be wrong.

[UTLadiesMan]

The ball only gains accuracy for 6". Anything past that is excessive, and uses more air. 2 stage barrels such as the boomstick, have the ball only actually touch the barrel for the first 6 inches, the rest just quiets the marker. If you play a lot of speedball, I would highly recommend capping your length at 12", and you should get a two stage barrel (such as the boomy or AA). It is so much easier to tuck into a bunker and snap shoot if you have a short barrel. If you play a lot of woodsball, you can lengthen your barrel, but all it will do is make your marker more quite. However, if you have a blowback operating at a high pressure, it won't matter since your recocking will be plenty loud anyway.

Just look for a barrel that fits the paint you like well, and is well made. You want the inside of the barrel to be perfectly smooth and round. Get a 2 stage barrel, and keep it short. It will work much better, and you will be much happier in the long run.

[jaronervin]

If you have a Spyder, I am selling a 20" Taso Stone Cold II sniper barrel for $50. e-mail me jaronervin@msn.com if you want. Thanks, Jay

[ColdFusion]

dont buy a barrel that is over 12 inches. And dont buy a sniper barrel. barrel lenght does not mean mopre accuracy or range and if you think it dose you are an idiot.

[sosoguy01]

a store in a mall near me has a 48'' barrel w/ chrome finish. Selling for only $300

[UTLadiesMan]

Originally posted by sosoguy01
a store in a mall near me has a 48'' barrel w/ chrome finish. Selling for only $300

That's stupid. Pay $300 for a barrel that will use half a 9oz every shot, keep you from running, and be a huge target in the bunkers, but more importantly WILL NOT INCREASE PERFORMANCE. The only reason anyone sane would get that is to be unique, but if you spend $300 for that, you still have problems.

[jaronervin]

Unless you have a really good gun, like a cocker or mag (which are very accurate already), then longer barrels DO make the gun more accurate to an extent. And any barrel is a huge improvement over stock, anyway. My 20" doesn't really get in the way, either. Also, if somebody is accurate enough to hit something under an inch wide, no matter how long it is, they deserve the credit! Jay
And by the way, 48" is just plain stupid!

[sosoguy01]

I agree, (don't worry, i didn't buy it). The guy that owns the store says its kind of a novelty item, but he has used it a few times with a palmer. He told me its way to heavy to actually use but does look sorta sweet....i think that anything larger than 20 is a little cumbersome.

[UTLadiesMan]

Originally posted by jaronervin
Also, if somebody is accurate enough to hit something under an inch wide, no matter how long it is, they deserve the credit!

All you need is volume and time... and on a speedball course, if you aren't that far away, it shouldn't take long.

[ColdFusion]

a 20 inch barrel is to long all you need is 12 or 10 ask anyone who actually knows what they are talking about after 12 inches all it does is add length and that means you have to use more air to get the ball out of the barrel.

[Magnus55]

How does it take more air to make the same ball go out of a similar barrel just with different lengths? I could see if one barrel was tighter than the other, then there would be friction and what not, but if it's the same type of barrel shooting the same type of paintballs, wouldn't the longer barrel just be guiding the paintball for longer, thus making it more accurate? :confused:

[UTLadiesMan]

Nope. Assuming a one stage barrel, the paintball will touch the sides of the barrel from first being shot until exiting the barrel. As the ball moves along the barrel, it creates friction. A barrel that is 16" long creates twice as much friction as a 8" barrel, and thus needs more gas to propel the paintball at the same speed. Also, they really aren't more accurate. Paintballs are inherently inaccurate anyway because they are spheres and not perfect ones at that. It doesn't take a lot of barrel length to make the exit path accurate, it does however need a good match, and smooth surface. Also, a good paint to bore match, and little friction surfaces will help improve consistency which is much more important than accuarcy.

[rogue]

ok so you say that it requires more air to get it out? at some extent it does but a gun doesnt have a brain and thus cant (alone) control the output of air going through the barrel depending on size of barrel...so the only thing a longer barrel is going to do is make your shot drop sooner because it doesnt have as much push...it requires no more to get it out but to get the full extent of the barrels accuracy more air should be used.

