CO2 expolsion

[kevkid]

i was just wondering if anyone else heard about the kid whose CO2 tank expolded in his room?
i heard the storie from a relative a wanted more info
it blow a hole in his roof and the parents thought the house was being bombed
:|
but the kid survived the blast

[GranDream]

I'm gonna call shens on that one.

[bdaniel08]

Try doing a search on different forums to prove it's credibility.

I second gran on shens.

[wordf0o]

I heard of the c02 bottle flying off and killing someone, but not exploding.

[bobcool]

Deaths Bring CPSC Paintball Gun Warning

C02 canisters become deadly projectiles
Based on its investigation of two deaths caused by carbon dioxide (CO2) canisters flying off paintball guns, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) is issuing a new warning. Paintball gun users should be advised that the brass or nickel-plated valve that connects directly to the canister must not be unscrewed from the canister when removing the canister assembly from a paintball gun. This valve must stay secured and rotate with the CO2 canister.

In both of the deaths investigated by CPSC, the brass valve unscrewed from the canister, turning the pressurized canister into a deadly projectile. In June 2003, a 15-year-old boy died after being struck in the head by a paintball CO2 canister as he was removing the canister from the gun. In February 2004, a female bystander was killed by a CO2 canister that was expelled as someone else was removing the canister from a paintball gun.

While these investigations are not complete, CPSC is issuing this new safety warning to help people avoid the hazard.

"We are very concerned about the recent deaths associated with paintball gun canisters," said CPSC Chairman Hal Stratton. "We are actively investigating these cases. Even though our investigation is not complete, we believe it is urgent to provide this new safety message about the valve detaching from the canister while unscrewing it from the paintball gun."

CPSC also recommends that people make sure that any modifications to the paintball gun or the CO2 canister are done properly. For example, installing anti-siphon tubes involves removing and re-installing the canister valve. It is critical that the valve be re-installed with the appropriate adhesive and the proper torque.
:D

[wordf0o]

It didn't explode, the bottle flew off.

[amzng_spyderman]

shens. unless the kid lives in a cardboard box. a very flimsy cardboard box.

[Paintballshurt]

Originally posted by amzng_spyderman
shens. unless the kid lives in a cardboard box. a very flimsy cardboard box.

Why, spydey? Why do you always have to pick on me? Leave my underprivileged family alone!


:dodgy:

Shens

[PaintBaller1818]

shens=?

[^Arbiter171^]

shens=shenanigans

[Lopez17]

An explosion is caused by some form of ignition or combustion from either fuel or fumes coming into contact with a spark or compression. CO2 is a liquid that heats up and expands into a gas. When a CO2 tank "explodes" it's really just exerting more pressure than the tank can handle and it either blows the burst disk or blows the valve off. There's no true explosion here.

[four_wheelerer]

Originally posted by Lopez17
An explosion is caused by some form of ignition or combustion from either fuel or fumes coming into contact with a spark or compression. CO2 is a liquid that heats up and expands into a gas. When a CO2 tank "explodes" it's really just exerting more pressure than the tank can handle and it either blows the burst disk or blows the valve off. There's no true explosion here.

if you shot a co2 tank with a rifle or something it would blow up because all the co2 would try to rush out that hole and it would blow the tank apart right

[kevkid]

yea i thought there was somthing fishy about the story

but maybe the tank was over filled or somthin and his room got hot enough to expand the CO2 enough to blow

[Defiler]

My friend said that he saw a CO2 tank get over filled. The burst disc shot off and the dude who was filling it got scared or something and droped it, making it explode. It was only a 9 oz. I still don't know if it really happened or not, but it would be cool to watch.

[Crede777]

Usually in that case, the rupture disc takes over. There might be some spewing of CO2, but the bottle would not blow apart. CO2 tanks are specifically designed not to fragment.

[apunkjunkie]

If you overfill a tank the burst disk will go and at very least you may freeze your hands if you don't let go of it. At most you'll have yourself a nice little projectile that could kill people.

[BoneDaddy68]

yeah my friend got his co2 filled a Dicks (big mistake) when he took it off the valve half unscrewed and the burst disk came off. the canister spun around for like 10 minutes and was covered in ice when it finally stopped.

