View Full Version : should i get a torid x or vexor eye or pirahna evo or blind rage and also why
tordx77
06-03-2005, 05:19 PM
help me out i am trying to decide which gun to get
should i get a torid x or vexor eye or pirahna evo or blind rage and also why
Downfall08
06-03-2005, 05:21 PM
Ion
tordx77
06-03-2005, 05:22 PM
too expensive
Downfall08
06-03-2005, 05:23 PM
Trust me. It will be worth the extra cash. If not an Ion than a BKO.
But if you must pick out of those I guess the evo would satisfy.
BoneDaddy68
06-03-2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Downfall08
Ion
If i hear one more prson say that i swear i'll shoot someone! And newflash the ION doesn't even come stock with a dropforward and its stock barrel is about as good as a stingray barrel! (not that bad but you get the point)
and get the blind rage, it isnt well known, but it kiks! Breaks beams, 30bps, nice milling, very light switch, good stock barrel
Downfall08
06-03-2005, 05:29 PM
Ion is a fully electropnematic gun with breakbeam eyes. It has a pretty decent reg too. 17bps is pretty fast stock. Most likely faster that this guy can shoot. The ion is very small and light. I also think that its a good thing that it doesnt come stock with a drop. A duckbill won't run you very much money anyway.
But I really dont know what the blind rage is. My guess is a blowback with eyes, just like a TES.
four_wheelerer
06-03-2005, 05:29 PM
get the vexor eye its on awesome gun youll love it
BoneDaddy68
06-03-2005, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by Downfall08
Ion is a fully electropnematic gun with breakbeam eyes. It has a pretty decent reg too. 17bps is pretty fast stock. Most likely faster that this guy can shoot. The ion is very small and light. I also think that its a good thing that it doesnt come stock with a drop. A duckbill won't run you very much money anyway.
But I really dont know what the blind rage is.look it up before you speak again My guess is a blowback with eyes, just like a TES.
It is a stacked blowback but its better, much better. and who cares of the ION is EP, it doesnt change the performance much other than giving it a lil better air efficiency.
edit- actually, i just realized, the blind rage is also LP so i guess the air efficiencies are about equal.
jdolla
06-03-2005, 05:52 PM
Ion = probably more air efficient, better consistancy, more room for upgrade, (as every company on the planet is scrambling to come out with parts for it), less kick.
Also, drop forwards are not considered a good thing for a gun to come with stock. I won't get into drop vs. no drop, but everyone's preferences are different, as are the tanks they use. So everyone will need a different setup, whether it's standard ASA like me, or flipping huge drops like some people choose.
Personally I'd recommend the Ion over those. The Ion probably has more of a future than the Blind Rage.
robdamanii
06-03-2005, 05:59 PM
Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
If i hear one more prson say that i swear i'll shoot someone! And newflash the ION doesn't even come stock with a dropforward and its stock barrel is about as good as a stingray barrel! (not that bad but you get the point)
and get the blind rage, it isnt well known, but it kiks! Breaks beams, 30bps, nice milling, very light switch, good stock barrel
Drops suck harder than a vacuum and the stock barrel is just fine. It's no CP, but it's not bad.
Electro > Blowback, always.
Downfall08
06-03-2005, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
It is a stacked blowback but its better, much better. and who cares of the ION is EP, it doesnt change the performance much other than giving it a lil better air efficiency.
edit- actually, i just realized, the blind rage is also LP so i guess the air efficiencies are about equal.
Its a spool-valve design which means it would have much less kick than a blowback.
coolrazer
06-03-2005, 07:35 PM
:banghead:
Why?? Why?? Why??
Don't you just love how people come here asking for your opinion, and then jump all over you and get all defensive when you don't give the answer they want.
clown_13_2001
06-04-2005, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
It is a stacked blowback but its better, much better. and who cares of the ION is EP, it doesnt change the performance much other than giving it a lil better air efficiency.
edit- actually, i just realized, the blind rage is also LP so i guess the air efficiencies are about equal.
Going to a higher end marker, such as one that is electro-pneumatic, isn't just for getting 20 more shots out of your tank. I doubt you have even shot a high end marker, much less that blind rage. You probably just saw it one day and was all like "AHH I HAVE MY ION FIGHTER NOW!!1 NO ONE CAN STOP MEE!!!12#@!42"
And cool, I don't think the thread starter has posted, except when he said the ion was too expensive. ;)
four_wheelerer
06-04-2005, 06:45 AM
what are you talking about some body said ion which wasnt one of the choices in the first place and the guy that started this thread said "too expensive" and he hasnt said aything else
tordx77
06-04-2005, 07:22 AM
sorry i had a lax game and iwas really tired. but, the ion...
-overpriced
-annoying as anything to see or hear about
-everone has one just like the 98 cuatom.
i think i am going to get the vexor eye or the blind rage i wanted to know what kind of threads they have though??
clown_13_2001
06-04-2005, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by tordx77
sorry i had a lax game and iwas really tired. but, the ion...
-overpriced
-annoying as anything to see or hear about
-everone has one just like the 98 cuatom.
i think i am going to get the vexor eye or the blind rage i wanted to know what kind of threads they have though??
How is it overpriced? For what you are getting, it is UNDERpriced.
It is annoying, because these things live up to their hype. I doubt you will find a marker that performs like an ION in the 300 and less range.
Everyone has them because they are the real deal. Everyone on my team, except for like two, has timmies, so does that stop me from buying one? Don't think so.
I am telling you, go shoot a high end marker before you make up your mind, they feel soo much better than a blowback, they can't even be compared.
