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boardbreaker05
06-17-2005, 09:16 AM
is it really 36 bps or what.

cutomcocker1
06-17-2005, 12:59 PM
i'm not sure what your talking about but it sounds like the max bushy cycling capability...

can you legaly pull or get a hopper to feed that fast? no

PaintBaller1818
06-17-2005, 02:24 PM
http://www.tagsportz.com/product_info.php?products_id=106
claims 38 bps

lotus_esprit5
06-17-2005, 02:32 PM
the b2k4's board is capped at 36cps. However the gun's speed is limited by the solenoid, which "only" cycles in the high 20's. So the gun's board is actually capped a bit higher than the gun is mechanically capable of firing.

PaintBaller1818
06-17-2005, 03:48 PM
if you get a new noid though you could shoot faster, nto sure what the 4 ways are capped at.

jakeiscared
06-17-2005, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by PaintBaller1818
if you get a new noid though you could shoot faster, nto sure what the 4 ways are capped at.

Were talking about 4 ways. BKO has a 3 way or 2 way whichever it is.

PaintBaller1818
06-17-2005, 05:25 PM
Whoops. Crap. I feel dumb. I was thinking BKO, because I was contemplating getting a new noid for my gun.

cutomcocker1
06-17-2005, 05:58 PM
thats pretty darn slow for a board. the WAS board can cycle like 140 times a sec....

boardbreaker05
06-18-2005, 06:25 AM
o my god thats insane what a waist of paint.

Paintball manic
06-18-2005, 09:39 AM
Didn't we go over that nobody can even get close to that? Most people can get an average of 10-15 bps constantly.. 16-17 bursts..

lotus_esprit5
06-18-2005, 12:05 PM
^you're right, but I think we're talking about how many cycles per second the gun can do, not how many balls per second his fingers and hopper can do. different things man.

PaintBaller1818
06-18-2005, 12:12 PM
The real limiting factor hee is the noid. If you got a cheater board, you could outshoot the board, if the solenoid would let you.

Paintball manic
06-18-2005, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by boardbreaker05
o my god thats insane what a waist of paint.

Lotus... here he mentioned paint, and then it would be bps.

lotus_esprit5
06-18-2005, 08:06 PM
Lotus... here he mentioned paint, and then it would be bps. lol yeah he did. But I hope he wasnt seriously insinuating anyone could pull 140bps or that any gun could go that fast. :laugh:

ShootPaint
06-18-2005, 11:27 PM
Originally posted by cutomcocker1
thats pretty darn slow for a board. the WAS board can cycle like 140 times a sec....

The cycle time is limited by two basic things. The dwell time set for the noid to be on and rise and fall time of the output transitor. There are more factors that figure into this but these are the two main ones.

Most control boards are capable of sampling in the millions of times per second. This basically leaves the dwell setting as a form of a cap.

Just because someone says a board isnt capped is BS. Every board out there is capped due to the dwell of the noid. There are only so many milli-seconds per second:) I believe those number a 1000.

Spyderlyfe
06-23-2005, 06:02 PM
does anyone know how fast the gun could mechanically be capped at with a new noid, and a few other ups

spyder freek
06-24-2005, 04:08 AM
a while back i saw a vid where a guy got 34 out of it....it was a high flow/modded noid i think.....there was a lot of stuff. higher than that would probably be hard.

Do you need faster than say 18 anyways?

i have ramping to 15, (limited to 10is because of bb and my hopper) and it does me fine...i can lane some what...could be better, but it gets the job done at 10.

Spyderlyfe
06-24-2005, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by spyder freek
a while back i saw a vid where a guy got 34 out of it....it was a high flow/modded noid i think.....there was a lot of stuff. higher than that would probably be hard.

Do you need faster than say 18 anyways?

I know that not many people would need more than 18bps, but its just cool to know your gun can go high 20's or low 30's (damb 34!? Man thats fast for a bushy :eyepop: ) It's also fun to show off:D

I'm_Addicted
06-24-2005, 10:30 AM
The b2k4 was advertised as being able to cycle at 36 cps. Now wiether you can get it going that fast or not, depends on how much Red Bull you drink before you try:P :crazy:

Spyderlyfe
06-24-2005, 12:53 PM
nice sig I'm_addicted......:irked: jk lol

I'm_Addicted
06-25-2005, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Spyderlyfe
nice sig I'm_addicted......:irked: jk lol

I'm sorry, I just couldnt help but put it in my sig, I'll give credit were it's deserved though:P

Spyderlyfe
06-25-2005, 06:29 PM
^nah, its all cool, I dont care if you take it I was jk:)