[spydadude]

Originally posted by BoneDaddy68
yeah my friend got his co2 filled a Dicks (big mistake) when he took it off the valve half unscrewed and the burst disk came off. the canister spun around for like 10 minutes and was covered in ice when it finally stopped.

Same thing happened to my friend, lol. also, the story is a complete lie. My burst disc exploded in my bag, and it just made dry ice. Does anybody know where I can get it replaced?:(

[bdaniel08]

Well, what do you know. You were right all along. By the way, bobcool, those tanks were set off by the valve not being properly sealed, not "exploding."

Thursday, June 16, 2005

By HEATHER KAYS
HERALD NEWS



ELMWOOD PARK - They knew it was a risky hobby, but never expected it could be dangerous.

When Ryan Rodriguez, 18, and Michael Balistrieri, 15, decided to play paintball, they got all the protective equipment available.


But as the teens sat in Ryan's bedroom on June 6 cleaning and loading his paintball gun, one of the carbon dioxide tanks he had just taken to ABC Paintball in Paramus to be filled exploded. The tank, which holds the compressed gas used to propel the paintballs, was sitting an arm's length away from Ryan and Michael.

"Here we're worried about black-and-blues from the paintballs, and then this happens," said Ryan's mother, Linda Rodriguez.

Part of the room's door frame was blown off, pieces of metal stuck in the ceiling, and there was a giant hole in the wall near where the tank was sitting. The impact was so forceful that a piece of the tank flew down the stairs and ricocheted into the floor below. Furniture was broken into pieces and screws from around the room came out of the Sheetrock.

Linda Rodriguez ran upstairs screaming and frantically searched the boys for injuries.

"It was so loud that it sounded like a bomb went off," said Rodriguez. "They were white as ghosts and just sat there with these stunned looks on their faces."

Meanwhile, a block and a half away on Willow Street, Michael's mother, Sandy Balistrieri, was getting paperwork from her car when she heard the explosion. Terrified, she called Rodriguez's house to check on her son.

After a thorough examination of the startled teens, Rodriguez realized Ryan and Michel had not been hurt.

Ryan and Michael said they had severe headaches and ringing in their ears for days after the explosion.

Michael has had trouble sleeping since the incident and can't stop thinking about what happened.

"I try to forget it," he said. "But I just can't. After I heard the explosion, I thought I was going to die that day."

Ryan and Michael have pledged never to play paintball.

"This thing went off like a grenade," said Police Chief Don Ingrasselino. "There are a lot of parents out there buying these things for their kids and they need to know how dangerous they are."

[nacnac58]

Originally posted by bdaniel08
Well, what do you know. You were right all along. By the way, bobcool, those tanks were set off by the valve not being properly sealed, not "exploding."

Thursday, June 16, 2005

By HEATHER KAYS
HERALD NEWS



ELMWOOD PARK - They knew it was a risky hobby, but never expected it could be dangerous.

When Ryan Rodriguez, 18, and Michael Balistrieri, 15, decided to play paintball, they got all the protective equipment available.


But as the teens sat in Ryan's bedroom on June 6 cleaning and loading his paintball gun, one of the carbon dioxide tanks he had just taken to ABC Paintball in Paramus to be filled exploded. The tank, which holds the compressed gas used to propel the paintballs, was sitting an arm's length away from Ryan and Michael.

"Here we're worried about black-and-blues from the paintballs, and then this happens," said Ryan's mother, Linda Rodriguez.

Part of the room's door frame was blown off, pieces of metal stuck in the ceiling, and there was a giant hole in the wall near where the tank was sitting. The impact was so forceful that a piece of the tank flew down the stairs and ricocheted into the floor below. Furniture was broken into pieces and screws from around the room came out of the Sheetrock.

Linda Rodriguez ran upstairs screaming and frantically searched the boys for injuries.

"It was so loud that it sounded like a bomb went off," said Rodriguez. "They were white as ghosts and just sat there with these stunned looks on their faces."

Meanwhile, a block and a half away on Willow Street, Michael's mother, Sandy Balistrieri, was getting paperwork from her car when she heard the explosion. Terrified, she called Rodriguez's house to check on her son.

After a thorough examination of the startled teens, Rodriguez realized Ryan and Michel had not been hurt.

Ryan and Michael said they had severe headaches and ringing in their ears for days after the explosion.