[UTLadiesMan]

You're right. It doesn't have a brain. It relies soley on mechanics, which are adjustable. By adjusting your main spring (or dwell on electros) by adjusting your "velocity adjuster", you determine how long the valve is going to be open. When you turn your velocity adjuster to the right, you push a block inside against the main spring, and thus make the spring stiffer. The stiffer the spring is, the harder it hits the valve pin. The harder it hits the valve pin, the further back the valve pin goes. The further back the valve pin goes, the longer it takes to close. (further back, further forward) The longer it takes to close, the more air goes out the barrel to propel the ball. Also, if you have a regulator, you can up the pressure. The more pressure you give it, the more air will leave in a given amount of time (which is determined by the before mentioned springs.) Increasing either the pressure into the gun, or the tension of the spring, will cause more air to go out the barrel and push the ball, which makes the ball go faster.

Short story, if you have to increase your speed, you will increase the amount of air going out the barrel. (either by increasing how much air during the time, or increasing the time.)

[rogue]

yea i didnt want to go too deep

[Jspyder]

guys, cant we just get along, we all know the arguement over barrel length, bore size, porting, all that stuff, SOLIDSNAKE , just buy a barrel that the owner of the establishment will back up and say that its a good barrel, i own a 12, 14, and 16 in barrels, they are all fine and dandy, get wat feels right, looks r the last thing u want, i advise a Custom Products barrel, nice things that are cheap on ebay.com

[compadre7]

Originally posted by Magnus55
I never said a longer barrel would make a paintball go further. The only barrel so far that can do that is the tippman flatline.

I'm not quite sure why you assume my statement was directed at YOU. I am just trying to help him to not get, like others have stated, something like a 24" barrel (unless, of course, he likes it).

But how can you say that a longer barrel doesn't do anything for accuracy? Why else would they make barrels longer than 12-14" if it isn't going to make any difference? They might as well just save money on the extra material and save the consumer some money as well. I would like to see this link of yours, please.

They make barrels longer than 14" because some people may like it, or some may think they are more accurate, or give longer range. And here's my link http://www.pbreview.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=24647

From article-
The worlds most accurate barrel

Hate to disappoint you, but there is no such thing. What you want to look for in a barrel is one that loads the ball gently, has an effective length of 8-12 inches, doesn't double feed, and has a bore that best matches the balls you are using. When I get mail asking "what do you think of barrel XYZ", I just laugh. There is no one barrel that is the best. If you play in competitions or travel from field to field, you are going to be forced at one time or another to use field paint. You cannot guarantee the balls are round, or that the fill is mixed evenly, or that the shell is not dimpled, or that the size of the ball will match you one "favorite" barrel. My advice on barrel selection is to get a few barrels that seem to perform well with the paint brand and color that you use most often. Having barrels of varying inside diameters will come in handy when the tournament paint doesn't work in your favorite barrel.

I am not trying to put you down in anyway Magnus, but you seem offended. If you like a 16" barrel, great! You've found your style. You think it works better in woods? Okay. Maybe I like cheese cake and you don't. It's a matter of personal preference. What the article says is 8-12" of effective length. If you want longer or shorter it's up to you.

[rogue]

speaking from many woodball games...a longer is barrel is better in the woods because alot of time u need to push your barrel through brush or some other type of vegetation just to get a shot because if you move where your not covered your gonna be under fire...and if you want a "sniper barrel" i would reccomend getting one only for rec/woodsball and get a longer on for the sake of limiting your shots...

[tonysk83]

you dont use more air with a longer barrel becasue if you took of your barrel and shot a paintball (who would) you use a certain a mount of air, a barrel is just an object that is put there to make your ball more accurate, so the same amount of air is used with no barrel, a 12in barrel, or a 16in barrel.

rogue ok so you say that it requires more air to get it out? at some extent it does but a gun doesnt have a brain and thus cant (alone) control the output of air going through the barrel depending on size of barrel...so the only thing a longer barrel is going to do is make your shot drop sooner because it doesnt have as much push...it requires no more to get it out but to get the full extent of the barrels accuracy more air should be used.

you hit the nail on the head :crazy:

[jaronervin]

I have seen so many forums on this, it is making me sick! After reading them all, I have made a webpage on it. Go to http://www.geocities.com/jaronervin , and click on the barrel link. Jay