I think they have spyder barrel threads.
jdolla
06-04-2005, 07:34 AM
The price difference isn't much. The Blind Rage is 260 on xpaintball.com, and the Ion is probably around 285, cuz that's what everyone is selling it for. With that kind of a price difference, I'd go with the Ion.
BoneDaddy68
06-04-2005, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by clown_13_2001
Going to a higher end marker, such as one that is electro-pneumatic, isn't just for getting 20 more shots out of your tank. I doubt you have even shot a high end marker, much less that blind rage. You probably just saw it one day and was all like "AHH I HAVE MY ION FIGHTER NOW!!1 NO ONE CAN STOP MEE!!!12#@!42"
And cool, I don't think the thread starter has posted, except when he said the ion was too expensive. ;)
notice how i never said once that i hated or disliked the ION i just think its overpriced, if you're goin to make the body plastic(not cheap plastic, but its still plastic) and save some $ you might as well used use that saved $ to put on a drop or a clamping feedneck or an LCD. Tordx doesn't even have the $ for it anyway and if he did i'd reccommend the ION BUT HE DOESNT so why are we even arguing about it!?
and FYI for clown my frontman has an ION and ive used his gun at least 5 times, i HAVE used a blind rage and am happy to say it kiks for the price! my banana thrusts agrily at you. :banana:
the BR is $240 online
coolrazer
06-04-2005, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
the BR is $240 online
:dodgy:
So you mean to tell me he can't save up 45 more dollars and buy an Ion, which is in another league than all the other guns he wants? Please, stop using the polymer shell as a crutch. The gun isn't made of plastic. The outer shell is made out of polymer. What does this do you ask? It protects the body tube just as well as an aluminum body and makes the gun a little lighter. You don't like the polymer shell you say? Well guess what! They have aluminum body shells avaliable for purchase now! Imagine that!
BoneDaddy68
06-04-2005, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by coolrazer
:dodgy:
So you mean to tell me he can't save up 45 more dollars and buy an Ion, which is in another league than all the other guns he wants? Please, stop using the polymer shell as a crutch. The gun isn't made of plastic. The outer shell is made out of polymer. What does this do you ask? It protects the body tube just as well as an aluminum body and makes the gun a little lighter. You don't like the polymer shell you say? Well guess what! They have aluminum body shells avaliable for purchase now! Imagine that!
actually he cant save 45, in fact hes on my lax team and lives 5 minutes from me. and the fact that aluminum bodies are available doesnt mean they come that way out of the box, if he had the cash i'd probably recommend it, but he doesn't.
coolrazer
06-04-2005, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by coolrazer
They have aluminum body shells avaliable for purchase now!
Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
and the fact that aluminum bodies are available doesnt mean they come that way out of the box
Who said anything about aluminum bodies coming stock out of the box. You can get an Ion, throw 300 bucks worth of upgrades into it, and have something comparable to a shocker, freestyle, timmy, or other high ends. And you only payed 600 bucks for it. What's to complain about?
BoneDaddy68
06-04-2005, 08:22 AM
but he doesn't have the $. Tordx if you get that extra $50 that you'll need for the ION go for it, but if you don't get the rage. happy now?
tordx77
06-04-2005, 09:30 AM
i dont know...
how do you even clean the gun?? what if the bolt gets jammed??
MAYBE....
tordx77
06-04-2005, 09:38 AM
actually i can save up $45 vanilla thunder- noodles
coolrazer
06-04-2005, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by tordx77
i dont know...
how do you even clean the gun?? what if the bolt gets jammed??
MAYBE....
On what the Ion? If you're talking about the Ion you really won't need to get to the bolt unless you are just cleaning it or greasing it. You have to take the entire gun apart to get to it though. It has eyes though so you wouldn't have a jammed bolt.
clown_13_2001
06-04-2005, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
but he doesn't have the $. Tordx if you get that extra $50 that you'll need for the ION go for it, but if you don't get the rage. happy now?
If you are dropping >200 for a marker, you will have an extra 50.
And the ION bolt won't jam as much, because it will pinch a ball before it will chop it, and because it has eyes.
BoneDaddy68
06-04-2005, 03:34 PM
yea, with eyes you wont have to worry about jamming like with ur imagine. especially with the ION which rarely chops with the eye off.
tordx77
06-04-2005, 05:04 PM
LOL..... very funny............. im not laughing
coolrazer
06-04-2005, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
yea, with eyes you wont have to worry about jamming like with ur imagine. especially with the ION which rarely chops with the eye off.
What kind of idiot uses a gun that has eyes with the eyes off. Oh wait..bonedaddy....
four_wheelerer
06-04-2005, 06:33 PM
this guy doesnt want to buy an ion he made this thread because he cant deciede which gun to get out of the vexor eye piranah evo torid x and blind rage not the ion he doest say is there any other gun that would be better he just says which out of these four so stop with the ion
coolrazer
06-04-2005, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by tordx77
actually i can save up $45
:P
BoneDaddy68
06-05-2005, 11:40 AM
wow coolrazer ur getting way too heated for a paintball forum. if i dont like the ion as much as the BR thats fine but for some reason u take it so seriously that u start fights with me. ur a big man considering ur not saying that to my face. and im not dumb enough to use a gun with eyes witht the eyes off i was just saying even with the eyes off it wouldnt jam or chop much. that's all im gunna say cuz obviously coolrazer doesnt want a debate he wants a fight.
BoneDaddy68
06-05-2005, 11:42 AM
well i guess this is the last thing ill say
Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
but he doesn't have the $. Tordx if you get that extra $50 that you'll need for the ION go for it, but if you don't get the rage. happy now?
:laugh:
Hmmm Donut
06-05-2005, 12:49 PM
Ion is the best choice.
Out of the ones listed..........Evo hands down.
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