Michael has had trouble sleeping since the incident and can't stop thinking about what happened.

"I try to forget it," he said. "But I just can't. After I heard the explosion, I thought I was going to die that day."

Ryan and Michael have pledged never to play paintball.

"This thing went off like a grenade," said Police Chief Don Ingrasselino. "There are a lot of parents out there buying these things for their kids and they need to know how dangerous they are."

wow, thats pretty crazy!!

(maybe they were really lighting off M-1000's and didnt want to get caught so they said it was the tank,lol, jk!)

[ibanez168]

I don't get the article. Don't all tanks come with burst discs? how could it possibly "explode" like this? What a stupid vague article.

[Lopez17]

What likely happened is that the valve was loose due to the kids experimenting or messing around or just being careless and didn't take the appropriate precautions as a result. There's a bit of this story that's more than a little awry and enhanced for dramatic effect.

[Jaster]

Originally posted by four_wheelerer
if you shot a co2 tank with a rifle or something it would blow up because all the co2 would try to rush out that hole and it would blow the tank apart right

That's a rupture or a burst not an explosion. You'd be punching a hole into something and the force of the escaping air could cause more damage to the tank. An explosion is cause by something with a charge, like a gas or gunpowder.

I've heard stories of tanks launching through roofs/walls. If it will cave in someones face and kill them, you think it won't go through 1/2" sheetrock? I watched a scuba tank blow across and olympic size pool and through a cinderbrick wall and computer monitor and through the next cinderblock wall.

[four_wheelerer]

Originally posted by Jaster


That's a rupture or a burst not an explosion. You'd be punching a hole into something and the force of the escaping air could cause more damage to the tank.

thats what i meant by "blow up"

[Crede777]

Yeah but most CO2 tanks are designed not to fragment like grenades. They mostly just projectile like a missle, they don't blow apart into shrapnel.

[kevkid]

maybe it was an older tank

like an old brass eagle

i knew i was right:P
:flagrun:

[bdaniel08]

ASDHFADFALJAKS!!!!!!!!!!

http://steveabramo.com/mcb/videos.htm

:eek4:....................

http://img159.echo.cx/img159/9788/tankexplode5mr.jpg

Yeah.... That's no valve flying off.....

[Omegaboy13]

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file=index&topic_id=21&page_id=390#blownhpa.jpg

[Pman09]

When my friend was very new to paintball he went Halo style with his co2 tank and smashed a grasshopper on a tree by hitting it with his tank. They tank started leaking and he thought it was loose so he screwed it back on but it didnt do anything by that time it shot off and exploded behind him and left frost covering his arm. I'm pretty sure that the tank body came loose from the valve and shot off....what a retard

[Stupified]

Originally posted by Jaster


If it will cave in someones face and kill them

Thank you Jaster, I know have that image stuck in my head :(

[BoneDaddy68]

Originally posted by spydadude


Same thing happened to my friend, lol. also, the story is a complete lie. My burst disc exploded in my bag, and it just made dry ice. Does anybody know where I can get it replaced?:(

when i say ice, i didnt mean actual layers of ice, in fact thats impossible with co2. just really cold, really thick frost.

[senghing27]

I was at dunhams with my friend getting his tank filled, and the guy dropped a 20 oz and the rupture disc went off, and he got a new tank. Scared the crap out of the worker tho.

[wordf0o]

The cop says that we shouldn't have c02 tanks inside the house...What a terrible idea. The chances of that happening are slim and its the only time I have ever heard of c02 actually exploding. Its like not riding on airplanes because they occasionally crash.

[Jeezer]

When I used CO2, I slid too hard and ruptured my tank, the thing kinda went boom and the force tore off half my face and severed my arm.

Now i wear my gear 24/7 to hide my hideous dismembered face and my bare bionic arm.

But I do get a fat disable check from the gov. :tup:

[Deceased_Sniper]

Originally posted by Jeezer
When I used CO2, I slid too hard and ruptured my tank, the thing kinda went boom and the force tore off half my face and severed my arm.

Now i wear my gear 24/7 to hide my hideous dismembered face and my bare bionic arm.

But I do get a fat disable check from the gov. :tup:

I thought I was the only one.

