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Ebonclaw
01-16-2002, 08:26 AM
This post is for new Spyder/similar model users only!

Alrightythen. You've bought your gun. I'll assume you got a Spyder or similar model because the post says so. You're probably wondering "what the heck does this do?". Well, first things first. You need to get to know your gun and its parts. More importantly, before yo go out to shoot it, it may need some oil. Hope you got some! If you don't, sorry, go run out and buy some RIGHT now before you go shooting your brand new gun. (petroleum based oil breaks down o-rings. Don't use it. I prefer Gold Cup on my Shutter).
Get yourself an old shop towel and follow me! You have a gun to oil!
(By the way, make sure there is NO air or paint in the gun if you've already gone out and shot it ya moron. ALWAYS disconnect air and paint before taking apart a gun.)

Lay the gun down on the towel, not the carpet. Now then, you've likely got a quick strip pin. It's that shiny metal (or black or other color in some cases) thing that pokes through the back top of your gun. It looks like a little knob, except it goes through the left side of the body and comes out the right. There it is. Now, remove the little paper-clip-like retainer that it has on the otherside through the little hole in the quick strip pin. DON'T remove the pin yet! Now, you see the little round thing on the back? The velocity adjuster on the tail of your gun? Press your thumb against it and gently remove the pin. If you don't put your thumb against it it'll go flying as it's under spring pressure. Now, the thingy in the top tube and all the stuff in the bottom tube are going to slide out the back, including a spring. Slide them out onto the towel gently in the order they came out in and don't touch! The first time I did this I got all the parts mixed up cuz I moved them around on the towel and it took me a little bit and I didn't know if I was missing something or what. Now, take a look. You see the big long thing that came out the top? With the o-rings around it? That's the bolt. It goes in the top tube. In the bottom tube, the following things came out. The shiny round thing that came out first? That's the velocity adjuster. It adjusts velocity. Duh. Next, there's a little plastic long thingy that is usually (always?) black. It's about as long as your little finger and it goes inside the spring with the flat round head sticking out the back of the spring, pressed agaist (and inside) the velo adjuster. This is called the spring guide. Now, on the spring there's what appears to be a really big o-ring. A really big, fat o-ring. This is the striker buffer (striker and hammer are interchangable terms). Finally, along with your bolt, you might have noticed it was plugged into a short, fat, heavy black thing with an o-ring around it. This is your hammer. It's heavy because it's made of steel, that's why. Needless to say, it will rust if you go play in the rain and don't oil it.
Now, if you haven't done so already, disconnect the bolt from the hammer (pulls right apart, actually, it just falls apart). Once again, the bolt is the big long thing and the hammer (striker) is the short fat heavy one. Now, drop a drop of oil around both o-rings (or just 1 o-ring if that's the case). Spread a little bit of oil around the fattest parts of the bolt (the parts that touch the insdie of the gun). There. Your bolt is now oiled. Now, spread a drop or two of oil on the hammer's o-ring. Now coat the hammer with a thin coat of oil. Doesn't take much.....there. Now put the bolt and the hammer back together like you found them and slide the hammer and the bolt in (with the face first and the part where you cock last, and the hammer's head with the little nub first and the hole in the back to the rear. Bolt in top tube, hammer in bottom)together till they stop. It probably didn't go in al the way did it? Don't worry. Now, gently pull the trigger as you push the bolt and hammer the rest of the way. It'll "click" and slide in. Good. Now then, you have the spring, spring guide, striker buffer, velocity adjuster and maybe two itty bitty flat metal discs (at least my Shutter did. I lost them though and seem to be getting along fine without the). The flat metal discs go inside the velocity adjuster. Now, put the striker buffer (big fat o-ring) around the spring and slide the spring and striker buffer in together. Make sure that the spring goes inside the little hole in the hammer. You can slide the hammer and bolt out a little bit if you need to to get it right, and slide it back in by pulling the trigger like I said. The two discs go in the velo adjuster and the plastic spring guide goes right inside the spring, with the round flat end going neatly against the two discs, or simply inside the velo adjuster if you've lost them already. The velo adjuster will stick out the back. Now, this is the tricky part because your spring is pushing against everything. You have to slide the little groove in the velocity adjuster till you make a perfect round hole where you quick strip pin goes. Put the pin in and the little clip back on. Good! You've oiled your gun! To oil the valve, take off your Low Pressure chamber (that round thingy under the barrel if you have one) and drop a drop or two of oil in the little hole in the gun, not the low pressure chamber. Screw the chamber back on. If you don't have a regulator, you can work a little more oil through the gun by droppong a drop or two in that little hole where you screw your CO2 tank in. If you DO have a regulator, DON'T do this. It puts the oil under about 850 lbs of pressure all at once when you screw the tank on and basically works like a little combustion engine. Don't put oil in your ASA unless you don't have a regulator. Shutters have regulators for instance.

Good! You're done!
Chapter 2 will be the fun one. Actually shooting your new toy!

carrim
01-16-2002, 12:10 PM
For oiling, couldn't you just put 4-5 drops on the ASA, attach the power source and fire about 10 times? Without balls of course. This would send the oil through the entire gun.

Paint Splatter
01-16-2002, 02:03 PM
Wow, the second guy's post sounds like a lot less work to me.

UTLadiesMan
01-16-2002, 02:32 PM
It may be less work, but you will hurt your marker. For a good oil, you really do need to oil the striker, bolt, and all of their o-rings, as well as the cup seal. Putting oil in the ASA is the best way to oil the cup seal, but it won't get into the bolt or striker very well. This prevents your gun from operating smoothly and will damage your bolt and striker, as well as be much more likely to chop paint. Love your gun and it will love you.

Ebonclaw
01-17-2002, 11:15 AM
UT hit it right on. Get a delrin bolt though, and you won't have to worry about oiling your bolt or its o-rings. Delrin is self-lubricating and doesn't have o-rings!

UTLadiesMan
01-17-2002, 12:54 PM
But you would still need to occasionally disassemble it and oil the striker. Or I guess you could do a half-assed job and oil it through the cocking window if you have a side cocking marker.

Other than that though, delrin is the wave of the future.

Friday
01-22-2002, 04:17 PM
Don't put oil in your ASA unless you don't have a regulator.

Ack, double negative! I don't mean to pick on your grammar but I found this confusing at first. :) You mean don't put oil in your ASA if you have a regulator? Yeah, I think that's what you mean.

But what if you do have a regulator? Should I keep my regulator oiled too? I have a Stabilizer w/ gauge and I'm wondering how I can oil my gun. I hear that you shouldn't run oil through the reg with the gauge on because it'll mess up the gauge. But for now I think I'll oil my gun the meticulous way. :)

Ebonclaw
01-23-2002, 11:16 AM
I wasn't aware regs needed oiling, other than the o-ring where you screw it into your gun. That's ok, but I'm serious, don't put oil in the ASA. The reg will compress the oil (remember, it stops letting air in at some point so you have all that pressure waiting for a little valve to open) and you'll basically get a miniature combustion. It'll blow the reg, and you'll be out $70, but it's not gonna pose any physical danger. But if you do it, you'll know.