The government hasn't sent me a cheque yet though, lousy Canadian governement :rolleyes:

[kevkid]

Ha

Canada

[ibanez168]

I love how the idiots vow to never play paintball again but somehow they are able to muster the strength to shoot their guns in the backyard without facial protection then show the cameras how the CO2 tanks they are so afraid of work.

Also, there has to be a reason the tank exploded. It would have exploded right after filling if the only explanation was overfilling. It made it all the way back to their house... where it was fine until it exploded? There had to be a catalyst. I agree with some others that the kids were probably playing with it somehow.

This is probably really dumb cause i have no familiarity whatsoever with HPA, but is it possible to fill a CO2 canister with HPA?

[wordf0o]

Originally posted by Jeezer
When I used CO2, I slid too hard and ruptured my tank, the thing kinda went boom and the force tore off half my face and severed my arm.

Now i wear my gear 24/7 to hide my hideous dismembered face and my bare bionic arm.

But I do get a fat disable check from the gov. :tup:

A combo between the Phantom from Phantom of the Opera and Jet from Cowboy bebop. Cool.

[propaintist]

go to pbstar.com for the whole story!

[Omegaboy13]

Originally posted by propaintist
go to pbstar.com for the whole story!


I already posted that, buuuuuut noooooooooo don't listen to me.

[senghing27]

I smell something fishy, don't you??

[Lopez17]

Same here. The laws of physics say that the pressure would try and "escape" through the weakest point on/in the tank. The reg/valve is designed to be that point, hence the burst disk on there. Now...even if the marker got dented or suffered a leak near the bottom, the pressure from that tank would put a hole in it...not peel STEEL away in a circular pattern (which you could only likely do with tools) and detach the entire bottom portion of the tank. Furthermore the description of what happened (that the tank blew up in the room, rocketed downstairs and hit a bunch of other stuff) is not in alignment with what could have possibly happened after seeing this tank. The gas would have escaped propelling the tank sideways likely creating a corkscrew effect for a brief time as the gas/liquid would have escaped quickly. To get a similar effect, shake up a can of coca cola. Put it on a ledge, and shoot with a BB gun from a distance. The small hole will cause it to move around with more force. Shake up a can and throw very hard from a high height. The can will split open, releasing it's energy quickly and will likely spin for a second or two and isn't likely to be propelled far. Same with this tank. This is very suspect. I'd love to see their house and know what those kids were really doing.

[senghing27]

They were probably messing with the valve and hitting the tank with the hammer. Also i was reading that it had shards of metal in the ceiling, if in the ceiling, how did it make it downstairs?? It makes no sense. Reminds me of the physics of the mysterious spit from Seinfield

[Omegaboy13]

Yeah it seemes like there were a lot of holes in the story.

[nacnac58]

true, many parts of this story just dont add up to me........


and you know those kids are probably bragging to their friends right now: "Oh yeah, well we got those guys at PBR to write 3 pages about us, we're teh l33t!!!"

[G 2]

well what i don't get is...well first off i know that tanks aren't supposed to blow up. But the burst disc is. Now why do manufactures make it so that sometimes the co2 bottle will fly out at the valve area, propelling it very far? Isn't that not safe? From my understanding that can be just as dangerous as the bottle exploding if it hits someone with that force.

[ibanez168]

Originally posted by G 2
well what i don't get is...well first off i know that tanks aren't supposed to blow up. But the burst disc is. Now why do manufactures make it so that sometimes the co2 bottle will fly out at the valve area, propelling it very far? Isn't that not safe? From my understanding that can be just as dangerous as the bottle exploding if it hits someone with that force.

It only comes out fast when the valve is defective or has been played with, and the whole valve body detaches from the rest of the CO2 bottle(black part). Its supposed to come out slowly and spin in circles on the ground. I've seen it happen.

[punk_rocker543]

IMO this story is just a ploy to do as that reporter just said "stop the fad of paintball", this so called "fad" is obviously more popular than scooters or furbies because its gonna be HUGE someday.

[kevkid]

thats what they said about scooters and furbies

[punk_rocker543]

true. :|

[ibanez168]

scooters and furbies give no adrenaline rush.. and take no skill or thought to operate, and thus are not fun.

[BoneDaddy68]

based on that bs story heres how i think it all went down. these guys go out and get their co2 filled. they come home and decide "Hey lets hit this co2 tank with a sledge hammer!" So they hit the thing until it explodes. pieces fly up into the ceiling. then one of them picks up the wild co2 canister, kicks it through the floor (with his super strong robot leg) and starts laughing. then he picks his nose (with his super strong robot finger) and then he starts watching some Spongebob for the rest of the night.

[Defiler]

How can it magically blow up when it was just sitting on the floor? If it was over-filled, it would of blown up as it was getting filled. My guess is they probally threw the tank to the floor instead of placing it. Either that or they decided to shoot their tank with frozen paintballs to see what would happen.

[darktrooper5]

I hate filling CO2 and the tanks period

[Stupified]

Originally posted by Defiler
How can it magically blow up when it was just sitting on the floor? If it was over-filled, it would of blown up as it was getting filled.

Not necessarily, if the tank got over filled then the pressure might not be enough for the tank to burst instantly, but over time the tank could weaken to the point of structural failure, and then it bursts.

I could be wrong, so correct me if I am

[ibanez168]

The pressure wouldn't just randomly increase... there would be no build up of pressure unless the temperature increased. Gas molecules move randomly.. the damage on the bottle showed one side of the tank was ruptured, it would be more logical if the tank shattered into fragments as the pressure would be distributed equally along the interior walls of the tank, not concentrated on one side. Def looks like someone smacked it with a hammer.

[Defiler]

It looks as if something punctured it. If it did explode from being over filled, it would probally fragment into bits. If you punched a hole in it, it would most likely "rip" the tank, like in the pictures shown. I think some people got bored and decided to play with a CO2 tank to see what happens when you subject it to different methods of abuse.

[Ring31]

i saw a guy that over filled his 9oz and it didnt have a working blowoff vale on it.. he sat it on the roof of his car on a hot day at a game...

we were all sitting around when we hear... BOOM!!!!

it dented in hit roof and the tank looked like a banana

DOH!

[Stupified]

Originally posted by Ring31
i saw a guy that over filled his 9oz and it didnt have a working blowoff vale on it.. he sat it on the roof of his car on a hot day at a game...

we were all sitting around when we hear... BOOM!!!!

it dented in hit roof and the tank looked like a banana

DOH!

See it did not burst right away.

[Bellicose]

IF it is hot, then the gas in the co2 tank will expand, thus creating more stress on the tank. What I find funny is that the pic in hte article is of a hpa tank, and the story is about a co2 tank. I know they are showing it to give you an idea of what an expoloded tank might look like, but they got the gas completely wrong.

[kevkid]

i think they were trying to show what a HPA tank looks like when it explodes, i mean how it doesnt shrapnel

but it still looks pretty violent to me

EDIT: after lookin at the cbs video again, i realized that the tank is kind of off... it kinda does look like a propane tank or an asedaline(sp?) torch and the stairs to the house are around like 2 corners from the room where it blew up, so i dont thin that a piece of shrapnel could have gone around two corners to get down stairs to damage furnature down there

[Defiler]

Guess I am lucky then. I once left my tank attached to my gun in direct sunlight for about 15 minutes. This was not normal sunlight either, it was incredibly freaking hot.

[BoneDaddy68]

when i had my bone daddy rg i was playing and left it out in 85 degree heat for 10 minutes and it blew the bottom cap off the regulator.

[Patrick4357]

I left my 20 OZ on my Imagine 2k4 out in the sun for about 2 minutes. Wasn't hot, just about 60-75F. That pissed me off, but I did just fill it up, so ya, I guess tha could of been the problem.

[warny]

i was watching the video on the second page should they really have turned that little knob thingon the tank like that

[warny]

Originally posted by ibanez168
scooters and furbies give no adrenaline rush.. and take no skill or thought to operate, and thus are not fun.

i dont agree you cant be a dumb*** and ride a scooter my friend got a scooter and tried to ride down her dirveway andtried to jump a brick and broke her legs it was the funniest thing i had ever seen:laugh:

[kevkid]

Originally posted by warny


i dont agree you cant be a dumb*** and ride a scooter my friend got a scooter and tried to ride down her dirveway andtried to jump a brick and broke her legs it was the funniest thing i had ever seen:laugh:

wow how evil are you...

[warny]

lol normally i wouldnt laugh but she thought she was reeally cool